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Hi Guys,

Here is my recent German acquisition:

Knipex 10" Pliers Wrench with 15 Degree Handles (Made in Germany)

I purchased this Knipex pliers from HomeDepot.com on Cyber Monday for about $64 shipped to my local Home Depot. Here are some pictures:

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Finally! :D French made Stanley FatMax pliers are already in Ukraine. At the moment it's just needle-nose pliers, but I hope it will be more to come :thumbup:



The pliers are very well made, with comfortable and pleasant to touch two-component handles. High quality forged chrome steel, lacquered finish to resist corrosion, attractive design, good ergonomics. Stanley logo and FatMax inscription on the handles are embossed. AFAIK the new line of FatMax pliers is made by Bost. I know about this brand (anyhow, I'm selling a lot of FatMax screwdrivers :D), but I never dealt with Bost branded tools. However, I would very much like to... But I did not receive any response from their export department :(

Well, the old Taiwanese FatMax pliers looks okay too. At least until you see French made ones :bounce: They also have good ergonomics, but the quality of the finish and handles is somewhat poorer.



Now check them lying together.



And last but not least, price level remained the same as Taiwan made pliers. So France is indisputable winner :cool:
 

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Finally! :D French made Stanley FatMax pliers are already in Ukraine. At the moment it's just needle-nose pliers, but I hope it will be more to come [emoji106]



The pliers are very well made, with comfortable and pleasant to touch two-component handles. High quality forged chrome steel, lacquered finish to resist corrosion, attractive design, good ergonomics. Stanley logo and FatMax inscription on the handles are embossed. AFAIK the new line of FatMax pliers is made by Bost. I know about this brand (anyhow, I'm selling a lot of FatMax screwdrivers :D), but I never dealt with Bost branded tools. However, I would very much like to... But I did not receive any response from their export department :(

Well, the old Taiwanese FatMax pliers looks okay too. At least until you see French made ones :bounce: They also have good ergonomics, but the quality of the finish and handles is somewhat poorer.



Now check them lying together.



And last but not least, price level remained the same as Taiwan made pliers. So France is indisputable winner :cool:
Hello Cynical huckster,

Very interesting information but I know only hand tools made in France.

I am wondering if French make any power tools or they buy from elsewhere.

For example, any made in France drills, grinders, saws, etc.??

Thanks for the feedback [emoji106]



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Hello Cynical huckster,

Very interesting information but I know only hand tools made in France.

I am wondering if French make any power tools or they buy from elsewhere.

For example, any made in France drills, grinders, saws, etc.??

Thanks for the feedback [emoji106]

Hello losvre!

Speaking of French made professional grade power tools, I immediately start thinking of SPIT. They declare that 95% of their products are made in Europe. SPIT has production facilities in France, Italy, Germany and Belgium.

Here in Ukraine we had a company that tried to sell SPIT tools. Alas, this attempt was unsuccessful due to the high price level. Only SPIT nailers remained on the Ukrainian market, but not drills, not rotary hammers, not angle grinders, etc.
 

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Not a direct comparison, but my older (2+years) 10.8V versions of that light are silent in operation.

Mine is silent.

Thanks for confirming.
Along with similar responses in the Bosch thread it seems that I have a defective unit as all others seem to be silent.
Bosch are going to collect the item apparently, so we'll see what they think.
 

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Hello losvre!

Speaking of French made professional grade power tools, I immediately start thinking of SPIT. They declare that 95% of their products are made in Europe. SPIT has production facilities in France, Italy, Germany and Belgium.

Here in Ukraine we had a company that tried to sell SPIT tools. Alas, this attempt was unsuccessful due to the high price level. Only SPIT nailers remained on the Ukrainian market, but not drills, not rotary hammers, not angle grinders, etc.

Thank you!

I will investigate the SPIT company and products.
 

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Anyone ould suggest a very good head lamp?

I have seen the HAZET Hazet 1979N-35 below with setting of 280lumen/ 3h or or 56Lumen/ 15h and takes 3 AAA batteries. cost 60 euros.

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Anyone ould suggest a very good head lamp?

I have seen the HAZET Hazet 1979N-35 below with setting of 280lumen/ 3h or or 56Lumen/ 15h and takes 3 AAA batteries. cost 60 euros.

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Hazet head lamp looks quite the same as led lenser. Led lenser used to be good, i don’t know what is the quality these days. Pezl is another good one.
 

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Some new arrivals:

Elora stubby double ring wrenches(from amazon) it says w-germany.. I don’t know if they are old stock or do elora still mark their wrenches w-germany...

Hazet brake bleeder wrench(i know, was pretty expensive :))

Hazet open double end wrench(comparison to older model)
 

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Some new arrivals:

Elora stubby double ring wrenches(from amazon) it says w-germany.. I don’t know if they are old stock or do elora still mark their wrenches w-germany...

As far as I can trust the Elora catalogue, they mark their double ring wrenches as "W.-Germany", "Germany" or just "Chrom Vanadium". Sometimes they just mark the size, and nothing more.
 

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As far as I can trust the Elora catalogue, they mark their double ring wrenches as "W.-Germany", "Germany" or just "Chrom Vanadium". Sometimes they just mark the size, and nothing more.


Thanks for the info. The older elora wrenches and sockets that i own, is real good(maybe just a little bit under hazet and stahlwille for what comes to chromes quality or thickness) but overall real durable stuff.
 
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Finally bought this awesome tool! Stihl TSA 230. Bought it as the kit with the battery and charger. Got it for a good deal and got two additional blades thrown in.
nice machine ! :pimpflash

Finally! :D French made Stanley FatMax pliers are already in Ukraine. At the moment it's just needle-nose pliers, but I hope it will be more to come :thumbup:
Thanks for the pics +info ! Time to check the Stanley dealer ! :)
Back in the days there were "Made in W.Germany" Stanley pliers too....


btw. pliers: These are new to me: :)

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Hello losvre!

Speaking of French made professional grade power tools, I immediately start thinking of SPIT. They declare that 95% of their products are made in Europe. SPIT has production facilities in France, Italy, Germany and Belgium.
I think most (all ?) Spit power tools are rebadged from Kress, Bosch, Eibenstock and Starmix.
for example:
http://www.kress-elektrik.de/Elektr..._pi1[catUid]=31&tx_commerce_pi1[showUid]=1550
http://www.itw-spit.de/spit-218/
(ok switch is different)
This is 100% Bosch:
http://www.itw-spit.de/produkte/schrauber/spit-sdi-105-li/


Swedish design, but where was it made ?
No COO anywhere.
One of Monte's numerous Asian factories perhaps ?
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If a package says "Swedish design" it`s 99,9% sure not from Sweden... :lol::lol::lol:
Otherwise it simply would say "made in Sweden"...

[QUOTE="losvre, post: 6869354, member: 105702"]Anyone ould suggest a very good head lamp?[/QUOTE]
[url]www.princetontec.com[/url] (made in USA)
[url]www.lupine.de/eng[/url] (made in Germany)
[url]http://lagolight.com[/url] (m. in France)
[url]www.petzl.com[/url] (some m. in France)
















[URL="http://www.ochsenkopf.com/en/"]Ochsenkopf[/URL] forestry axe "Rhineland pattern".

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Monte that is an awesome looking axe ! Like the guard that comes down from the axe head , saves the handle . Also like how the head is secured to the handle !
scarrylarry
 

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nice machine ! :pimpflash

btw. pliers: These are new to me: :)

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This one scream NWS or am I wrong? :bounce:


I think most (all ?) Spit power tools are rebadged from Kress, Bosch, Eibenstock and Starmix.
for example:
http://www.kress-elektrik.de/ This ...w-spit.de/produkte/schrauber/spit-sdi-105-li/

It seems you are right

www.princetontec.com (made in USA)
www.lupine.de/eng (made in Germany)
http://lagolight.com (m. in France)
www.petzl.com (some m. in France)

Thank you Monte!

Ochsenkopf forestry axe "Rhineland pattern".

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Very niceee!!!

Is 1600 g head good enough to cut a tree down? lets say 30-40 cm diameter?

I have someones tree pushing my fence:lol_hitti

Thanks!!!
 
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Thanks for the pics +info ! Time to check the Stanley dealer ! :)

You're right. New French made Stanley pliers are absolutely worth it! More to come, as I expected :rocker:



btw. pliers: These are new to me: :)

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Nice NWS cutting pliers :D

I think most (all ?) Spit power tools are rebadged from Kress, Bosch, Eibenstock and Starmix.

Well, I'm not really into SPIT. I sell mostly DeWalt and Bosch power tools, Stanley sometimes :cool: Anyhow, SPIT nailers that I saw were made in France.
 

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Guys,

Do you know if the following thread restorer actually works for both inside and outside threads as advetised?

HAZET 2126
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Depends on what you want to use it on, you use the bits at the end for internal threads, but it wont fit in small diameter holes and the middle part for external threads
 

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NWS to the rescue MONTE.:willy_nil

They work with Zenten, and I can now buy a pair of Zenten cutters in my favorite red colour.

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hautpot,

Long time no see! Nice cutters by the way.

Do you think the Japanese scissors are better than the German/ Italian ones?

You can send me pm if you don't want to upset Monte:lol_hitti
 

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hey Losvre! holiday season here! not on here as much!

Hmmm... in regards to your scissors inquiry, depends on application.

I prefer PAUL (DE) and KAI (JP) for handicrafts like cutting paper. OLFA (JP) always felt a tad flimsy in my hands.

My Aunt, who I bought most of the scissors for, really likes the Paul scissors.

For Kitchen use I really like the Premax (IT) style. My house in Taiwan has a few pairs, and I wish I brought one with me instead of my Fiskars orange.

Perhaps check out Whiteley as well. they are made in UK but I have no idea if the quality has stayed the same.
 

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Re: Tools from the old world Hazet Nr 240a

Hello, I have the same Hazet Nr 240a set which now I know it is from 1928-1933. Do you know what is worth? I am only missing the 12mm socket. Everything else is complete. Case is gold rusted. Rachet and other sockets are in good working condition.
 

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Anyone ould suggest a very good head lamp?

I have seen the HAZET Hazet 1979N-35 below with setting of 280lumen/ 3h or or 56Lumen/ 15h and takes 3 AAA batteries. cost 60 euros.
You might consider buying one from a company that specialises in flashlights.

I have been quite impressed by the performance and build quality of lights from Nitecore. They have a wide range of headlamps, but one with a similar external alkaline battery pack and price is the HA40. $60 amazon.com, €68 amazon.de.

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hey Losvre! holiday season here! not on here as much!

Hmmm... in regards to your scissors inquiry, depends on application.

I prefer PAUL (DE) and KAI (JP) for handicrafts like cutting paper. OLFA (JP) always felt a tad flimsy in my hands.

My Aunt, who I bought most of the scissors for, really likes the Paul scissors.

For Kitchen use I really like the Premax (IT) style. My house in Taiwan has a few pairs, and I wish I brought one with me instead of my Fiskars orange.

Perhaps check out Whiteley as well. they are made in UK but I have no idea if the quality has stayed the same.

Hey hautpop,

many thanks for the feedback:thumbup:

What about nail cutting scissors, especially toe? I have seen the ones below from Keiba and I know there are a few German, Italian and Japanese also produce similar ones.

https://www.keiba-tool.com/nail/

Thank you!
 

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You might consider buying one from a company that specialises in flashlights.

I have been quite impressed by the performance and build quality of lights from Nitecore. They have a wide range of headlamps, but one with a similar external alkaline battery pack and price is the HA40. $60 amazon.com, €68 amazon.de.

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lygi2e.jpg

Reed Prince,

Thank you!

From the little I read about Nitecore they are seem of very good quality.
 

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I’m looking for a short 1/2 inch impact sockets. I have hazet 900sk 13,17,19 and 21mm and thats all the sizes they made as far as I know. Would be nice to have all the sizes from 10-20mm...Anyone know if there is european manifacturer that makes them or japanese? Standard short impact sockets are around 38mm long and the hazet 900sk are 29mm long...sometimes the 9-10mm makes a difference... I’ve noticed that nowdays if the deep impact socket doesn’t fit i always use the 900sk instead of the regular one....
 

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I’m looking for a short 1/2 inch impact sockets. I have hazet 900sk 13,17,19 and 21mm and thats all the sizes they made as far as I know. Would be nice to have all the sizes from 10-20mm...Anyone know if there is european manifacturer that makes them or japanese? Standard short impact sockets are around 38mm long and the hazet 900sk are 29mm long...sometimes the 9-10mm makes a difference... I’ve noticed that nowdays if the deep impact socket doesn’t fit i always use the 900sk instead of the regular one....

I know these don't meet the request of origin of manufacturer, but it is a nice set in a foam tray that meets your other specifications of 28mm long....

https://www.cpooutlets.com/m7-might...MIov_a8t_11wIVAkwNCh2v5wBUEAQYASABEgKUoPD_BwE

http://www.kingtonyamerica.com/prod...owid=0&ktkind=&kind=&id=&sid=887&formsearch=1

Edited: just noticed while browsing on ebay that these come out to $52 shipped through the CPO store using the pholiday20 promotion through 12/9.
 
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I’m looking for a short 1/2 inch impact sockets. I have hazet 900sk 13,17,19 and 21mm and thats all the sizes they made as far as I know. Would be nice to have all the sizes from 10-20mm...Anyone know if there is european manifacturer that makes them or japanese? Standard short impact sockets are around 38mm long and the hazet 900sk are 29mm long...sometimes the 9-10mm makes a difference... I’ve noticed that nowdays if the deep impact socket doesn’t fit i always use the 900sk instead of the regular one....
Koken for sure
http://www.kokenusa.com/products/model/1261

You may also try,
impactsocket.co.uk
Momento from Sweden



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Today i got these two for 50% off.

90 EUR instead of 180 EUR
and
50 EUR instead of 100 EUR
 

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