Tools from the old world

[Monte]

some tools of a former employer:

 

[Roverbo]

some tools of a former employer:

Nice tools, premium brands, and well used...good tools are like leather seats in a car, just gettin´ more and more pretty - day by day.

 

[Roverbo]

nice antique tools !


....... or to the Stahlwille, Gedore or Hazet dealer

I would love to do that, and have done that - but these tools are very expensive here, mainly because they only sell through professional stores. So if would buy a, say 13 mm wrench from Hazet, the price is around DKK 100,-. Thats 20$ or 14 Euro! If i was a blue-collar guy with an account, the discount would be like 40-50%.
I really like Hazet, so i have a few wrenches "600 N" type, and they are among my favorites. But the price was pretty awfull...

 

[Miskin]

some tools of a former employer:

IMHO Proxxon has the most unconfortable selector lever for ratchets. GJ member Lok reminds me this, when i ask his opinion about the new Hazet ratchet. I own a 1/4 Proxxon socket set and the lever is always piss me off

 

[Miskin]

I would love to do that, and have done that - but these tools are very expensive here, mainly because they only sell through professional stores. So if would buy a, say 13 mm wrench from Hazet, the price is around DKK 100,-. Thats 20$ or 14 Euro! If i was a blue-collar guy with an account, the discount would be like 40-50%.
I really like Hazet, so i have a few wrenches "600 N" type, and they are among my favorites. But the price was pretty awfull...

Same prices "down here". So i'm buying 1-2 wrenches of 600N every 2 weeks. Hopefully in 2013 i will post my full line of Hazet 600N

 

[CanUK]

Spotted this over at my father-in-law's today. I think he was using it to open paint tins

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Barely visible is the "Footprint" logo just to the left of "Made in England".

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[Roverbo]

Spotted this over at my father-in-law's today. I think he was using it to open paint tins

Barely visible is the "Footprint" logo just to the left of "Made in England".

Nice. From a time, when "Made in England" and "Sheffield" or "Birmingham" meant top-of-the-line. Too few english tools on this board.

 

[Monte]

Nice tools, premium brands, and well used...good tools are like leather seats in a car, just gettin´ more and more pretty - day by day.

well said

I would love to do that, and have done that - but these tools are very expensive here, mainly because they only sell through professional stores. So if would buy a, say 13 mm wrench from Hazet, the price is around DKK 100,-. Thats 20$ or 14 Euro! If i was a blue-collar guy with an account, the discount would be like 40-50%.
I really like Hazet, so i have a few wrenches "600 N" type, and they are among my favorites. But the price was pretty awfull...

if you buy one per month ...

IMHO Proxxon has the most unconfortable selector lever for ratchets. GJ member Lok reminds me this, when i ask his opinion about the new Hazet ratchet. I own a 1/4 Proxxon socket set and the lever is always piss me off

i don´t like them either

Same prices "down here". So i'm buying 1-2 wrenches of 600N every 2 weeks. Hopefully in 2013 i will post my full line of Hazet 600N

same how i bought my Hazet tools 3 sockets per month ...took a while....







i don´t know if this video was already posted ? How it´s made: Gedore pliers

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Kress power tools promo video:

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[lok]

very nice bearing extractor set !
reminds me to buy some Gedore because they have some problems right now and had to release some people....

Monte if there is a plan to move the production overseas please tell it to me to buy as much as I can.

Ok I'll do my best. I'll buy German tools from Greek distributors to support both economies. But I need more money!

I used to have these. They are Italian Made. Beta has some wrenches made in Taiwan, but these tend to be bright chrome. The matt chrome wrenches like yours are Italian.

Do you see any coo on the package?

Some wrenches from around the (old) world...

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Do you have more from these?

Which one do you like the most? The Elora or the Heyco?

some tools of a former employer:

So you have worked with the U20! Do you liked it?





A lot of old and well used tools in last pages. We need more.





My pry bar now has a big brother.

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[lok]

i don´t know if this video was already posted ? How it´s made: Gedore pliers

I had seen it but did not bother me to see it again.

Pipe wrenches fabrication.

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Saw fabrication.

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Tools test by a professional. I bet you'll like it.

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At 3.30 she use the water pump plier backwards.

 

[Miskin]

Do you have more from these?

Which one do you like the most? The Elora or the Heyco?

You mean the Heyco or the Sadvik-Belzer? The Elora is in another photo. I like the Heyco. The Belzer is too glossy for my taste. The Heyco has excellent chrome quality. It's flawless!

 

[lok]

You mean the Heyco or the Sadvik-Belzer? The Elora is in another photo. I like the Heyco. The Belzer is too glossy for my taste. The Heyco has excellent chrome quality. It's flawless!

Yes I meant if you have more tools from Heyco and Belzer. If you have I like to see some more photos.

So you like the Heyco more than the Elora? I don't ask for the Belzer because they stop the production.
I don't mind the small defects from the forging but the chrome durability, the resistance to peeling, the fitment etc. Which one do you like the most? I have seen some Elora with good use and they hold very well.

 

[Miskin]

Wow nice collection! I like the Netsuren. The Facom 40L is a long version I think? I haven't come across one of those before.

I do not know the quality standards of JIS B 4630 but NETSUREN open end spanners i have worked with are low quality. Maybe is the standards, but these spanners are too soft. I will post some photos to see what i mean.

 

[lok]

Something that we haven't seen it so far.

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[Monte]

Monte if there is a plan to move the production overseas please tell it to me to buy as much as I can.

no they only had to release some people to be "fit for the future" ....
36 people in the main factory, 26 people at the "Krumm" forge and 33 people at their bavarian factory...

Ok I'll do my best. I'll buy German tools from Greek distributors to support both economies. But I need more money!

chancellor Merkel is already on the way to greece with the Gedore tool truck filled with billions of Euros

So you have worked with the U20! Do you liked it?

i like it very much, smooth action, nice comfortable handle, good design and finish ! Already on the wish list for 2013

My pry bar now has a big brother.

sweet

Tools test by a professional. I bet you'll like it.

professional ???

At 3.30 she use the water pump plier backwards.

Professional !!!!!!!!!!!

Something that we haven't seen it so far.

nice ! With magnet ?

 

[lok]

no they only had to release some people to be "fit for the future" ....
36 people in the main factory, 26 people at the "Krumm" forge and 33 people at their bavarian factory...

Thats bad.

chancellor Merkel is already on the way to greece with the Gedore tool truck filled with billions of Euros

Yes but they don't belong to us.

i like it very much, smooth action, nice comfortable handle, good design and finish ! Already on the wish list for 2013

Ok, thanks.

professional ???

Professional !!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, maybe not a pro but never before the German language was heard so **** and ****** to me.

Even though I did not understand anything.

nice ! With magnet ?

Yes!

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It also has a nice case with extra batteries.

 

[Miskin]

Yes I meant if you have more tools from Heyco and Belzer. If you have I like to see some more photos.

So you like the Heyco more than the Elora? I don't ask for the Belzer because they stop the production.
I don't mind the small defects from the forging but the chrome durability, the resistance to peeling, the fitment etc. Which one do you like the most? I have seen some Elora with good use and they hold very well.

About the chrome durability of Heyco i wil give a clue. I think Heyco is made 100% of chrome! No chrome peeling ... from chrome spanner.
The Elora spanner is excellent (in fact i'm looking to purchase a open-end set from this brand), but the Heyco is like new after at least 15 years. Maybe because is 21mm. Who the hell uses a 21mm spanner?
I will post some better pics to find out what i'm talking about.

P.S.1 Where do you bought this fantastic light? From Gedore dealer? This is ...
P.S.2 http://www.ebay.de/itm/Heyco-Ringmaulschlussel-maxline-410-SW-22-mm-MKM-WZ-156-/221113864881?pt=DE_Haus_Garten_Heimwerker_Handwerkzeug&hash=item337b69d2b1#ht_1656wt_1165
Look at this pic!

 

[lok]

About the chrome durability of Heyco i wil give a clue. I think Heyco is made 100% of chrome! No chrome peeling ... from chrome spanner.
The Elora spanner is excellent (in fact i'm looking to purchase a open-end set from this brand), but the Heyco is like new after at least 15 years. Maybe because is 21mm. Who the hell uses a 21mm spanner?
I will post some better pics to find out what i'm talking about.

P.S.1 Where do you bought this fantastic light? From Gedore dealer? This is ...
P.S.2 http://www.ebay.de/itm/Heyco-Ringmaulschlussel-maxline-410-SW-22-mm-MKM-WZ-156-/221113864881?pt=DE_Haus_Garten_Heimwerker_Handwerkzeug&hash=item337b69d2b1#ht_1656wt_1165
Look at this pic!

Thank man. I like both.
Mrtools has a set from Heyco. Here.
The chrome is bright but I like them.
I have heard nothing but good for both of them. I tend to buy one Elora open end for my ******* open end wrench collection.

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Yes, I bought the light from the usual Gedore dealer near to my house.

 

[maxipouce]

Hi guys, I haven't been here for a while, sot let's stick to the latest trend and add a "tools in action" picture;

60's FOG press pushing out the master pin out of a 60's FOG trolley jack, what a fun it was to put this 80kg frame on the table alinging it and pumping all alone

 

[Miskin]

Thank man. I like both.
Mrtools has a set from Heyco. Here.
The chrome is bright but I like them.
I have heard nothing but good for both of them. I tend to buy one Elora open end for my ******* open end wrench collection.

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Yes, I bought the light from the usual Gedore dealer near to my house.

Mrtools's heyco set is ... what i'm talking about. For me it's difficult to find Heyco. I wish I had easy access to Heyco
"******* open end wrench collection"
I will do the same thing if i can't find a good price for Elora. By the way... the Gedore has great look, better from France & Italy!
About the light, is it waterproof?

 

[Holt]

Just got my Veto TP3 and MB bag for my overflow tools.

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[Van Steele]

Seeing as everyone is posting their Gedore stuff, here's one I found at the tip some years ago.

A week later at the same place. Couldn't find the 8 mm and the 18 mm had a brawl with a lathe - and lost. No ratchet or extensions either.

Nothing more to be brought home from there now, they've converted into a "recycling centre", complete with guards, errr I mean environmental officers and CCTV.

Some old spanners from Germany and France.

Nice. From a time, when "Made in England" and "Sheffield" or "Birmingham" meant top-of-the-line. Too few english tools on this board.

Leslie Hartridge nozzle cleaning set for diesel engines.

The Toyota fuel system tester in the previous picture is also made in England.

 

[Monte]

Yes but they don't belong to us.

it´s a gift

Ok, maybe not a pro but never before the German language was heard so **** and ****** to me.

Even though I did not understand anything. .

Yes!
It also has a nice case with extra batteries.

luckily christmas is coming soon !







Elora image video:

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[lok]

Hi guys, I haven't been here for a while, sot let's stick to the latest trend and add a "tools in action" picture;

60's FOG press pushing out the master pin out of a 60's FOG trolley jack, what a fun it was to put this 80kg frame on the table alinging it and pumping all alone

Wow this is very old!

Mrtools's heyco set is ... what i'm talking about. For me it's difficult to find Heyco. I wish I had easy access to Heyco
"******* open end wrench collection"
I will do the same thing if i can't find a good price for Elora. By the way... the Gedore has great look, better from France & Italy!
About the light, is it waterproof?

http://www.makra.gr/%CE%95%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD%CE%AF%CE%B1/

If you find any matador "made in Germany" let me know. I also can ask for prices for Elora if you want.
Ow ****. I forgot to ask about the old Gedore ratchet. Next time I hope to remember it.

I don't know if it's waterproof or water resistant.

Seeing as everyone is posting their Gedore stuff, here's one ....

Nice old stuff. Especially the gedore socket set.

it´s a gift

Angela Knows that?

luckily christmas is coming soon !

Elora image video:

Nice! How old is this company?

 

[CanUK]

Seeing as everyone is posting their Gedore stuff, here's one I found at the tip some years ago.

That's really cool. I have a similar one with drop-down panels on either side and a bin-type bottom. Yours looks really vintage though - I like it a lot. Whomever tossed that out should be shot.

I'm always amazed at the stuff I see chucked out at our tip, but have never spotted anything that good! (if I did I'd be bribing the guys to let me take it home)

 

[Roverbo]

Leslie Hartridge nozzle cleaning set for diesel engines.


The Toyota fuel system tester in the previous picture is also made in England.

Nice, Van Steele! I have a few Britool things, long/slim 9/16" sockets for propeller shafts etc. but i don´t think they are made in England. Are any Stanley tools still from England?

 

[Miskin]

http://www.makra.gr/%CE%95%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BD%CF%89%CE%BD%CE%AF%CE%B1/

If you find any matador "made in Germany" let me know. I also can ask for prices for Elora if you want.
Ow ****. I forgot to ask about the old Gedore ratchet. Next time I hope to remember it.

I don't know if it's waterproof or water resistant.

Thanks for the link. I'll make a phone to them for dealer in Athens. The Gedore ratchet it's not so old as i thought. You can find it in the new catalogue. The thing i want you to ask is where we can use this type of ratchet.
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[Roverbo]

Also ask your dealer a price for this elora stuff.
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Are these ratcheting spanners made in Germany??? Almost all german brands seems to have this type made in Taiwan.

 

[Miskin]

Are these ratcheting spanners made in Germany??? Almost all german brands seems to have this type made in Taiwan.

I don't know. I thought Elora is 100% made in Germany. Monte knows for sure!

 

[Monte]

Angela Knows that?

shhhhhht it´s a secret

Nice! How old is this company?

it was founded in 1924
http://elora.de/site/en/zukunft.php

Are these ratcheting spanners made in Germany??? Almost all german brands seems to have this type made in Taiwan.

i´m 100% sure they´re not german.
Looks almost like these from Chang Loon:

http://cens.com/cens/html/en/product/product_main_47177.html

The only german made ones i know of are Gedore ratcheting wrenches.

 

[Monte]

pepper mill attachment for the Bosch Ixo

 

[mrtools]

"errrkkk" meaning you think it's not very good? In person they seem to be of fairly good quality, but I'm not terribly concerned either way considering I paid £1 and only bought them as a curiosity
And I thought I'd read (on GJ maybe) that the JIS stamp was missing from many newer Japanese tools because it had been largely superseded as a standard. Are those spanners older?

maybe for the £1 it's very good quality
You right! many Japanese tools today got no JIS stamp on the tools..but Japanese still stamp JIS their selected tools.

+1 to this Mr Tools,

Once again great pics. Keep shooting mr.
Great tools

Thanks buddy

Is this a Tone breaker bar?

Yes! Tone breaker bar or spinner handle 211

A very good friend ask what internal extractors to buy.
Well...

nice

uncle sam and samurai wrenches will follow ...just difficult or impossible to find locally....

tell me if you need help.. but sorry! currently I don't own any uncle sam or even samurai comb. wrench, will try to find it for you

Thickness of open end:
1. 7 XL (thickest)
2. 1 B
3. 7
4. 7 UR (thinnest)
(There is only a little difference between the "7" and "7 UR" of about 0,1 to 0,3mm in thickness)

Great!! thanks for the answers

OK, more old world, used tools...

Great used tools thanks to shared

Bought a 3/8 Hazet ratchet online for just 5 euro's (selector lever was broken). For another 10 euro's I bought the repair kit. After some fiddling with that spring and ball I now have I nice new ratchet!

Great repair job Geurt, congratulation!!

Some wrenches from around the (old) world...Japan

Great collection!!!
Where you got the Netsuren?

some tools of a former employer:

nice usedddddddd tools..it's from car body repair workshop?
How about the tools cart/cabinet?(pics 4 to 7) looks like the old Gedore, I see blue/silver hammer coated.
btw: sorry to says.. looks like the German people did not appreciated their tools..maybe the good quality and branded tools very cheap and easy to get there, so they don't need to worried about the tool becomes or maybe the owner did not done the jobs yet
ps: ..and thanks to help me find a good tools since I joint this forum ...love my tools, It quite hard to get a good quality tools here, the prices is expensive too so I cleaned all my tools after completed the jobs no matter it a company or my personal tools

Pipe wrenches fabrication.
Saw fabrication.

nice video thanks to shared

Tools test by a professional. I bet you'll like it.
At 3.30 she use the water pump plier backwards.

Sure I like it errr I mean the girl

Something that we haven't seen it so far.

that would be a great assistant!!!

reminds me to buy some Gedore because they have some problems right now and had to release some people....

no they only had to release some people to be "fit for the future" ....
36 people in the main factory, 26 people at the "Krumm" forge and 33 people at their bavarian factory...

Thanks God.. hope Gedore still produced their tools in Germany
are you work with Ministry Tools of Germany?

About the chrome durability of Heyco i wil give a clue. I think Heyco is made 100% of chrome! No chrome peeling ... from chrome spanner.
The Elora spanner is excellent (in fact i'm looking to purchase a open-end set from this brand), but the Heyco is like new after at least 15 years.

you right! I used my Maxline 410 for more than 6 years and the chrome still great

Thank man. I like both.
I tend to buy one Elora open end for my ******* open end wrench collection.

nice collection

Seeing as everyone is posting their Gedore stuff, here's one I found at the tip some years ago.

Awesome old Gedore cart, the drawer handle is very cool
I like old Gedore cart especially Adjutant series

Some old spanners from Germany and France.

nice wrenches..

Got all of them for free?

 

[Miskin]

i´m 100% sure they´re not german.
Looks almost like these from Chang Loon:

http://cens.com/cens/html/en/product/product_main_47177.html

The only german made ones i know of are Gedore ratcheting wrenches.

That's susks But, on the other hand, it will be cheaper, right?

Great collection!!!
Where you got the Netsuren?

It came inside a toolbox with other tools together with an OKUMA CNC. Like Heyco or other german brand when you buy a german car.

 

[mrtools]

It came inside a toolbox with other tools together with an OKUMA CNC. Like Heyco or other german brand when you buy a german car.

Thanks for the answer..It is a tradition..bought a Japanese machine and you got a Japanese made toolbox + wrenches, like you said German car with Heyco tool kits. I got 2 of my Netsuren when my company bought Yamada Dobby stamping press machine It a free gift set so the quality just OK

 

[mrtools]

Swedish Bacho adjustable wrench and Japanese Minimo/Monitor precision file.

 

[lok]

The Gedore ratchet it's not so old as i thought. You can find it in the new catalogue. The thing i want you to ask is where we can use this type of ratchet.

Probably it's an old type heavy duty ratcheting wrench. You can use it where ever you can use a ratcheting wrench. I guess.

Also ask your dealer a price for this elora stuff.

Unfortunately my dealer hasn't Elora. I had to go to another. I ask him about the price of ratcheting combination wrenches and he told me that he hasn't any in stock and that he will not make an order soon.

Ask about the price and told me that the person who is responsible for the prices wasn't there. He told me to leave my phone number to call me, I didn't. The last time that he told me the same never did.

I ask about Elora open end and gave me Eloford. Ask for Elora again and told me it's the same. Ok keep rocking man.

You have to find a serious dealer. And if you make it please let me know. I need one two things.

shhhhhht it´s a secret

ok...

it was founded in 1924
http://elora.de/site/en/zukunft.php

Thanks. I should look the sait better.

pepper mill attachment for the Bosch Ixo

That's nice! Bottle opener and papper mill!

Yes! Tone breaker bar or spinner handle 211

Thanks. That's nice.

you right! I used my Maxline 410 for more than 6 years and the chrome still great

Mrtools you have a lot of great tools. Which one is your favorite combination wrench?

nice collection

Thanks

That's susks But, on the other hand, it will be cheaper, right?

Not necessarily! The old gedore for e.g. wasn't cheap, and the new one is not too expensive compared with some made in Taiwan.

Swedish Bacho adjustable wrench and Japanese Minimo/Monitor

Man!!! You have great tools. Congratulation.

How it called? Pipe wrench right?

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[lok]

Swedish Bacho adjustable wrench and Japanese Minimo/Monitor precision file.

I was looking your photos again. These two gives me the impression that it has close to zero free play.

How do you compare it with the irega? They look the same!

 

[Roverbo]

Swedish Bacho adjustable wrench and Japanese Minimo/Monitor precision file.

This is funny, although you sure are right, and i can see the stamping, this doesn´t look like a Bacho to me. Bacho has always used a black phosfated look (that fades to a more bare metal-look over time) or the softhandle rubber-style, that was introduced in the late 90´s. But yours look really nice, though. Maybe I should add one to my Bacho-collection ...

Old Bacho (70´s) and even older Bacho (end 60´s)
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Newer Bachos, just after the introduction of the "Ergo" concept - but still no soft handle:
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Hazet 12" and Bacho 12" wrenches - The Hazet says "Germany" in the faded silk-screen printing, but well, that must be "From a warehouse in Germany"...

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...Because, these are twins, or don´t you think?
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IUS = MOB Outillage

i guess the wrenches and sockets (the new glossy ones without "Germany"....) are from Taiwan nowadays ... (?)
Maybe only at the Bauhaus...? Maybe they have a second german line ....?? Bauhaus don´t want to pay anything for the Matador tools i heard......their prices are like 40% below list prices....

At the left: Classic style Matador ½" socket - matte/glossy finish. At right: New Matador socket. All glossy and knurled ribbon. Lower profile, these are both 30 mm metrics.

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Different kind of stamping, and missing "Germany" text...

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[Miskin]

Probably it's an old type heavy duty ratcheting wrench. You can use it where ever you can use a ratcheting wrench. I guess.



Unfortunately my dealer hasn't Elora. I had to go to another. I ask him about the price of ratcheting combination wrenches and he told me that he hasn't any in stock and that he will not make an order soon.

Ask about the price and told me that the person who is responsible for the prices wasn't there. He told me to leave my phone number to call me, I didn't. The last time that he told me the same never did.

I ask about Elora open end and gave me Eloford. Ask for Elora again and told me it's the same. Ok keep rocking man.

You have to find a serious dealer. And if you make it please let me know. I need one two things.

http://www.forulis.gr/forulisgreek/catalogue.htm

I was email them but no answer.

 

[mrtools]

Mrtools you have a lot of great tools. Which one is your favorite combination wrench?

honestly...

Man!!! You have great tools. Congratulation.

It's not mine, company tools - Minimo
Bacho Adj. wrench - free gift from Sandvik Coromant, my company bought a lot of Sandvik Coromant cutting tools -

How it called? Pipe wrench right?

as we know several type of pipe wrenches etc,. American patten like Ridgid, Stillson type like Record, and maybe this is Swedish type pipe wrench, wait for Monte explanation for sure..