Tools from the old world

[RMeijer]

@ Snake, nice tool box, i like the color, something different than standard blue ones.
Why do you like these types of toolboxes so much?
I see you are a student as well ?

 

[Pope88]

They are from scooter-center, i will take a look at motointegrator

You got me interested in toolboxes like the one you got from Beta, where did you buy it? And are the boxes from unior any good? (I was looking at a shorter model)

 

[Snakevz]

RMeijer- Yeah, I'm still student I often need tool's outside workshop/garage (helping friends, working in "cottage" etc) and as I still live with parents, dad is from time to time in garage - most of the time using wrong tools for the job he is doing So this way he has access to older tools inherited from grandpa, but these in toolboxes remain safe

Pope- Oh, I see that I have some good influence here I got it from here
www.lumbertrans.com
They're importer of Beta tools for Croatia, great service
And this box is on discount, bought it for 50€ shipped
Regarding Unior boxes, I've had my hands on them only in store, they look well made but seem to be very stiff. Maybe it get's better with some time, oil and load in them [emoji14]

 

[Monte]

Bottom is African.

possible....

Bottom one is South Africa.

maybe...

Agree

perhaps...



ok you were right

Can anyone recommend a German brand/name for oil for ratchets? A few of mine are getting a little rough so I want to re-lube them. I can't get Superlube or Marvel Mystery Oil here in Germany so I need a German equivalent. I can get anti-seize and gear oil easily but it isn't my favorite. What do you guys use on the German market? Thanks.

e.g. Stahlwille recommends "light machine oil" for their ratchets.

Gedore same as Stahlwille same as VBW or different??

at least Stahlwilly and VBW are the same.

 

[Monte]

Shinano SI-2202 disc sander for Roloc discs.

I found it in the UK. I think their prices are acceptable for "Made in Japan" products.

content:

ergonomic and light:

speed dial:

It´s a nice little tool and surprisingly silent.
made a short video with a noise comparison:
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[node105]

Shinano SI-2202 disc sander for Roloc discs.

I found it in the UK. I think their prices are acceptable for "Made in Japan" products.

I have had my 2201 2" for about 5 years, handy little tool. The disc mount screws are prone to shearing off prematurely, if the disc gets bogged down in difficult areas.

 

[node105]

This is a Heuer 150mm which i bought for only 20 euros, was very lucky with that one. I used an angle grinder with a steel brush to clean of the old paint and schmooh.
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NICE find. Mine (new) cost 20x that shipped to Oz.

Rather than a steel brush, find some woven ceramic discs for crud removal, faster and very little impact on the steel surface . Nylon brushes (embedded ceramic) on a drill also work well.


schmooh, I can guess, but haven't encountered the term before. Local vernacular?

 

[Beenman]

possible....
maybe...
perhaps...



ok you were right

Somehow I missed this discussion, sorry don't always get onto GJ.

I'm willing to put a month's wages that the bottom spanner is not made here in SA. We have a matte high quality finish like the German one, and our Gedore spanners generally have the SA mark on them. I have recently seen some Gedore tools arrive here from either India or South America (if memory serves) and they had that very shiny finish like the bottom spanner.

I can affirm what Krokodil said earlier in this thread, Gedore tools made in SA are of the highest quality and serve in one of the harshest environments in the world without problems.

 

[djfergus]

And this is my favorite ratchet. Not made in Germany, but I think Eastern Europe. The sockets I am not sure about.
This set is perfect because it is very compact and doesn't rattle in my toolbox.
The ratchet is very thin but a little bit longer than standard 1/4", so you can apply more force.
I have used this set heavily for a year now, especially for working on vintage Vespas.
I can't imagine any other set that would fit my needs better.

I have the 1/2" version. One flaw is its detent ball, which is too tall to work well with sockets without clearance hole. If not aligned with the clearance hole of the socket, the QR button will keeep recessed! Aweful.

 

[losvre]

e.g. Stahlwille recommends "light machine oil" for their ratchets.

at least Stahlwilly and VBW are the same.

The latest Stahlwille ratchets with 80 teeth have grease in them from factory, I have seen them in the shop.

It looked like very light colour and very "thin".

I ma sure that some light grease with MoS would be ideal since the ratchet subjected to pressure loads between the teeth.

 

[RMeijer]

Can anyone recommend a German brand/name for oil for ratchets? A few of mine are getting a little rough so I want to re-lube them. I can't get Superlube or Marvel Mystery Oil here in Germany so I need a German equivalent. I can get anti-seize and gear oil easily but it isn't my favorite. What do you guys use on the German market? Thanks.

Maybe Ballistol or is it not viscous enough?

RMeijer- Yeah, I'm still student I often need tool's outside workshop/garage (helping friends, working in "cottage" etc) and as I still live with parents, dad is from time to time in garage - most of the time using wrong tools for the job he is doing So this way he has access to older tools inherited from grandpa, but these in toolboxes remain safe

Nice! I am a student mechanical engineering and i like to do some project in my spare time such as renovating vises and recycling HDPE by melting it into other forms such as hammer heads, i also work with some friends on a home made caravan, pretty cool. Making things myself is very satisfying . And it's always nice to get knowledge of which tool serves for which application

NICE find. Mine (new) cost 20x that shipped to Oz.

Rather than a steel brush, find some woven ceramic discs for crud removal, faster and very little impact on the steel surface . Nylon brushes (embedded ceramic) on a drill also work well.


schmooh, I can guess, but haven't encountered the term before. Local vernacular?

It's thick steel so it can last a bit and the threaded rod was in a good state.
I actually misspelled that term, it is 'schmoo', a term used by the youtuber AvE (worth searching very interesting videos).
Schmoo:
https://www.avespeak.com/index.php?title=Schmoo

 

[Precivilization]

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I mean to ask, I remember a while back you got some Ruko stuff, and I was wondering if you have given it a try, and whether you have any comments/recommendations as far as quality. I am in need of tap set, drill bits and other similar items, and hesitant between Ruko and Volkel.

That looks compact and nice! Japan makes some decent quality tools. Congrats.

 

[RMeijer]

@ Beenman, i am the proud owner of something South Afican:

 

[Krokodil]

Beenman, if that Gedore wrench Monte posted is the one I'm thinking off, it is definately from here. I mailed it to him. I was also a bit surprised with the gloss finish. I guess we don't perceive them to have a high gloss, unless placed next to a German specimen.

 

[losvre]

Hi guys,

Could anyone confirm if this Koken bit is round all along its length or some part of the hex is protruding/ Extended from the socket part? I need to cut and use the bit in a confined space.

4020- M10 120 mm spline /XZN
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Thanks!

In case you are still wondering


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[Monte]

I have had my 2201 2" for about 5 years, handy little tool. The disc mount screws are prone to shearing off prematurely, if the disc gets bogged down in difficult areas.

i bought it to not run into problems.....but maybe i should upgrade to made in Taiwan

Somehow I missed this discussion, sorry don't always get onto GJ.
I'm willing to put a month's wages that the bottom spanner is not made here in SA. We have a matte high quality finish like the German one, and our Gedore spanners generally have the SA mark on them. I have recently seen some Gedore tools arrive here from either India or South America (if memory serves) and they had that very shiny finish like the bottom spanner.
I can affirm what Krokodil said earlier in this thread, Gedore tools made in SA are of the highest quality and serve in one of the harshest environments in the world without problems.

I will send you my bank account data via pm

The latest Stahlwille ratchets with 80 teeth have grease in them from factory, I have seen them in the shop.
It looked like very light colour and very "thin".
I ma sure that some light grease with MoS would be ideal since the ratchet subjected to pressure loads between the teeth.

I think Facom use thin (white) grease too.

That looks compact and nice! Japan makes some decent quality tools. Congrats.

they do !

Beenman, if that Gedore wrench Monte posted is the one I'm thinking off, it is definately from here. I mailed it to him. I was also a bit surprised with the gloss finish. I guess we don't perceive them to have a high gloss, unless placed next to a German specimen.

btw. thanks again !














some cutting discs for the 12 volt Bosch angle grinder

 

[upgrading]

Never heard of these guys before.
Hultafors.
Pretty freaky made in Sweden hammers.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZFEU0W/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[node105]

It's thick steel so it can last a bit and the threaded rod was in a good state.

It's not the thickness that is at issue, it is the surface finish. The ceramic discs give a really nice fine brushed look, whereas steel wire brushes tend to burnish and scratch.

They also remove paint much faster, and offer far greater depth control. Two of the attached pics show removing just the galvanised layer on some RHS for my shed rafters. Also a pic of a lathe face plate for a drill press table cleaned up.

As part of the armoury for restoring old tools and machinery, ceramics are the ducks guts.

 

[node105]

Never heard of these guys before.
Hultafors.
Pretty freaky made in Sweden hammers.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZFEU0W/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Dictum is a a source

 

[Pope88]

Usag pliers from local ads, there is no coo on them??

Also some of my work tools, pb swiss hammer, holex hex keys (germany), sharp calc, mitutoyo caliper

 

[Precivilization]

Usag pliers from local ads, there is no coo on them??

Also some of my work tools, pb swiss hammer, holex hex keys (germany), sharp calc, mitutoyo caliper

Nice stuff. USAG doesn't disclose the coo, except the stuff they make in France that is shared between them and Facom.

 

[losvre]

Who makes these knives for Gedore? It seema they have bought lots of manufacturers.


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[ultgar]

Nice stuff. USAG doesn't disclose the coo, except the stuff they make in France that is shared between them and Facom.

COO comes in on the invoices from Italy but they have asked me not to disclose COO on my site as I do with Facom. I can probably answer any USAG questions if you email me directly.

 

[Monte]

since it´s about 30 degree celsius (86 F) in the garage i got me this noname ventilator...
(Made in P.R.C. ...People´s Republic of Canada ?? ) Couldn´t find a european made one....if someone knows something...

the new ventilator.....

....and a cold drink.....priceless

 

[Precivilization]

....and a cold drink.....priceless

Did you add some of that primer to your drink?



Last week in pictures

 

[hautpot]

nice tools Precivilization! Those USAG for automotive hose claps?

PB Swiss Japan tools
Knipex crimpers
Knipex XL circlips

 

[chrissalas1]

Facom rs.161-2

 

[beefcake]

Facom rs.161-2

What do you think of those ratchets?

 

[chrissalas1]

What do you think of those ratchets?

They are very light.The mechanism is a little stiff and if i put a socket on the drive end the head don't wobble.The 1/2 is very tight on tolerances.

 

[losvre]

Please recommend XZN, Torx and Hex bits lije the one below, from reputable manufacturer[emoji16] [emoji106]

Thanks!!!

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[Precivilization]

nice tools Precivilization! Those USAG for automotive hose claps?

WOW, very nice stuff, so many crimpers . The USAG is indeed a hose clamp pliers.

 

[Monte]

Did you add some of that primer to your drink?

yes, but i figured out it´s better to sniff it than to drink it

Last week in pictures

ARS pruning saw

 

[losvre]

Please recommend XZN, Torx and Hex bits lije the one below, from reputable manufacturer[emoji16] [emoji106]

Thanks!!!

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[Beenman]

I will send you my bank account data via pm

Not yet, I see that Made in SA tag stuck to every Gedore product sold in SA, even when not made in SA. I know also the Gedore SA made spanners don't have that long rib down the neck like in your picture.

 

[Beenman]

Beenman, if that Gedore wrench Monte posted is the one I'm thinking off, it is definately from here. I mailed it to him. I was also a bit surprised with the gloss finish. I guess we don't perceive them to have a high gloss, unless placed next to a German specimen.

Hi Krokodil, Gedore SA seem to be importing some of their wrenches from elsewhere and putting on the "made in SA" labels. I have found a few of their items clearly not from here but with the local tags attached (even if they come from Europe).

 

[Monte]

Not yet, I see that Made in SA tag stuck to every Gedore product sold in SA, even when not made in SA. I know also the Gedore SA made spanners don't have that long rib down the neck like in your picture.

thats not good...












some tools from a garage buddy:

quick comparison with my BL Bosch. I think i made the right decision

 

[Precivilization]

I got this stuff a year and half ago but never got around to post the pictures, and now that I am in the spirit of sharing I thought to share with my brethren. These tools are all acquired via the knowledge this forum has provided, and some are not as shiny as you are seeing them, but they are still pretty clean. Thank you all for the knowledge and expertise rendered. Sorry for the too many pictures.






Believe it or not, this beat up looking Hazet VDE screwdriver is actually brand new. Perhaps 20 years old or older?... I wonder if it's safe to use

 

[Tomasz_W-wa]

Precivilization
Cool tools, as you have something else with Hazet to put pics.
I greet the Hazet geezer

 

[IWANTBLUE]

I got this stuff a year and half ago but never got around to post the pictures, and now that I am in the spirit of sharing I thought to share with my brethren. These tools are all acquired via the knowledge this forum has provided, and some are not as shiny as you are seeing them, but they are still pretty clean. Thank you all for the knowledge and expertise rendered. Sorry for the too many pictures.






Believe it or not, this beat up looking Hazet VDE screwdriver is actually brand new. Perhaps 20 years old or older?... I wonder if it's safe to use

Is the electrical screwdriver just s bleached from a shop window? ?

Love the Hazet long 1/4" extention but also the T-bar ratchet that could be very handy! Nice haul

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[Bogdan M.]