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You can find super lube in a tube at Harbor Freight among other places. You want to stay away from petroleum products.
 
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In compare to Molykote 55 is this better?
It seems that Super Lube is also designed for o-rings, so like @Etchase said they will be similar. I suggested Molykote as its easy to purchase in Europe.

This is what I use also. The problem is that it only comes in a giant tube and, because of that, it's expensive. I really wish it came in a "travel size" tube instead of the mega-family tube. Even if I live another 100 years, I'll never use it all at home.
Coffee machine grease comes with very small packages like 5gram if you use it in very small amounts per year. Its silicon based and it has to be neutral for both o-rings and plastics (also food grade). But if you work with automation or as mechanic than even 100g tube goes down quickly.

"Mega-family tube" :ROFLMAO: Good one.
 

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Hello, I want to lubricate some silicone O-rings and I read on the internet that the silicone grease if applied on silicone O-rings or seals can swelling or softening them. Is that true and if yes which grease type is the proper for silicone O-rings or seals lubrication?
Yes, that is true. Molykote 55 is silicone based, and is not compatible with silicone o-rings. The preferred chemistry for silicone 0-rings seems to be PFPE.

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I want to lubricate the new silicone O-rings (I bought silicone O-rings because I beleive are more durable and last longer or I made wrong and I had bought "ordinary" O-rings?) from my desoldering pump. Which type/number would you suggest me to use for this purpose (if anyone knows any other brand of PFPE grease where is available for selling in europe, please post it)?

MOLYKOTE® HP-300 Grease​


MOLYKOTE® HP-670 Grease​


MOLYKOTE® HP-870 Grease​

 

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Very interesting, neat how they spend the time to detail each step of the process rather than just doing some sort of entertainment video. The plant is beautiful and has advanced machinery.
 

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I want to lubricate the new silicone O-rings (I bought silicone O-rings because I beleive are more durable and last longer or I made wrong and I had bought "ordinary" O-rings?) from my desoldering pump. Which type/number would you suggest me to use for this purpose (if anyone knows any other brand of PFPE grease where is available for selling in europe, please post it)?

MOLYKOTE® HP-300 Grease​


MOLYKOTE® HP-670 Grease​


MOLYKOTE® HP-870 Grease​



What part number of MOLYKOTE would you suggest me to apply. Also, if you know another brand of PFPE grease where is available for selling in europe, please post it
 

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What part number of MOLYKOTE would you suggest me to apply. Also, if you know another brand of PFPE grease where is available for selling in europe, please post it
Choose the one that has the most appropriate base oil viscosity (85, 160, or 350 cSt) for your application.


Low viscosity oils generally work better at low temperatures, while greases with a higher base oil viscosity are used more for heavier loads and higher working temperatures. It is also important to consider the speed/revs per minute of the application. Low speed calls for a high viscosity base oil, while low viscosity oils are to be preferred in fast-moving applications.
 

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Choose the one that has the most appropriate base oil viscosity (85, 160, or 350 cSt) for your application.


Many thanks for your reply and for your useful link, but could you suggest me a different PFPE grease brand because the price of these MOLYKOTE greases are very to extremely high (or I am serching on the wrong sites).
 

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Many thanks for your reply and for your useful link, but could you suggest me a different PFPE grease brand because the price of these MOLYKOTE greases are very to extremely high (or I am serching on the wrong sites).
I don't understand. Why can't you find what you want with an online search?

A google search for "PFPE greases" turned up this, and others:

 

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short production video of the new Hazet pliers wrench


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I have used the current version of these.

Although, like most of these designs, they are a variation of the Knipex concept, I actually like the way hazet have designed these. The push button is right under your thumb so I find them more natural to adjust.

But come on Hazet - I expect the grips to be "Hazet Blue", not some generic black! In fact, how about an option with chromed handles (which no other manufacturer offers) so I can use them in really grubby environments! This was an option on Hazet pliers historically!
 

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short production video of the new Hazet pliers wrench

Thank you, that was a good watch. Especially for those of us who watched the entire looooong Knipex video you recently posted. :)

It's interesting that Hazet is going with the "remote" button for adjustment. I have the Klein version of the Knipex Plierswrench which has a similar feature. And I have to say that although the Knipex is the better tool, the "remote" feature on the Klein is very nice; very simple to adjust where the Knipex is a bit fiddly sometimes. Does anyone have the Hazet to comment on it's ergonomics?
 

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I find the Knipex too difficult to use. I like the Klein remote button, but wish it was a finer made tool. My favorite is the made in France Craftsman with the ratcheting size adjust. Best of all worlds. The Hazet looks interesting too. Their modern production facility has allowed them to survive. Comparing this video to the ideal SK and Western Forge equipment and the Vaughan factory, it seems pretty easy to understand why they couldn’t compete. Years of inadequate investment.
 
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But come on Hazet - I expect the grips to be "Hazet Blue", not some generic black! In fact, how about an option with chromed handles (which no other manufacturer offers) so I can use them in really grubby environments! This was an option on Hazet pliers historically!
The features you mentioned are already built in .... If you remove the black grips there should be a blue grip underneath and if you remove the blue one you have your chromed handles ;) :)
 
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Really cool video! Based on it I think I like the remote lever design for the adjustment. This is where most copies try to improve on the knipex, but some are rather weird.
 

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Hi,

I bought my first micrometer and I have two questions if you please.

My first question is at pictures 1 & 2 where I am measuring an A4/80gr paper sheet the thimble marks (0,01mm each mark) doesn’t align with the index line of the sleeve, so what is the right measurement; 0,10mm or 0,11mm?

My second query is about a figure (picture 3) on the micrometer’s manual (at the red box); what does this figure means/says? Maybe it is related for my first question?
 

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Looks well made. I have the Knipex 250mm version but am a bit wary of Hazet's cosmetic finishing. This is my new 14mm LG wrench. Is this acceptable in Germany Monte?
I don't have much Hazet, but can confirm some other European tools do have such marks. Since there's no functional difference, it seems to just not matter to certain brands. Hazet does not sell much in stores, mainly bought through dealers, so aesthetics aren't a key selling point to them like they are to some US-focused brands.
 

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You are right. From a functionality perspective it makes little to no difference (harder to clean maybe), but it's still poor craftsmanship. Think of it! If they cut corners here, who knows what else they let slip.
 

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I don't have much Hazet, but can confirm some other European tools do have such marks. Since there's no functional difference, it seems to just not matter to certain brands. Hazet does not sell much in stores, mainly bought through dealers, so aesthetics aren't a key selling point to them like they are to some US-focused brands.
I have quite a few European tools. While some, German in particular, sometimes have a few grinding marks, I generally find the quality of Hazet to be first class. In this instance, the mark looks to be from the forging stage, it's obviously a defect, and I wouldn't be totally happy.
 

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I have quite a few European tools. While some, German in particular, sometimes have a few grinding marks, I generally find the quality of Hazet to be first class. In this instance, the mark looks to be from the forging stage, it's obviously a defect, and I wouldn't be totally happy.
Agree, especially for what you pay for.
 

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I have quite a few European tools. While some, German in particular, sometimes have a few grinding marks, I generally find the quality of Hazet to be first class. In this instance, the mark looks to be from the forging stage, it's obviously a defect, and I wouldn't be totally happy.
Correct, if you enlarge the image the nickel and matt chrome was done over the rough forging mark. It also had a ding, done later, in the open end. I sent it back to Amazon for a refund.

The Hazet 600LG-12 wrench I got today was fine and at £9.60 GBP good value.

I would inspect any new Hazet wrench closely for well-centred broaching. If that is out of kilter the tool is weakened.
 
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My sister lives and works in Switzerland and happens to know a guy who works for PB Swiss. So she got me these for Christmas. Because when I went to visit her, I only had hand baggage allowance, I couldn't take these home till now. Y'all care to guess what they are? Answer at the bottom of the thread:
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Also got a very nice set of PBs in a blister pack:

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And when I was out shopping, I happened to pass a combined tool shop and model rail store, in Belp, near Berne. Very cool place to spend 1/2 an hour, even if everything was 'reassuringly expensive'. I picked up a Promat 1/4" socket set with my remaining Swiss francs:

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And as you've got this far, those PB doohickies are in fact Fondue forks....

Matt
Hi Matt,

Would you be interested of selling the set in the third picture, Would look really nice in my pb swiss collection!

Thank you in advance for your answer,
Victor
 

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A dude from Heyco once told me: Heyco = Germany, Heynen = Ireland, Heytec = Import. But since i´ve never seen an irish Heynen tool (labeled as "Ireland") i always doubt it.
On the other hand they own a forge in Ireland (Shamrock Forge & Tools in Ballina/Republic of Ireland)....
https://www.heyco.de/_EN/standorte.html
https://www.heyco.de/_EN/geschichte.html
...and it seems they produce tools there too. The internet says car tool kits and DIY tools....Maybe they do produce blanks there which then are finished over here hence they have the "Germany" on the tool because the last finishing steps are made here which is good enough to label it with "Germany". But the customs paper work says "Ireland" because in the US the COO labeling is more stringent...... ?
Quoting this reply since it's the newest here on the forum mentioning Heynen.
Was doing some research on Heynen as I have one of their wrenches, and found this catalog of Heynen tools on the Heyco website in case anyone is interested http://web.archive.org/web/20240606014327/https://heyco-werk.de/PDF/HN-PKL-2012.pdf

I'm not a huge fan of my Heynen wrench, it definitely does not feel made in Germany even though it's stamped with "Germany".
 

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Not sure if I posed it, but here's my Pressol oiler. They come painted and mine was a bit scratched over the years so I decided to strip it off and polish it a little bit. Not the absolute best quality casting but it sure looks cool for a modern oiler.

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