Tools from the old world

[node105]

Re: Maun Parallel Jaw Pliers

Don’t panic!

As far as I’m aware all the Maun pliers are made in England, and have been for decades, relatively unchanged!

They’re very useful tools. I use mine extensively for everything from assembly work, and there are no better tools for gripping small pins!

I have my towel Dave!

I had always assumed they were still made in the UK, but who knows these days. If they are, why they don't use that in branding and labelling beats me. I emailed them elder today to find out.

I like Maun, always have. I have had Maun single size wad punched for 50 years or so. Always liked that kit they make with a driver and exchangable cutters. A mate has one I have used numerous times.

 

[Dave455]

Re: Maun Parallel Jaw Pliers

I have my towel Dave!

I had always assumed they were still made in the UK, but who knows these days. If they are, why they don't use that in branding and labelling beats me. I emailed them elder today to find out.

I like Maun, always have. I have had Maun single size wad punched for 50 years or so. Always liked that kit they make with a driver and exchangable cutters. A mate has one I have used numerous times.

Haha!

I’ll be interested to hear what they have to say. There are some really weird ideas in some British companies these days. Reasons for not putting on the country of origin generally range from not realising the importance, to not caring!

Yes, those wad punch sets are very useful, I use mine a fair deal!

 

[Kasal]

Ega Master tool box and Irega 10 "adjustable wrench

 

[48548]

Ega Master tool box and Irega 10 "adjustable wrench

Nice, I love those side adjustable wrenches

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

 

[mr.lemons]

Picked up another Facom N.38A-12B spanner roll.

Not as nice as the Stahlwille roll that comes with 14s but a step up from the very cheap rolls. Feels a bit like tent or thick raincoat material.

Height is approx 395mm so longest spanner size about 360mm. With shorter spanners you can fold over the top to stop them from falling out when rolled up.

No coo.

 

[mr.lemons]

I know this won't be to many people's taste but does anyone know of a 3/8" extending swivel head ratchet like this but without quick release? Looking for an extending roto with a head like the Toptul in the lower pic. Thanks.

 

[willehaz]

Guys, I need a little help to clarify some things.
Questions are probably trivial, but I have a little experience with power tools...

I bought an old "blue" Bosch drill. It is the same type as the one on photos (i found those photos on the web). I marked buttons with numbers (first photo)
- What the button no 1 serves for?
- Button number 2 is of course the "play button".
- Button number 3, i guess serves to switch the speed (speed I and speed II). Am I right?
- What the button no 4 serves for?
- What the button no 5 serves for? (it also has roman numerals I and II, like the speed button)


Now, the third photo. What those numbers in red circle mean?
Fifth photo? What does it say?

 

[Snakevz]

As it seems it is the hammer drill (combi drill) with 2 speed gearbox.

Nr 1 and 2
Button nr 1 serves to keep button nr 2 (electrical microswitch) in pressed position (max speed/RPM). You need to press button 2 first as much as you can, then press nr 1 (when nr 2 is still pressed), and release the nr 2. Drill should stay in max RPM without holding the button nr 2. To deactivate this, just press nr 2.

Nr 3- as you mentioned, mechanical speed 1 and 2

Nr 4 - switches between regular rotational motion of drill bit (for metal, wood, plastic etc) and impact motion (rotational (cirular) + axial movement (for drilling concrete, bricks etc)).

Nr 5 - no idea, maybe it is written in manual you have.

Hope this helps...

 

[voodooaw]

I also purchased the following:

- Aven (made in Germany) mini tungsten carbide cutters

- EuroTool (made in Switzerland) 3/32" shank mini drill bits

https://flic.kr/p/2j9MTyo

https://flic.kr/p/2j9RTVm

Dave

These Swanstrom cutters are really nice. Got some carbide cutters from Swanstrom, Erem and Gedore (Schmitz made), but like Swanstrom most.

 

[Fedwrench]

I know this won't be to many people's taste but does anyone know of a 3/8" extending swivel head ratchet like this but without quick release? Looking for an extending roto with a head like the Toptul in the lower pic. Thanks.

Sorry, I've never seen a telescoping roto ratchet.

Titan Tools does make some really long ones but, nothing telescoping.

 

[stonesfan68]

As it seems it is the hammer drill (combi drill) with 2 speed gearbox.

Nr 1 and 2
Button nr 1 serves to keep button nr 2 (electrical microswitch) in pressed position (max speed/RPM). You need to press button 2 first as much as you can, then press nr 1 (when nr 2 is still pressed), and release the nr 2. Drill should stay in max RPM without holding the button nr 2. To deactivate this, just press nr 2.

Nr 3- as you mentioned, mechanical speed 1 and 2

Nr 4 - switches between regular rotational motion of drill bit (for metal, wood, plastic etc) and impact motion (rotational (cirular) + axial movement (for drilling concrete, bricks etc)).

Nr 5 - no idea, maybe it is written in manual you have.

Hope this helps...

#5 might be the selector switch for forward and reverse

 

[JBH]

A few pandemic pickups

Facom punch set and punch/chisel sets in cheap plastic trays.
View media item 104187View media item 104937
I didn’t have a complete punch/chisel set and Zoro/Grainger had good pricing (significantly cheaper than Mister Worker) on these two sets. So far I’ve only used the center punch to recess some nails on hardwood stairs, but they seem like a good quality set. Handguard is smaller than one sees on German punches, but it seems to work fine and takes up much less space in a drawer.

I won’t be surprised if the trays break down in the drawer over time…

Money shot for COO snobs.
View media item 104188
Collection: Knipex PW/Cobra set, Knipex plastic combi pliers, NWS scissors, USAG jeweler’s Philips, Wera ball hex precision, Wera “Easter Egg” with Wiha 1/4" hex to 4mm adapters, Gedore 1/4” drive T-ratchet (previously discussed)
View media item 104183
KC Tool had the Wera Easter Egg as tool of the day, so I picked up two more (one for each of the kids) with Wiha micro bit adapters.

Knipex PW and Cobra are well-known quantities. Knipex’s pouch is nicer than I expected.

USAG jeweler’s set was an NOS find. They seem nice, but they taught me how much prefer larger plastic handled precision screwdrivers.

Knipex plastic combis feel like real tools rather than toys, and have already been useful to grab some soft materials.

Wera Kraftform Micro current vs. previous
View media item 104186
New ones are marginally smoother, and the color coding by type is nice. However, the changes do not strike me as so major that one should scrap older Kraftform Micros and buy the new ones. I won’t be doing so.
NWS “Made in Germany” scissors appear identical to VIM/Matco. I bet they come from the same Taiwanese OEM and were mislabeled by the importer (KC Tool gets COO information from customs paperwork) as German
View media item 104184View media item 104185
Wera Kraftform Kompakt 62; Knipex 00 20 16 precision pliers + tweezer set in carrying case
View media item 104942
Another really outstanding Knipex case! I wish they sold it separately, because I’d buy a couple more to keep all of my precision pliers in them. Pliers are the older style (Schmitz-made?) Knipex precision, not the new ones with swoopy engraved Knipex logo. They are as excellent as one would expect. I’ll probably take out one of the cutters and add a bent nose plier.

I picked up Wera KK62 as a portable set, because Wiha’s System 6 set is a little too bulky in practice and KK62 obviously can be expanded with standard bits. Handle has less play than Oplast (Hazet-branded). The bit complement is fairly comprehensive, but like many European market focused kits omits square. I will add size 1 and 2 square bits to it. I might replace the handle with a Turbo, if amazon.de ever processes the damn order (placed almost a month ago, not shipped yet)…

Phoenix Contact Crimpfox Duo 10 (Pressmaster made, but possibly exclusive to PC) ferrule/end sleeve crimper with trapezoidal crimp.
View media item 104939
The multicomponent handle feels really great. The die can be rotated to three positions: straight ahead or 90 deg in either direction. That feature is helpful to crimp ferrules onto wires that have already been run.

The tool is also quite compact. Here’s a size comparison to two Wezag ferrule crimpers (Gedore-branded hex crimp, Wiha-branded square crimp) crimper size comparison: Wezag (branded Gedore) and Pressmaster Embla (Wiha-branded) for size reference.
View media item 104938
Compared to Pressmaster MCT (Facom-branded):
View media item 104940
Why so many ferrule crimpers? Different terminals work best with different crimp shapes. Here, see the crimps from the four tools above.
View media item 104941
While both MCT die and Crimpfox Duo 10 are trapezoidal, CD10’s crimp is more “3D” than MCT, with dimples on the bottom in addition to the undulations on top of the trapezoid. I expect those dimples are certification marks of some sort. Functionally I doubt there is a difference.

Lastly, an American brand set but made in Asia: Matco SAL38 (Reverse Gear) 11mm outer hex + 1/4" drive all-the-sockets (metric, AF, etorx, etorx plus) set in cheap blow-molded case. I like this format and wish all 1/4" drive sockets were this configuration. I do not like Matco’s pricing and the case is inexcusable at the price. However, Matco is the only supplier I could find who offered AF and etorx bits in the 11mm outer hex+1/4” drive configuration. Swivel bit was replaced with more Tesla-appropriate EP10 bit, also from Matco.
View media item 104189
Typical American “tool truck” quality control, unfortunately
View media item 104193They replaced the dupe socket, but at this stupid high price there is no excuse.

Comparison to Facom/USAG (top) and Würth (bottom); interchangability confirmed
View media item 104192
Bit ratchet head has the standard Reverse Gear ratchet that can turn into a T-handle, not smaller head like Würth. Handle is also straight and not angled like Würth’s version.
View media item 104190View media item 104191

 

[Reed Prince]

A couple things arrived from Germany today.

Knipex 87 00 100 Cobra XS pliers

Felo 43899940 Ergonic K bit-ratcheting screwdriver

 

[48548]

A couple things arrived from Germany today.



Knipex 87 00 100 Cobra XS pliers

Felo 43899940 Ergonic K bit-ratcheting screwdriver

I like those knipex......

Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

 

[JBH]

A couple things arrived from Germany today.

Knipex 87 00 100 Cobra XS pliers

Felo 43899940 Ergonic K bit-ratcheting screwdriver

Thoughts on both?

 

[Hytekrednek]

where did you get the knipex from? I need those

 

[jaceq]

Yes, these tiny Cobra pliers are sweet, but I don't see them on Knipex web-page, seems like 87 00 100 does not exist. However I just found them at some Knipex distributor page.
Just 10 cm long, hmmm... looks like I have a new "necessary" purchase

 

[Dave455]

A couple things arrived from Germany today.

Knipex 87 00 100 Cobra XS pliers

I have the 150mm versions.

When I got them, I wasn’t sure if I would use them much as I didn’t think they offered more than regular pliers. In fact, I use them loads. What they do offer, that you don’t always fully realise, is much more gripping strength than regular pliers.

Thing is, the 150mm are not really a pocket tool.

Those really are!

 

[upgrading]

A couple things arrived from Germany today.

Knipex 87 00 100 Cobra XS pliers

Another thing I need that I don't need.

 

[Reed Prince]

Thoughts on both?

The Felo is well made and has very low backdrag. It does weigh 823 grams, with the center of gravity being where the handle meets the metal portion, so it's not going to be something I use all the time. The tool's ability to bend the head 45 or 90 degrees will probably make it ideal for certain situations.


Here are some comparison photos of the Knipex. It has no adjustment button; you open the handles wide to increase the jaw size and an internal ratcheting mechanism allows you to bring the jaws closer together when the handles are closed.

 

[gf0012-aust]

Can anyone tell me what this tool is?

 

[Monte]

' Hi, I say.
I'm aidin, 32, of Iran.
I have a great interest in the old and old wrenches.
I will leave you some pictures of what I have.

Very nice collection !

Thanks for the interesting video series !

Anyone know about Heynen tools? Any relation to Heyco?

Heynen was the lower priced brand of Heyco before Heytec. IIRC Heynen (mostly ? ..all... ?)was made in Germany. Heytec is imported.

...and a 'Genuine Mercedes-Benz Heynen spanner.' Germany on the spanner but India on the packaging.

A explanation would be that the supplier of the wrenches to Mercedes contracted a different company for the supply of the wrenches (now imported instead of german) so they changed the bags/stickers but they might had some old german wrenches in stock sitting in a box which where also packaged in the new bags with the new coo…… ? ….maybe … ….

Hello Monte,
I hope you are well and safe with this Covid situation.

I am looking to buy the Fein Multimaster and ASCM 18 QWS Multivolt.
Are you aware if they release the multi master also in 12-18V some time soon?
Also, do you think that the ASCM with 18V would deliver more torque than the 12V equivalent?
Many thanks and stay safe!

Hi,
Yes I´m still alive … I´m too young to die through ….or with corona…....
I think since they have an extra 12 volt multimaster model that they won´t change anything (soon)…..
Both drills (12 volt + 18 volt) have the same torque specs.
If you look into the spare parts catalog you see that the tools are identical....

This delivered yesterday. Moss Galvanised Wheelbarrow, Check that tyre:
Hot dip galvanised bucket. 1.2mm tray, 190 spot welds, on a 1.6mm reinforcing base. Hardwood handles, 4 ply tyre, ball bearing wheel, 1 inch axle, Solid steel 32 x 8mm legs with 8mm skid wear pads. 4 cu.ft /110L (wet), 6cu.ft / 160L (dry).

Looks very sturdy !!

Needed a tool for pulling weeds, so thought I'd get the Wolf Garten one delivered from amazon.

I think it´s only to “stab” the weed and not to “lever” it out… mine is still good after 3 years….

A couple things arrived from Germany today.
Knipex 87 00 100 Cobra XS pliers

cute

 

[JR 42]

Heynen was the lower priced brand of Heyco before Heytec. IIRC Heynen (mostly ? ..all... ?)was made in Germany. Heytec is imported.

A explanation would be that the supplier of the wrenches to Mercedes contracted a different company for the supply of the wrenches (now imported instead of german) so they changed the bags/stickers but they might had some old german wrenches in stock sitting in a box which where also packaged in the new bags with the new coo…… ? ….maybe … …

FWIW, I just bought a 10mm Heyco combo wrench from KC Tool in Kansas, because it was cheap and I have a compulsion to buy 10mm wrenches. They listed the country of origin as Ireland (see JBH's post very recently about KC Tool and COO from customs docs), and the damn wrench says Heyco Germany on it... so either Heyco is fudging things (my understanding is that Germany's labeling laws are different than ours, and perhaps more flexible in some cases), KC Tool got it wrong, or... ?

https://www.kctoolco.com/heyco-4000100-combination-wrench-metric-10mm/

I honestly hoped it would have Ireland stamped on it somewhere (I lost my old Schrade Imperial super- basic pocket knife, and haven't owned any other Irish- made tools I can recall). I'll try to get a pic up tomorrow- it's functional, not beautiful.

 

[dutchgray]

Can anyone tell me what this tool is?

Floorboard cramp. It grips on a joist and allows you to push floorboards up tight before nailing them down. You really need at least a pair of them. Not a common use tool anymore.

 

[mr.lemons]

Heynen was the lower priced brand of Heyco before Heytec. IIRC Heynen (mostly ? ..all... ?)was made in Germany. Heytec is imported.

A explanation would be that the supplier of the wrenches to Mercedes contracted a different company for the supply of the wrenches (now imported instead of german) so they changed the bags/stickers but they might had some old german wrenches in stock sitting in a box which where also packaged in the new bags with the new coo…… ? ….maybe … ….

Thanks. I guess that making a cheaper range inhouse is a thing of the past now.

They listed the country of origin as Ireland (see JBH's post very recently about KC Tool and COO from customs docs).

Ireland on customs docs? Avoiding tax?

Interesting that KC uses customs docs for coo. Had wondered where they get their info from.

 

[Monte]

FWIW, I just bought a 10mm Heyco combo wrench from KC Tool in Kansas, because it was cheap and I have a compulsion to buy 10mm wrenches. They listed the country of origin as Ireland (see JBH's post very recently about KC Tool and COO from customs docs), and the damn wrench says Heyco Germany on it... so either Heyco is fudging things (my understanding is that Germany's labeling laws are different than ours, and perhaps more flexible in some cases), KC Tool got it wrong, or... ?

https://www.kctoolco.com/heyco-4000100-combination-wrench-metric-10mm/

I honestly hoped it would have Ireland stamped on it somewhere (I lost my old Schrade Imperial super- basic pocket knife, and haven't owned any other Irish- made tools I can recall). I'll try to get a pic up tomorrow- it's functional, not beautiful.

A dude from Heyco once told me: Heyco = Germany, Heynen = Ireland, Heytec = Import. But since i´ve never seen an irish Heynen tool (labeled as "Ireland") i always doubt it.
On the other hand they own a forge in Ireland (Shamrock Forge & Tools in Ballina/Republic of Ireland)....
https://www.heyco.de/_EN/standorte.html
https://www.heyco.de/_EN/geschichte.html
...and it seems they produce tools there too. The internet says car tool kits and DIY tools....Maybe they do produce blanks there which then are finished over here hence they have the "Germany" on the tool because the last finishing steps are made here which is good enough to label it with "Germany". But the customs paper work says "Ireland" because in the US the COO labeling is more stringent...... ?

 

[gf0012-aust]

Floorboard cramp. It grips on a joist and allows you to push floorboards up tight before nailing them down. You really need at least a pair of them. Not a common use tool anymore.

Thanks!

As per my luck, I only have one. So I guess it’s another orphaned curiosity for my shed

 

[Avenging Bankroll]

nothing

 

[Qualitytools]

The wrenches in my BMW tool kits are labeled HEYCO, they tend to be thinner than a regular wrench therefore, easier access in tight spaces.

 

[mr.lemons]

Well, I should probably say from the outset, that the majority of my experience with cross tip screws is with Pozidriv rather than Phillips.

Lots of discussions here about Phillips but not so much about Pozi. Only really see Phillips on electrical stuff, pcs etc. Don't think I've seen Phillips on a car for a few generations and it's all Pozi and slotted for house fixtures here. Is Phillips the standard screw type in the US?

 

[dutchgray]

Thanks!

As per my luck, I only have one. So I guess it’s another orphaned curiosity for my shed

Not unusual for a carpenter to only have one, it would be unusual to tackle a large flooring job on your own in the old days, two or three with a cramp each working on a floor means less time moving and more time bashing nails in.
I did one large traditional floor in a storeroom with an old carpenter a few years ago, 6" by 1 1/4" sawn redwood boards, grooved to accept an inch of 1/4" ply as a loose tongue, on 9" by 3" joists on 16" centres, using 2 1/2" cut clasp nails, 2 per board per joist.
We laid out 3 or 4 boards, wound them in with 3 cramps and nailed them down by hand, took almost a week. One of the worst jobs I ever had to do was nailing that floor. Swinging a 2lb hammer all day.

 

[Monte]

More Wolfcraft clamps

 

[JBH]

Is Phillips the standard screw type in the US?

PZ is largely nonexistent in the US. I don't even think you'll find a PZ screwdriver or bit (or screw) in most US hardware stores, or Home Depot. Oddly, last I glanced at one of their tool kits even Ikea, whose furniture uses PZ2 and hex screws for the most part, did not have PZ bits.

 

[Dave455]

Lots of discussions here about Phillips but not so much about Pozi. Only really see Phillips on electrical stuff, pcs etc. Don't think I've seen Phillips on a car for a few generations and it's all Pozi and slotted for house fixtures here. Is Phillips the standard screw type in the US?

Basically, yes!

When Pozidriv was introduced here, it pretty much killed off Phillips. BMC cars, as early as the late 60’s, used all Pozidriv, as do most things in the U.K.

Same situation in Europe, predominantly Pozidriv, certainly on cars, and also machine tools, white goods etc.

The only exception, for some reason, was the aerospace industry. You sometimes find Pozidriv screws holding on some bit of internal trim, but the majority of screws are Phillips.

Aside from aircraft, the only places I tend to find Phillips are Japanese cars, and electrical equipment.

The U.S. never went for Pozidriv. I think Phillips was too well established by then, and Pozidriv was too similar.

I’m sometimes surprised that U.S. manufacturers, such as Snap On and Mac, persist in attempting to sell screwdriver sets in the U.K. and Europe with Phillips drivers. Snap On don’t even offer their traditional hard handle drivers in Pozidriv any more, and Mac never have. Then they wonder why they are losing sales!

I often wonder what happens when someone finds a Pozidriv screw in the U.S, maybe on some British car? JBH is right, you’ll struggle to find a a Pozidriv screwdriver. Maybe that explains why some folks are always going on about badly fitting Phillips drivers...

 

[Avenging Bankroll]

nothing

 

[measuredtwice]

I think PZ fasteners probably get poked and prodded with Ph screwdrivers by some Ikea shoppers in the USA.

PZ isn't common in the US but you can find the bits and drivers locally and online. There are far fewer and they probably don't sell nearly as well as Ph in the USA.

 

[hautpot]

 

[Pexto]

In the U.S., the main place I've seen PZ screws is on ski bindings. Which are mostly European, of course.

 

[Reed Prince]

In NYC I used them often when working on British mixing consoles, Swiss tape recorders and German microphones. Used one last week to open up a Danish isolation transformer.

 

[node105]

A VERY nice Record No.5 I bought on ebay, arrived today. !969 Made in England.

It is almost NOS condition. Original box. The frog lands still have unmarked original 'cellulose blue', the 'Cutting Iron' and 'Cap Iron' still have original machine-ground grinding marks. Some traces of the grinding still exists on the sole. The nickel patting on the screws is unblemished.

It's a rippa.

Give it a bit of fettling; radiused the edges on the irons, flattened. and sharpened the blade, light cleanup with Abranet, and an light application of my new favourite - Ballistol.

Put it to the test on my beech workbench (French c.1900) I am currently flattening. A good size plane, worthwhile followup after the Ulmia 600mm (24") Jointer.