Tools from the old world
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gorskikotar
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Tahnk you Reed, this seems as some good info where I could find more information about that
Thank you!
gorskikotar
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VBW is even today a quality tool
jensputzier
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Easy to see: Check the Knipex section of my store and there is a COO stated with every tool (even with a flag) https://www.jensputzier.com/tools-by-brand/knipex/
Reed Prince
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The Knipex 00 20 72 V04 mini pliers set I won in a Knipex raffle arrived today, and I took some photos comparing this set to the 00 20 72 V01 set I purchased a few years ago. V04 is on the right.
^ Congrats. Nice prize.
Another file. F.**** 200mm. Coarse on one side, fine on the other. I have a Bahco file with this configuration and find it a bit annoying as you have to make sure you are using the correct side. Makes sense if you just want to buy one file though I guess. Sticky rubber handle. German company, but no COO.
+ another needle file handle.
Another file. F.**** 200mm. Coarse on one side, fine on the other. I have a Bahco file with this configuration and find it a bit annoying as you have to make sure you are using the correct side. Makes sense if you just want to buy one file though I guess. Sticky rubber handle. German company, but no COO.
+ another needle file handle.
Cynical huckster
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Red Rooster angle impact wrench. The trade mark is registered in the Netherlands, but COO is Taiwan.
Jeff
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Private Lugnutz
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Snagged a vintage Beta-Auto Chrome-Molybdenum No. 55 (5/8" x 3/4") DOE wrench at the flea market this morning. See Pics 1 through 5.
I don't normally pick up foreign tools unless they're special, unless something catches my eye, and that something in this case was the "ALLIED ITALY" stamping on the face of the major jaw. Which is a FOAK for me, perhaps this site as far as I know.
"Allied Italy" is not a term one sees too often, but it turns up in historical documents and books referring to provinces and territories that were controlled by the Allied Commission, as opposed to provinces and territories sometimes referred to as "Italian Italy" or "Kesselring's Italy" (the German Commander-in-Chief), after the Allied Invasion and occupation.
I think this wrench might be wartime and obviously made for an English export market.
Beta went on to become well known in Formula 1 and Superbike circles in the 1970's and, as you guys are probably well aware, is still in business.
Pic 6 is an excerpt I put together from the History section of the Beta website. The black and white photo is from 1929. Those piles on the left are DOE wrenches waiting to be finished. Note how the outline around the company name in the early logos matches the shape of the panels on the wrench I found.
I don't normally pick up foreign tools unless they're special, unless something catches my eye, and that something in this case was the "ALLIED ITALY" stamping on the face of the major jaw. Which is a FOAK for me, perhaps this site as far as I know.
"Allied Italy" is not a term one sees too often, but it turns up in historical documents and books referring to provinces and territories that were controlled by the Allied Commission, as opposed to provinces and territories sometimes referred to as "Italian Italy" or "Kesselring's Italy" (the German Commander-in-Chief), after the Allied Invasion and occupation.
I think this wrench might be wartime and obviously made for an English export market.
Beta went on to become well known in Formula 1 and Superbike circles in the 1970's and, as you guys are probably well aware, is still in business.
Pic 6 is an excerpt I put together from the History section of the Beta website. The black and white photo is from 1929. Those piles on the left are DOE wrenches waiting to be finished. Note how the outline around the company name in the early logos matches the shape of the panels on the wrench I found.
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Bought some rusty Ddr wrenches few days ago, this revealed under thick rust layer.
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I saw one similar wrench in other topic. Im interested if this wrench have any kind of value, the eagle stamp still visible though the ******** is erased.
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Whoa ! you're the Jensputzier ??? I keep frequenting your website and looking at all the good quality tools that you carry but leave in disappointment when i see the shipping estimates to Dubai.
Hazet Special Worldwide 2021 promotional brochure.
Highlights some new tools.
https://www.hazet.de/assets/nxsProspekte/2021/sww2021_en_xx_0.pdf
Highlights some new tools.
https://www.hazet.de/assets/nxsProspekte/2021/sww2021_en_xx_0.pdf
jensputzier
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Unfortunately, due to Covid restrictions, some shipping options are currently not available. We are left with DHL Express which is fast but a little more expensive than other ways of shipping.
jensputzier
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dutchgray
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Looks like a pair of jewellers tin snips to me.
Dave455
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As the other guys said, jewellers snips, or jewellers tin snips to be precise.
Those particular ones in your picture are made by NWS - the pliers makers.
Ich danke, in Deutschland werden sie “Goldschmiede Schnipsel” genannt!
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pistolpete1313
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Who makes hazet cordless tools?
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Hazet Special Worldwide 2021 promotional brochure.
Highlights some new tools.
https://www.hazet.de/assets/nxsProspekte/2021/sww2021_en_xx_0.pdf
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jensputzier
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Thank you all very very much!
Cynical huckster
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I'm not 100% sure, but some of their cordless impact wrenches look like DeWalt.
My new German (and one French) arrivals:
I've wanted the 1/4" HiPer ratchet for some time now, and immediately after I order it they release the quick release version... But I think I'm actually good with the non-QR. It's good this far, but not as impressed as I was by the 1/2" 916HPL.
Then two combination pliers from VBW and NWS, kind of for collection reasons.
The Wiha micro PH0 is to try out Wihas precision drivers, and the Expert branded Bost driver I just got cause it was cheap and a small slotted screwdriver comes in handy with terminal blocks.
I've wanted the 1/4" HiPer ratchet for some time now, and immediately after I order it they release the quick release version... But I think I'm actually good with the non-QR. It's good this far, but not as impressed as I was by the 1/2" 916HPL.
Then two combination pliers from VBW and NWS, kind of for collection reasons.
The Wiha micro PH0 is to try out Wihas precision drivers, and the Expert branded Bost driver I just got cause it was cheap and a small slotted screwdriver comes in handy with terminal blocks.
EDMA Super Coup sheet metal nibblers.
Purchased used from ebay. I think Knipex rebrands these.
Compared to Monodex.
They are very similar, but the EDMA is more refined in two signifiant ways. Firstly, the EDMA cleanly removes the cut-off material when you fully close the handles, whereas the Monodex leaves it attached to the project.
A Less broad head on the EDMA means they can cut closer to any obstructions.
The only issue I have found is that the handle covers are splitting. The nibblers do not look to have had much use, but I am not sure of their age. May have degraded from age rather than use. The Knipex version look to come with the same handles, just different colour.
Knipex 90 55 280
Purchased used from ebay. I think Knipex rebrands these.
Compared to Monodex.
They are very similar, but the EDMA is more refined in two signifiant ways. Firstly, the EDMA cleanly removes the cut-off material when you fully close the handles, whereas the Monodex leaves it attached to the project.
A Less broad head on the EDMA means they can cut closer to any obstructions.
The only issue I have found is that the handle covers are splitting. The nibblers do not look to have had much use, but I am not sure of their age. May have degraded from age rather than use. The Knipex version look to come with the same handles, just different colour.
Knipex 90 55 280
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Cybermike
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Trumpf makes their Drill Driver, Hammer Drill and Impact Driver.
Trumpf: https://www.trumpf.com/de_DE/
https://www.trutool.ch/trutool-bohrschrauber/
As their Batteries look a lot like Metabo...it probably has a link with Metabo too.
https://www.cordless-alliance-system.com/
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Cordless Alliance System
TRUMPF Elektrowerkzeuge ist dabei! Profitieren Sie von 100% Kompatibilität bei CAS-Akkupacks und Ladegeräten in einem herstellerübergreifenden System. Alles passt zu allem.
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Hazet long T20
I've never had a Hazet tool come in plastic packaging before. Also, weird that the packaging states that the driver is specifically a 'Mercedes-Benz Mounting Tool for Door Handle.' As far as I am aware, the Hazet part number is simply for a long T handle T20.
Very small, grey on grey writing to identify the torx size. Would be nice to have the size on the handle as well. No COO.
I've never had a Hazet tool come in plastic packaging before. Also, weird that the packaging states that the driver is specifically a 'Mercedes-Benz Mounting Tool for Door Handle.' As far as I am aware, the Hazet part number is simply for a long T handle T20.
Very small, grey on grey writing to identify the torx size. Would be nice to have the size on the handle as well. No COO.
upgrading
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Nice crop of Christmas trees you got there.
Regarding jeweller's snips. Looks like Bahco bought Record at some point. 
Heyco Maxline spanner.
Shiny chrome finish. Missed polishing in the edges. Box end is a little thick. Nice spanner though. Would like a set, but prices and availability in the UK is not so good.
Heyco Maxline spanner.
Shiny chrome finish. Missed polishing in the edges. Box end is a little thick. Nice spanner though. Would like a set, but prices and availability in the UK is not so good.
Dave455
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Regarding jeweller's snips. Looks like Bahco bought Record at some point.
Yes, Bahco bought Record in the early 80’s if I recall correctly.
I have several Record tools from that era that are marked “Bahco Record”.
Quality was still decent. I don’t own any of the British made Gilbow jewellers snips. I’d pick some up for sure if I saw new condition old stock at a fair price.
928'er
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Thanks for this, I've never had any training on how to use a caliper - so, may explain some of my dubious readings...
enough for every day christmas with a new tree !
Proxxon polisher WP/E
comes in a nice case
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backing pad, polishing pad,wool polishing pad, polishing felt, sanding discs, 2x Sonax polishing compound, microfibre towel, arbor
details
i also bought various small and large polishing pads and a 30mm backing pad
as well as a protective rubber boot
nice detail
ideal for small parts like sidemarker/backup lights, A-pillars, wheels, around the (open) trunk, around the license plate, door sill plates etc.
neophyte
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As far as I know, Trumpf isn’t a motor manufacturer, so it’s unlikely Trumpf is actually manufacturing the cordless drills themselves.
Most Trumpf tools, whether corded or corded or pneumatic, use motors from outside power tool manufacturers, usually German ones.
In the past, AEG/AtlasCopco/Milwaukee has supplied motors, particularly for Trumpf cordless nibblers and shears. Fein, Metabo, and Bosch and Flex have also supplied motors, maybe Suhner as well, although I just Suhner seems to be more of a supplier to Draco.
Trumpf as far as I can tell simply manufactures the cutting heads that attach to the motors, and also supplies these to outside manufacturers.
The motor in one Trumpf cordless nibbler I disassembled was modified with a hige heat sink on the end near the brushes, so Trumpf may modify outside tools were necessary for performance reasons. The motor looked like a standard Chinese Johnson DC motor.
With the drills, I would suspect that maybe Metabo makes a drill model for sales to other tool companies that may use Metabo batteries, and want to offer a cordless drill. At least that seems more likely to me than Trumpf manufacturing the drill themselves.
HAZET 953SPC. 1/4" + 1/2"
Purchased for £100 (+£9 post) new or NOS from Ebay. Going to keep the 1/2" sockets and sell on the rest. Hoping I will be left with the sockets at a reasonable price. Not sure how easy it will be to sell the low tooth count ratchets.
'Smart Case' can be propped up at an angle. I wonder if anyone actually uses the cases like this.
Well-placed knurling.
Plastic direction switch on the 1/2" ratchet seems like a weird choice, and feels cheap. I like the hard plastic handle though, and wish Stahlwille still offered hard handles.
Each tool is stamped or marked 'Made in Germany.'
This is what I am keeping. If I can make half the money back selling the other tools, it will have been a pretty good deal. However, after multiple trips out to the post office, I may not think it was worth the trouble.
Visual comparison to Gedore sockets. Outside, there is not much difference to how well they well are finished. Both have minor defects. Inside, Hazet sockets have a much cleaner finish with less tool marks. Gedore knurling is rendered useless when the socket is fitted to a ratchet, but works well for spinning in fasteners when not attached to a ratchet.
Purchased for £100 (+£9 post) new or NOS from Ebay. Going to keep the 1/2" sockets and sell on the rest. Hoping I will be left with the sockets at a reasonable price. Not sure how easy it will be to sell the low tooth count ratchets.
'Smart Case' can be propped up at an angle. I wonder if anyone actually uses the cases like this.
Well-placed knurling.
Plastic direction switch on the 1/2" ratchet seems like a weird choice, and feels cheap. I like the hard plastic handle though, and wish Stahlwille still offered hard handles.
Each tool is stamped or marked 'Made in Germany.'
This is what I am keeping. If I can make half the money back selling the other tools, it will have been a pretty good deal. However, after multiple trips out to the post office, I may not think it was worth the trouble.
Visual comparison to Gedore sockets. Outside, there is not much difference to how well they well are finished. Both have minor defects. Inside, Hazet sockets have a much cleaner finish with less tool marks. Gedore knurling is rendered useless when the socket is fitted to a ratchet, but works well for spinning in fasteners when not attached to a ratchet.
upgrading
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Nice pic of the knurling.
Nice set.
You're actually seeing a difference in how the sockets are produced, not defects. Gedore hot forges their sockets while Hazet are cold forged.