Tools from the old world

[demographic]

Very nice! Also are there much handtools(not wood working) besides King **** that are made in England now?

Pics are missing now???

No, not many handtools made here anymore. Some good old names are now owned by Stanley and bought in from somewhere else which I find kind of depressing.
That's why I go ratching about in the local old tool store, well that plus the fact that I get decent tools at car boot sale prices.

With luck you should be able to see the pics now?

 

[byte.size.life]

@ Monte:
Bgs technic:

When you already used that BGS set for a while, could you please write about your experiences? I considered BGS a few times as an alternative, but didn't trust the quality because of their low prices.

Teeny Turner by Picquic, Canada.

That Picquic bit holder is interesting, I use a similar model from Wiha as my pocket tool, fitted with stainless steel bits. I'll see if I can find some pictures of it.

 

[ash95608]

NWS tools for sale for US market

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100284

 

[mrtools]

The fitment is identical

are the pics above ok ?

btw.: cable cutters

Thank for a pics
But i want more pics can u insert a gauge (0.15mm) at 440 open end?

Nice cable cutter very clean cut they all Knipex?
Btw: Awesome pics

 

[catfish]

Just bought these puppies.
32 pounds , free delivery , comes in gift box.
8 inch tailors scissors.
http://www.ernestwright.co.uk/catalogue/browse.aspx?productId=206&breadcrumb=13_50

Also someone recommend me a good glass cutter.Might see if frankstools will ship me a toyo glasscutter although maybe this isn't his usual line of stuff.Amazon won't ship them here like alot of stuff.

 

[american lockpicker]

Just bought these puppies.
32 pounds , free delivery , comes in gift box.
8 inch tailors scissors.
http://www.ernestwright.co.uk/catalogue/browse.aspx?productId=206&breadcrumb=13_50

Also someone recommend me a good glass cutter.Might see if frankstools will ship me a toyo glasscutter although maybe this isn't his usual line of stuff.Amazon won't ship them here like alot of stuff.

Wow those are nice. British made? I've been meaning to get the Fiskars tailor scissors but never got around to it.

Also check this out since you like USA made.

http://www.fletcherviscom.com/ Also they make a plier type tool and a few other things.

 

[catfish]

Wow those are nice. British made?

of course!

Also check this out since you like USA made.

http://www.fletcherviscom.com/ Also they make a plier type tool and a few other things.

thanks , i saw this brand on amazon but was not sure where it was made

 

[american lockpicker]

What the COO mark say?

 

[ricleh]

NWS tools for sale for US market

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100284

Bought from Ash and picked up this afternoon.

 

[mrtools]

@dede sorry if ur waiting friend

mrtools,

Which cable cutters do you prefer the most in terms of durability, sharpness, and producing clean cuts with least amount of cable compression: Marvel or Shell?


Thanks,

Dave

It to hard to answer ur question between a two brand cable cutters..
for me both are very good in durability, and they all producing clean cut

But if u want a very sharp go to Marvel..
for my daily jobs, I used a Shell it produced a clean cut and with a special 2 jaw (cutting side),sometimes I used it to strip a cable
Pics

Marvel..1 jaw (cutting side)

Bought some more tools from Ash today. I picked these up this afternoon. I highly recommend Ash to anyone who wants to buy tools that he carries. He's a great guy to deal with.

Woww!! nice NWS pliers + Festo stuff
I see a nice T wrenches at a tool trolley, who made it, can u post a closeup pics?

 

[catfish]

What the COO mark say?

i am not sure , i only ordered them yesterday so it should be at least a week before i get them

browse the site it shows them being made , it's all still done by hand in sheffield

 

[byte.size.life]

I recently ordered some steel bits from Wiha, and fitted a stubby bitholder with them. They're the sizes I need most often; I use it in combination with a Wera bitratchet. Fits in every pocket, I love them.

 

[ricleh]

Woww!! nice NWS pliers + Festo stuff
I see a nice T wrenches at a tool trolley, who made it, can u post a closeup pics?

The T-handle wrenches are a couple of Koken and the rest are Nepros. I will take a picture when I get home this afternoon. The tool trolley is KTC.

 

[dede2897234]

mrtools,

What is the model number and total length of your Shell cable cutter?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[safabox]

Here's a few things I purchased recently.


HAZET 1/2 Drive Fine Tooth Ratchet

NWS Circlip Pliers

NARVA Terminal Pliers

FUJIYA 110mm Precision Cutters

FUJIYA Screw Removal Pliers

Stahlwille Manoskop 3/8 Drive Torque Wrench

Koken 1/4 Driver Extension

 

[american lockpicker]

Those Narva strippers look exactly like the Klien ones I used to have.

 

[safabox]

Those Narva strippers look exactly like the Klien ones I used to have.

NARVA products are sourced from leading manufacturers around the world so they are most likely re-branded.

 

[dede2897234]

safabox,

Once you put some use on the Fujiya precision cutter and screw remover plier, can you please report back with your impressions?

I am curious if Fujiya produces quality hand tools.


Thanks,

Dave

 

[mik641]

NARVA products are sourced from leading manufacturers around the world so they are most likely re-branded.

Ive got a safa G7, Any relation to the company or just a love for them?

 

[safabox]

safabox,

Once you put some use on the Fujiya precision cutter and screw remover plier, can you please report back with your impressions?

I am curious if Fujiya produces quality hand tools.


Thanks,

Dave

Will do, the 110mm cutters should get a bit of work but it may be a while before I can comment on the screw removers, thanks.

 

[safabox]

Ive got a safa G7, Any relation to the company or just a love for them?

No relation to the company just happy to support a New Zealand company that makes quality products over the imported junk the floods the market here. Dad has a SAFA chest which has lasted him over 20 years & is still like new. I have the GL10 & RC9 combo & the quality is excellent.

 

[Sick Puppy]

No relation to the company just happy to support a New Zealand company that makes quality products over the imported junk the floods the market here. Dad has a SAFA chest which has lasted him over 20 years & is still like new. I have the GL10 & RC9 combo & the quality is excellent.

Good to see another Kiwi on the board! I have a Safa G7 (just like Mik641's dad), and it was great? I say was, I dunno how it's fared from the quake, but between stripping it down and insurance, it will be either repaired or replaced with a new one. I wouldn't mind the cart combo, depends on future plans! safabox, do you get a discount for trade/military?

Like you guys, I like Kiwi made, well, unless it's Japanese or German stuff!

 

[Monte]

Thank for a pics
But i want more pics can u insert a gauge (0.15mm) at 440 open end?

ok i will make some...

Nice cable cutter very clean cut they all Knipex?
Btw: Awesome pics

The one Knipex the other Bessey/Erdi:
http://www.bessey.de/catalogue/catalogue.do?id=435&favOid=000000030002d20f00010023&act=showBookmark

Ergo handles:
http://www.bessey.de/catalogue/cata...00000030002d1f300010023&catMainFolder=cutting

Also someone recommend me a good glass cutter.Might see if frankstools will ship me a toyo glasscutter although maybe this isn't his usual line of stuff.Amazon won't ship them here like alot of stuff.

nice scissors !!!
Glas cutter = Bohle Silberschnitt:

http://www.bohle.de/eDev101Scripts/...023012,-N202,-N150,-N10,-N20,-A1,-N0,-N10,-N1

Bought from Ash and picked up this afternoon.

nice pliers !!! And even nicer drill !!






13mm Carolus combination wrench for the 13mm combination wrench collection www.carolus.de

 

[Monte]

btw: pay attention if you buy something from Hazet through non authorized sources. There are copies/counterfeit products sold like this socket set. So watch out !

 

[dede2897234]

Monte,

When you look at a Hazet socket set, what do you need to observe to identify a real Hazet product from a counterfeit?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[Monte]

Monte,

When you look at a Hazet socket set, what do you need to observe to identify a real Hazet product from a counterfeit?

Thanks,

Dave

Look into the catalog if a set like offered exist. In this case for example you see that this set dont exist and you can see that the double box ratcheting (and non ratcheting) wrenches like in the pic are not offered by Hazet. The ratchets look slightly different too. 1/4" bit driver sockets should be gold colored too. More info: http://www.hazet.com/en/fakes-new/

For individual tools: Difficult if it´s a 1:1 copy. But if there are only slight differences you must know the (original) tools good to see the difference (inscription etc.) if there are any...

I don´t run into these problems because i bought all my Hazet tools from a local dealer to avoid anything like that because i was told years ago that there are copies around from Knipex, VBW and Wiha and most likely from other name brand manufacturers too. I only bought very few hand tools through ebay after checking catalogs and comparing pics to avoid getting ripped off with cheap counterfeits so i mostly only bought vintage stuff and few other things were the price was really good, most other things i bought "offline" to make sure i buy the real thing (the slightly higher price is ok for me). Everything nowadays will be copied ....not only tools, clothes, computer stuff, even simple things like pens. Everything from A to Z where you can make money....

btw: here some "copied" Makita tools...: http://makita.de/173.1.html

Knipex crimping pliers copies:
http://www.china-crimping-tools.com/ly_series_1.html

Gedore hammer copy (safety plate patented) http://www.aiwotools.com/proview.asp?pid=529

What do you need ?? Power tools ?? Bosch ? Makita ? choose the design and color and order some stickers..... www.hongyupt.com

should read "Bosch" but says Hongyu...... The internet is full of examples like that.....

Need a Makita drill ? http://www.hongyupt.com/producten.asp?sort_id=31
Get some Makita stickers and you have one....or many....

Do you like Bosch rotary hammers but not the color ?
www.chinahammer.com

 

[american lockpicker]

even simple things like pens.

Thats a big problem with Mont Blanc.

 

[Monte]

...yep....but they also copy pens which are only 1.- buck i saw in the TV..... btw: need a "Stihl" ? http://www.biqico.com/Details.asp?id=241&class_id=23

 

[AutomatiquE]

Monte : is the bessey ergo handles made in Germany ?
Can't believe about the falsh Hazet...they only deserve the electric chair

 

[Monte]

@Automatique: no the ergo handles + the red handled scissors are from China now. Knipex would be an option but i don´t know where they are from ... germany ? Italy ? China ?... Sometimes you can find the red handled (or black) ones with "Germany" or "Solingen" stamped onto the tool.

 

[AutomatiquE]

^^thank you buddy !

 

[ricleh]

Woww!! nice NWS pliers + Festo stuff
I see a nice T wrenches at a tool trolley, who made it, can u post a closeup pics?

Here are some pictures of the T-handles

All the T-handle wrenches on the tool cart

The Koken T-handles

The Nepros T-handles

 

[Trucky]

Wow! How can you even take those out of the packaging. They look great. And I thought my FP Blackhawk wrench set was shiny.

 

[american lockpicker]

Monte is all of Bessey's production in China now as I've seen some clamps at Fastenal and Lowes that are made in Germany and I've been thinking of buying them if they won't be available in the future.

 

[Trucky]

Bessey still makes the K body Revo's and the higher end ones in Germany, and it doesn't look like they'll shift away from that any time soon. However, more and more "CHINA" is showing up, so you never know.

 

[Monte]

@ricleh: thanks for the nice pics !


@lockpicker:
All cast clamps sold over here have either "Made in Germany" or "Germany" cast into the clamp (cast steel F clamps + cast zinc F clamps), the clamps made of bright drawn steel dont say anything but the (new) packages say "Made in Germany" on the clamps i saw. However the small hobby clamps made completely out of plastic are from China and these are from Taiwan:
http://www.bessey.de/catalogue/catalogue.do?id=113&favOid=000000010002d99100020023&act=showBookmark
In the US they might have a different line up with tools they dont sell over here (vices, more C-clamps) so i guess they have also imported clamps to be able to compete against Stanley + Irwin. In germany the price level is higher so they can sell their german made products here.

 

[dede2897234]

ricleh,

Have you used your Ko-ken and Nepros t-handles much?

If yes, what are the advantages t-handles possess versus a breaker bar; long, locking extension bar; and a socket?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[ricleh]

I use the Koken T-handles for spark plugs and lug nuts. One of each is set up for that particular job. The Nepros are used for small engine work and repetitive tasks such as transmission or oil pan bolts or valve cover bolts where there isn't a lot of torque involved but there are lots of fasteners. Spinning the T-handle is a lot easier and faster than using a ratchet or breaker bar. I use them for other things too, but those are the primary uses of my T-handles.

 

[dede2897234]

ricleh,

Thanks for the feedback on the Ko-ken and Nepros T-handles.


Yesterday, I received from GJ member "ash95608" (German-Hand-Tools in California), an NWS FantasticoPlus, 8" long, heavy duty, side cutter, model# 138-69-200. I wanted to test them by cutting a narrow, vertical strip from the band of a 3/4" to 1-1/2" diameter, stainless steel, worm drive clamp. The NWS FantasticoPlus cutter sliced through the steel band very easily.

I then tried the same test with a Knipex model# 74 22 200, 12° angled head, 8" long, side cutter. The Knipex cutter was only able to score the steel band with its double blades. Here is a link to the Knipex side cutter: http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1367&groupID=1478.

The NWS Fantastico has superior blade sharpness and the hinged design provides up to a claimed 40% reduction in cutting effort. Knipex produces well made side cutters and bolt cutters. The NWS Fantastico blows the Knipex side cutter out of the water. I can't believe the results of this test! From now on, I am going to meet my future plier needs from NWS.

Here is a link to a picture of the NWS Fantastico side cutters GJ member "ash95608" is currently selling in the classified section: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100284.


Dave

 

[Moose-LandTran]

NWS are much better than Knipex in my experience.