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nanofrog

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Does Wiha make any pliers in Germany now or are they all made in SROV ?
Yes, but it seems it's only the Inomic pliers and cutter line are made by Wiha in Germany these days.

Everything else they actually make are from SROV.

The ESD Precision Electronics Pliers and Cutters are also German, but it doesn't specifically say "Made by Wiha" or "Made by Wiha Germany" as they do with the SROV and German stuff respectively for example, so I'm going with rebranded.

Some other electronics pliers and cutter lines from Italy (standard precision electronics line; actual manufacturer), and Taiwan (Proturn line).

The 1000V Insulated pliers and cutters are apparently rebranded out of Switzerland.
 
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My new angle grinder

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OK, Thanks! :thumbup:

Anyone some info on my question regarding to the use of a (pneumatic) impact ratchet (related to the maximum torque values) perhaps?

Example: the max. loosening torques of Hazet impact wrenches are a lot higher than the DIN-values.
1/2" drive: between 500 and 1800Nm!
Is this simply due to the efficiency of the impact mechanism (higher torques can be achieved without the extra strain on the material)?

A few things that come to my mind on this subject.....

Hand tools are subjected to constant torque loads while pneumatic impacting tools are subjected to momentary torque loads due to the impacting mechanism.

The material used on the square anvil for pneumatic impacting tools are probably different than hand tools. ....like CrV (exteremely hard material) is used for hand tools and (good) impact sockets use CroMo (forgiving material)

Do not take manufacture torque ratings as truth. There's simply no standard for manufacturers to adhere to. They come up with those ratings through their own in-house testing, with the most ideal setup to achieve those (inflated) numbers. Therefore, I never place any faith into those numbers! If it sounds too good to be true, then it morelikely isn't!
 

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Tools in action...or tools that make my job go easier/faster



Using this Anex angle-head bit ratchet allows me to work the fastener from start to finish. Without the angle head, I'd have to change tools mid way to adjust for the change in clearance.

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Adjusting for camber. Nothing really special here I guess. Any standard socketry item will perform the job.

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Here I'm using a Wera 3/8 drive locking extension on the end of a long extension. I'm also using a universal socket with a Ko-ken nut-grip socket holding a nut for the motor mount. By using Wera's extension with the spin collar, I can operate the extension with my fingers even though there's quite a bit of tension from having the extension wedged between the two lines. With a standard extension I probably would've struggled to get the nut started on the stud.

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Using my long 1/4" drive rotator ratchet with a 10mm Ko-ken nut-grip socket to easily fasten a bracket. This tool combination saves me a lot of time and fuss. With an ordinary ratchet, I have no room to swing the ratchet unless I go from the bottom, but that's an awkward position. With the rotator ratchet, I simply rotate the handle back and forth and I'm done very quickly.
The nut-grip socket allows me the peice of mind that I don't have to cross my fingers that the fastener is going to fall down into the engine bay, to be found no where.

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Tools used to change a water pump and thermostat. The impacting air ratchet is such a great idea. Twice as fast as a standard air ratchet and really quiet!


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Using Anex's long T-20 bit and flex shaft to get wayyy down into the dash. Flex shaft allows me the clearance to use my drill/driver and provides me the line of vision to actually see the fastener that's buried deep.

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Tools to get that job done:

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Luis Arturo

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This is my new orbital sander:D, bought by the free market. Although this is a new discontinued model, and home jobs that take care enough.
The price was very attractive and the fact it was manufactured in England is an added bonus that I could not pass up.:drool:

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Re: New arrivngs - and an old water pump plier

Old Wera screwdriver and two NOS Pferd 1B files.
German made Wera?

Gedore open end wrench for a die grinder:
nice..I'm sure Gedore still made the open-ended wrench in Germany.
but not this Facom
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"Brennenstuhl" socket outlet
Wow! looks good with dust proof switch:thumbup:

My new angle grinder
Congratulation! awesome German made grinder how much do you pay for it? it's hard to get it here mostly Bosch here comes from PRC:evil:

btw: the most powerful 7" angle grinder I ever use :D :rocker:
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Tools in action...or tools that make my job go easier/faster
great pictures and really nice tools :rocker:
 

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New addition to the shop

Gieb air compressor Made in Germany

Only 90l due to safety regulations, everything bigger than that in a commercial shop needs to be checked by the TÜV.

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My new angle grinder
nice !! :rocker:
Tools in action...or tools that make my job go easier/faster
cool pics !! What flashlight do you use ? :)
This is my new orbital sander:D, bought by the free market. Although this is a new discontinued model, and home jobs that take care enough.
The price was very attractive and the fact it was manufactured in England is an added bonus that I could not pass up.:drool:
nice find !
I've got the same in green. :lol:
ahhhh the garden version :):rocker:

nice..I'm sure Gedore still made the open-ended wrench in Germany.
but not this Facom
no coo on the Gedore wrench :scared::)
New addition to the shop
neat compressor !!













paint supplies:
paint roller and large foam paint rolls made in germany...


...and a brush and small paint rolls made in czech republic:
 

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Tools in action...or tools that make my job go easier/faster





Using Anex's long T-20 bit and flex shaft to get wayyy down into the dash. Flex shaft allows me the clearance to use my drill/driver and provides me the line of vision to actually see the fastener that's buried deep.


Thanks for sharing that! Often learn something by watching someone else do a job!

Anex make some useful, and not too costly, stuff! I used to be able to get their tools locally but not at the moment, which is a shame as those long torx bits look good!

I see you like Ko Ken nut grip sockets too! Seriously useful when you are trying to locate a nut but can barely see where it fits, let alone get your fingers on it!
 

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Hello here are some new tools made in Romania by MOB & IUS.
We have E10 1/2" socket; 13mm 1/2" socket and 1/4" socket driver.

Best regards
 

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superautobacs

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cool pics !! What flashlight do you use ? :)

My trusted penlight is a Suprabeam. I posted it here before: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3387028&postcount=16946

No complaints with it. I really favour it's ability to change the focus of the beam. I've seen others that have that feature, but often found that they produce unwanted rings and the light is cast unevenly. With the Suprabeam the light is evenly cast, with no rings, whether it's full flood, beam focus or anywhere in between. For a penlight class, I haven't come across another that meets the versatility and light output of this. ....although, I'll admit I'm not a flashlight enthusiast like some are....so, take that into consideration. I'm really happy with mine though, and every co-worker who saw/used mine were really impressed with its performance.





Nice pictures.

To Blockwart: How can you tell the Beta 42 wrenches are Made in Italy?
They have no COO on them.

I think there's a video on youtube that showed the production of their wrenches in one of their forging factories in Italy.

They certainly used to stamp "Italy" on the wrench.

Here's my Ko-ken wrench and the OEM is Beta, but unfortunately there wasn't a "Italy" stamped on it. But all sources tell me that they are indeed made in Italy.
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Here's an example of when Ko-ken wrenches actually came with "Italy" on them:
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I can attest to the quality of their wrenches. I use my 24mm open end for busting loose tie rod jam nuts which can sometimes be on tight. I've put my entire 70kg weight on the end of the wrench a few times and the thing shows no sign of marring/deformation. It's impressive especially when considering how thin they are:


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Thanks for sharing that! Often learn something by watching someone else do a job!

Anex make some useful, and not too costly, stuff! I used to be able to get their tools locally but not at the moment, which is a shame as those long torx bits look good!

I see you like Ko Ken nut grip sockets too! Seriously useful when you are trying to locate a nut but can barely see where it fits, let alone get your fingers on it!

Indeed, their stuff has a good price/performance ratio. My most-used torx and ball hex bits are still in great shape after using them for over an year. The torx bits sometimes get driven by my Makita 10.8v impact driver, too.

Yes, I've been a happy nut-grip user for 3 some odd years. :)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: every auto-tinkerer should ought to consider getting some nut-grip sockets.....and forget about those times of using masking tape/tissue/dum-dum to retain your fasteners.
Also, if you work on modern cars, some manufacturers use aluminum fasteners which won't work with magnetic sockets, so there's another reason to consider the nut-grips.
 

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Luis Arturo

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I bought a couple of days my first parrot beak pliers, I did not purchase the classic Stanley is very common here ago and I decided to look at a flea market finding this Acesa and Bahco, both 9.5 inches.

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I really like the design of the Spanish model, he looks more stylish and better finished, the advantage of Bahco, of classic and bolt shaft design, 40mm is your jaw. Acesa unlike that only goes to 25mm.

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Hello Everybody,

Most of my tools are Facom bought more than 20 years ago (so Made in France) :),

Facom + 2 Knipex (Made in germany)
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Facom + 2 Bost pliers (Made in France) + Stanley wrenches
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Facom 1/4" & 1/2" ratchet sets + few ratchets: Bahco 1/4", Facom 1/4" rotary, Hazet bit ratchet & Wera bit ratchet
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Magnusson 1/4" ratchet set made in Taiwan but very good quality and lifetime warranty & cheap (4 times less expensive than Facom !!!)
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Misc: I bought the big KTC (Kyoto Tool Company) scredriver in Japan but it's Made in France :D by Bost like the small just above !
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Nice Facom pliers:)) I'm looking to buy such :dunno:

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Tools in action...or tools that make my job go easier/faster


Using my long 1/4" drive rotator ratchet with a 10mm Ko-ken nut-grip socket to easily fasten a bracket. This tool combination saves me a lot of time and fuss. With an ordinary ratchet, I have no room to swing the ratchet unless I go from the bottom, but that's an awkward position. With the rotator ratchet, I simply rotate the handle back and forth and I'm done very quickly.
The nut-grip socket allows me the peice of mind that I don't have to cross my fingers that the fastener is going to fall down into the engine bay, to be found no where.

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Superautobacs,


Would you mind providing a complete picture of the 1/4" drive rotator ratchet?

Who is the manufacturer and what is the model # for it?

If you had to choose your first Ko-ken Nut Grip socket set (based on your past experiences with these sockets), would it be the 1/4" or 3/8" drive set?


Thanks,

Dave
 
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superautobacs

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Superautobacs,


Would you mind providing a complete picture of the 1/4" drive rotator ratchet?

Who is the manufacturer and what is the model # for it?

If you had to choose your first Ko-ken Nut Grip socket set (based on your past experiences with these sockets), would it be the 1/4" or 3/8" drive set?


Thanks,

Dave

I got mine from Princess Auto (equivalent of HF in Canada, although, it's A LOT better). It's sold under their in-house "Powerfist" brand and it was on sale for about $18.

I don't know who the OEM is, but COO=Taiwan.


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For automotive work, I'd say go with the 1/4" drive set. I have them from 7mm - 13mm. I have a few in 3/8" drive (8,10,12,13) but they don't come out too often. I plan on getting a 16 in the future, but it's not high priority.
 

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I think there's a video on youtube that showed the production of their wrenches in one of their forging factories in Italy.

They certainly used to stamp "Italy" on the wrench.

Here's my Ko-ken wrench and the OEM is Beta, but unfortunately there wasn't a "Italy" stamped on it. But all sources tell me that they are indeed made in Italy.
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Here's an example of when Ko-ken wrenches actually came with "Italy" on them:
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I can attest to the quality of their wrenches. I use my 24mm open end for busting loose tie rod jam nuts which can sometimes be on tight. I've put my entire 70kg weight on the end of the wrench a few times and the thing shows no sign of marring/deformation. It's impressive especially when considering how thin they are:


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Ok, understood :). Thanks superautobacs, thanks Blockwart.



Does anybody knwo how to get/where to get those [URL="http://www.duerholt-zangen.de/gb/htdocs/zange.htm"][B]Dürholt Odür-Fit shear pliers[/B][/URL] in Germany?
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I've only seen them as rebranded Elora an quite priecey :(.

I am also looking for a professional crimp plier for isolated and non-isolated plug type connectors and for end sleeves (ferrules).


What is a good one? Knipex? Weidmüller? Cimco?
As I have to crimp three cars and two motorcycles from the ground up it can be a good (expensive) model.

How about these? CEB4010 'Made in Sweden'.

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Some surgical tools from a pawn shop close to where I work. The mirror is Belzer, and I just assumed the pliers are from the old world too. Look at the precision on those teeth...
 

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s_pellegrino

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I am also looking for a professional crimp plier for isolated and non-isolated plug type connectors and for end sleeves (ferrules).


What is a good one? Knipex? Weidmüller? Cimco?
As I have to crimp three cars and two motorcycles from the ground up

Knipex Multicrimp or Preciforce are very nice

 

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I am also looking for a professional crimp plier for isolated and non-isolated plug type connectors and for end sleeves (ferrules).


What is a good one? Knipex? Weidmüller? Cimco?
As I have to crimp three cars and two motorcycles from the ground up it can be a good (expensive) model.

How about these? CEB4010 'Made in Sweden'.

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Those Swedish ones look good.

I use the solder type terminals, but similar Knipex, just different dies.

I bought Knipex PreciForce® Crimping Pliers 97 52 35, 18 months ago, and these have been fine. I have been using a pair of Utilux R125-U for the last 30 years or more. The ratchet on the Knipex is a good feature.

The other very worthwhile tool is an insulation stripper, that gives consistent lengths of strip; makes for much neater job. e.g Knipex 12 40 200

I have been looking at Deutsch plugs for awhile, and plan to shift to these for next loom builds.
 

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Trucky

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Vidar, I believe that's to help hold flathead screws in there so you can position the driver without having to hold the screw to it.
 

node105

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Recieved some tin snips,branded winkelgreiff,but they look wery similar to a erdi tin snip i have.
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Winkelgreif Snips, Shears and Cutters - Made in Germany
Cutting technology to the highest of standards
Quality since 1853

The full line of Winkelgreif tools, including standard tin snips in high-grade and stainless steel, compound leverage tin snips with stainless-steel and tungsten-carbide cutting edges, electrician's shears and cable cutters, multi-purpose cutters and a multiplicity of other ergonomically engineered industrial shears, meets any requirements a professional user could pose

Part of Turnus, Kukko, Winkelgreif

http://www.turnus.de

Will have to find a source (meaning european source)
 

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Winkelgreif Snips, Shears and Cutters - Made in Germany

Cutting technology to the highest of standards

Quality since 1853



The full line of Winkelgreif tools, including standard tin snips in high-grade and stainless steel, compound leverage tin snips with stainless-steel and tungsten-carbide cutting edges, electrician's shears and cable cutters, multi-purpose cutters and a multiplicity of other ergonomically engineered industrial shears, meets any requirements a professional user could pose



Part of Turnus, Kukko, Winkelgreif



http://www.turnus.de



Will have to find a source (meaning european source)


Hmm.the winkelgreiff looks similar to my erdi,atleast the handles.
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Hard to tell who made it for who.Tool companies are like swingers:)
 
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