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Isn't that Swedish?

Swedish company yes, but Volvo bought Daf cars as far as I can recall, and then used the factory in the Netherlands to make their smaller cars.

I think the 66 was sold as both a Daf and a Volvo, but Volvo soon ditched that and produced the much more numerous 340 and 360 series, then the upmarket 440/460. The 480 really was a one off, and sadly they havn't produced anything like it since! I don't know if they were ever exported to the U.S.
 
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I know it about enemy and so on, but may i post here some russian/soviet tools?
 
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Thank you, i would begin. Soviet really diamond files in any forms, also for schoemaker.
Don't forget the Peddinghaus with a lot of bits STILL made by W.Schröder
 

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Hello Slon1977,

I would really like to see the Russian tools and I am sure many other around here.

Maybe post links where to buy them as well...

Welcome on board
 

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I found these in a bag full of wrenches that belonged to my grandfather. Not sure where he got them, maybe from a Lada toolkit.
Wouldn't call them high end, but cool nonetheless! ;)

Yep, volvo built numerous cars in the Netherlands after taking over DAF. That's why there are Volvo's with the CVT transmission system. They were already using Renault engines in the early '80s
 

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A Bob Stapler bought on the weekend from a yard sale.

BOB - the multi-purpose stapling tool

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I found these in a bag full of wrenches that belonged to my grandfather. Not sure where he got them, maybe from a Lada toolkit.

Wouldn't call them high end, but cool nonetheless! ;)



Yep, volvo built numerous cars in the Netherlands after taking over DAF. That's why there are Volvo's with the CVT transmission system. They were already using Renault engines in the early '80s



Interesting I missed the Volvo daf takeover in my history [emoji39]. Cool thing about the daf variomatic transmission is they went about as fast backwards as forwards. About forty to 60 kph iirc. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

As with Russian airplanes finish is functional at best. That said I'd be willing to guess those wrenches take a serious beating.

We used to joke The yak 52s I flew were like brick s$&@ houses. Indestructible.
 

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Arrived today (Canada to Oz; 6 days) - a Millers Falls No. 34 ratcheting bit brace, with ring selector.

6 inch sweep

Chuck is marked MILLERS FALLS CO. MILLERS FALLS.MASS.PAT'D JAN.10.1911
FEB.25.1011


A Barber Improved Ratchet Brace, 1879-1947
 

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Speaking of great British tools... I noticed the coo on my favorite caulking gun...

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Got it two years ago after hours of caulking with ****** plastic or chicom tin guns.

Nice clean beads and regular pressure. No more cramps in my hands.


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Arrived today (Canada to Oz; 6 days) - a Millers Falls No. 34 ratcheting bit brace, with ring selector.

6 inch sweep

Chuck is marked MILLERS FALLS CO. MILLERS FALLS.MASS.PAT'D JAN.10.1911
FEB.25.1011


A Barber Improved Ratchet Brace, 1879-1947

Nice find. Forgive my curiosity, do you use your tools to earn a living or you're a hobbyist?
 

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I have those guns in both Green and Red, the build is identical to eachother and identical to yours so im assuming they all come from the same factory. Agreed, by far the nicest silicone gun i've used.

Rich
 

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Put the fein multimaster through Some really heavy work today.

We are redoing the downstairs and removing all the moldings (not sure what they are called in English) between the wall and the ceiling.

These:

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I was hoping they were plaster but alas the were a lime mortar. Dusty nasty stuff that wore out two HSS saws on the fein.

Fein held up admirably. Solid hour of continuous work at max capacity. Too much dust but the motor barely heated up.

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Hand chiseled out any remaining ridges the filled with filler.

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Plasterer is coming in to redo all the wall and ceiling finishes. So my job today was prep work.

Back to the fein. Really surprised it held up as well as it did with all the dust. Never slowed for a second or heated up noticeably.

This was much tougher material than wood or drywall.

Best bit I can still feel my hands. Yes there's vibration but very little. For such prolonged use more vibration would not have been nice.

Like I mentioned I wore the teeth off of two original wide fein saw blades.


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Some of my wooden molding planes, mostly English and Scottish with some good old American iron thrown in. Also shown is an English Coffin Scraper Plane. most are mid to late 19th Century and they all still get used monthly.
 

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Things pretty much haven't changed then. Could it also be a regional thing, where there's no distribution network in northern Germany? Whatever the case may be, you have an abundance of other German tool brands to fill your workshop. :thumbup:
I guess it might also have something to do with the broad range of Wiha/Wera compared to others. They offer everything in bits/drivers even odd profiles like "Hios" or "halfmoon" bits etc...
...and what does that thing do?
it rolls metal :)
You can make rings for example or reproduce your rusted rocker panel of your car or build your own cherry bomb/muffler.
In some cases you can crimp it, gently tap it flat with a hammer, crimp again, etc and get the same result.
A good idea ! I will try this next time !
Those plastic CV boots are a pain. I always remove the entire shaft and do the job in a bench vice if it has a plastic boot.
...also easier to get that circlip out there that way...
Sometimes you can loosen the 4 bolts at the back of the hub and air hammer them to get the unit bearing out. They do seize with corrosion but i've replaced more hubs due to seized top pinch bolts than seized unit bearings.
Another good idea ! I will suggest the use of an air hammer the next time !
Ford Transits (with steel hubs and steel unit bearings) are much worse for seizing up and becoming inseparable.
Luckily not as common in my region. VW, Benz or Iveco here...
The Queen is doing alright.
:D:rocker:
A Bob Stapler bought on the weekend from a yard sale.
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That´s really old ! (Before 1945)
Facom JET tool boxes at a NJ car show....
and a Häagen Dazs tool box :D













some sanding belts for my Bosch bandfile
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Some of my wooden molding planes, mostly English and Scottish with some good old American iron thrown in. Also shown is an English Coffin Scraper Plane. most are mid to late 19th Century and they all still get used monthly.

Amazing stuff:drool:

I have some plane but nothing like this collection, you could do everything with these tools.

Thanks for sharing
 

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Put the fein multimaster through Some really heavy work today.

We are redoing the downstairs and removing all the moldings (not sure what they are called in English) between the wall and the ceiling.

These:

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I was hoping they were plaster but alas the were a lime mortar. Dusty nasty stuff that wore out two HSS saws on the fein.

Fein held up admirably. Solid hour of continuous work at max capacity. Too much dust but the motor barely heated up.

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Hand chiseled out any remaining ridges the filled with filler.

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Plasterer is coming in to redo all the wall and ceiling finishes. So my job today was prep work.

Back to the fein. Really surprised it held up as well as it did with all the dust. Never slowed for a second or heated up noticeably.

This was much tougher material than wood or drywall.

Best bit I can still feel my hands. Yes there's vibration but very little. For such prolonged use more vibration would not have been nice.

Like I mentioned I wore the teeth off of two original wide fein saw blades.


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I thought the wide blades are for wood, no? :headscrat
 

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Some of my wooden molding planes, mostly English and Scottish with some good old American iron thrown in. Also shown is an English Coffin Scraper Plane. most are mid to late 19th Century and they all still get used monthly.


Thanks for sharing....those are amazing! ...heirloom tools?









I guess it might also have something to do with the broad range of Wiha/Wera compared to others. They offer everything in bits/drivers even odd profiles like "Hios" or "halfmoon" bits etc...
it rolls metal :)
You can make rings for example or reproduce your rusted rocker panel of your car or build your own cherry bomb/muffler.

Well, there's one thing certain....the competition is definitely pretty tight in Germany for all the screw-driving tool makers.

Ahhh, icic. Or maybe make your own bullet style toolbox :D

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and these two on the weekend, another yard sale I was passing.
Actually bought 2 of the AC/DC power supplies, one for a mate.

SEM was an Australian manufacturer. Classic laboratory items - magnetic stirrers and such.
 

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Nice find. Forgive my curiosity, do you use your tools to earn a living or you're a hobbyist?


hobbyist. Always been a tool bloke.


Yet another arrival last week via ebay, a Tough bit brace, Australian made, alloy handles. Tough was a company in Perth Western Australia. I have never seen a bit brace from them before. I do have pedestal drill, a morticer, and 2 bench drill presses from them as well.
 

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I thought the wide blades are for wood, no? :headscrat

or soft metals... I tried the masonry wheel but it kept gumming up with lime stone dust. Eventually the wood / soft metal proved to be the quickest even though the wore out.

The full metal blades are to narrow to make any progress. I'm not faulting the quality of the blade at all. I've used and abused them before without issue. It was more to prove a point with regards to the toughness of the limestone mortar.
 

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or soft metals... I tried the masonry wheel but it kept gumming up with lime stone dust. Eventually the wood / soft metal proved to be the quickest even though the wore out.

The full metal blades are to narrow to make any progress. I'm not faulting the quality of the blade at all. I've used and abused them before without issue. It was more to prove a point with regards to the toughness of the limestone mortar.
That is true actually, all the kind of stones are very hard to the tooling even the normal bricks. They act like an abrasive and burn/ temper the steel.

You could have used a karcher machine to cooling down and built an internal pool in the living room at the same time[emoji16]

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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

that never ever happens to me

I can't even find nice **** on marktplaats, everything is overpriced or ****
 

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hmm.. that's not 15 euros, wrong color , wrong badge ..

and my german tools will rust inside quicker

thats pretty... gotta build my new shed before I can fit one of those. The curses of living in the "randstad" and having no space.

For those non dutch people the "randstad" is the area between Amsterdam (north), rotterdam (south) and Utrecht (east). Randstad roughly translates to annexed city and refers to the fact that between these three major city's all space has been largely filled in by buildings and habitation. Creating a sort of major city in the process.

It is the most heavily populated section of holland and space comes at a premium.

Back to tool boxes. I still want one. Preferably a hazet - snapon - facom - in no particular order. 26 inches plus minus. Other contenders beta - gedore - any good brand.

I have searches running for these on Marktplaats hoping a secondhand one will come up.
 

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A while ago i bought a whole load of Hazet stuff from a guy on there. It all appears brand new and since it was priced so well i bought almost everything he was selling. (Special sockets.)

on of the nice things about marktplaats is being able to save searches. It sends you an email once a day for all new results. Meaning if you have patience something will come up.
 

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thats pretty... gotta build my new shed before I can fit one of those. The curses of living in the "randstad" and having no space.

You can find the cabinets at Hornbach, this is the biggest, 200E + the hooks 30-40E, the only bad thing about it is the provided mounting hardware... I think it's really impossible to mount it properly using original hardware.

It will save a lot of space even with the not so deep cabinets
 

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on of the nice things about marktplaats is being able to save searches. It sends you an email once a day for all new results. Meaning if you have patience something will come up.

But it's too slow. I get the results a day later and sometimes you have to be very quick in responding. You have to be very patience with Marktplaats.:willy_nil
 

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Back to tool boxes. I still want one. Preferably a hazet - snapon - facom - in no particular order. 26 inches plus minus. Other contenders beta - gedore - any good brand.

I have searches running for these on Marktplaats hoping a secondhand one will come up.

HNCDM - I've found the best way to get a secondhand Snap On box is from my Snap On dealer! They seem to get a lot of boxes traded in as guys upsize, and sometimes repossessions.

My own box was the latter - half retail price, still on the pallet, and still covered in plastic. Dealer usually has at least 6 used boxes at any one time, but you need to arrange to vist him at his base as he obviously can't keep 'em all on the truck!

Facom Jet boxes appear quite often on special deals from Facom - worth finding a dealer and finding out what's being discounted. The deals usually last a year!
 

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HNCDM - I've found the best way to get a secondhand Snap On box is from my Snap On dealer! They seem to get a lot of boxes traded in as guys upsize, and sometimes repossessions.

My own box was the latter - half retail price, still on the pallet, and still covered in plastic. Dealer usually has at least 6 used boxes at any one time, but you need to arrange to vist him at his base as he obviously can't keep 'em all on the truck!

Facom Jet boxes appear quite often on special deals from Facom - worth finding a dealer and finding out what's being discounted. The deals usually last a year!


that doesn't apply in NL, I bet I can buy a brand new facom trolley (WITH TOOLS !!!) for half the price of a slightly larger SO one
 
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