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She always comments on how spending time with me in tool stores are the most boring shopping experiences she goes through with me. sigh...![]()
The Kowa stuff is available from Webike. I also got a single 12mm wrench from them: a double box, zero offset, one end is 12pt and the other is a 6pt. I've found old "HM" wrenches at pawn shops here (HM = Honda Motorsports) and I think the OEM is Kowa.
The spud wrench is, yes, for the collection. ..
...but if I had nothing else that'll work, I'll use which ever end the job calls for..
I've done the job in the past, using a combination of either a flat head screwdriver with a pick or some needle nose pliers. Hopefully this'll make the next job easier and less time consuming.
KLars1 Cat Nr. 8975
Bhae Yes! That's the one I was thinking. Does Irega supply the Bahco ones too?
Also have to do that ....but i guess i just buy a new radiator![]()
Maybe these pliers work too ? (with removed radiator) Can´t remember how wide the "fins" are...?
The new Spanish made Bahco's are made by IRIMO.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28242&highlight=makers+adjustable+wrench
Keiba radiator pliers
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NWS manufacturers an adjusting plier that is similar to the Keiba radiator pliers. Here is a link to it:
http://www.nws-tools.de/English/products/products/electronic-tools/adjusting-pliers.html.
The plier picture and description is located on the bottom of the page.
Dave
Wiha 1/4" bits are very good. I've had some for about 4 years and they don't show any signs of wear. I'm not easy on them either. They're a very good fit and are very strong.

@Dave,
Nice find.
Out of the 4 "adjusting pliers", it's interesting to note that the handle grip on that one is different from the rest. ....but the Keiba is 140mm long versus the 135mm (very similar, yes) but more importantly, the angle is 60* on the Keiba, instead of 90* on the NWS. A 90* would be painful to use comfortably.
And we don't know how thick the blade tips on the NWS are. The Keiba, as you can see in the pic, is almost as thin as you can get, before you start compromising strength/durability. It'll fit quite well in between those bashed fins.
A little background on the pliers:
It's a product as a result of a collaboration between Team LeMans and Keiba. Team LeMans has been around since 1969 in Japan, as has been in the forefront of F2, F3000, Formula Nippon, GT championships. It's a team that churned out big names like Michael and Ralf Schumacher, and Johnny Herbert.
I've seen a picture of these pliers in full chrome plating, with dry carbon handle grips.
The duck bill pliers are probably too wide for normal rads.....maybe for large turbo IC's it'll work?
@Dave,
Nice find.
Out of the 4 "adjusting pliers", it's interesting to note that the handle grip on that one is different from the rest. ....but the Keiba is 140mm long versus the 135mm (very similar, yes) but more importantly, the angle is 60* on the Keiba, instead of 90* on the NWS. A 90* would be painful to use comfortably.
And we don't know how thick the blade tips on the NWS are. The Keiba, as you can see in the pic, is almost as thin as you can get, before you start compromising strength/durability. It'll fit quite well in between those bashed fins.
A little background on the pliers:
It's a product as a result of a collaboration between Team LeMans and Keiba. Team LeMans has been around since 1969 in Japan, as has been in the forefront of F2, F3000, Formula Nippon, GT championships. It's a team that churned out big names like Michael and Ralf Schumacher, and Johnny Herbert.
I've seen a picture of these pliers in full chrome plating, with dry carbon handle grips.
Superautobacs,
Can you please explain why pliers with 60* tips are more comfortable to use versus their 90* counterparts?
Thanks,
Dave
The "toolbox" from one of the other renters in the garage .......:

What are the measurements of the jaws ?? 0,5mm thick and 3 mm wide ??
Here are some similar pliers with 75 degree from VBW. 140mm long.
Where do you get them? I would love to find a pair to work on my gsxr oil cooler...

I know why - because with the 90s your fingers will be too close to the fins. Ouch!
I see he doesn't share the typical Germanic sense of order...![]()
you should see the hazet assistent cart that he posted here before. The "toolbox" from one of the other renters in the garage .......:
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a modest way of life ?? Cutters, pliers, stahlwille ??? how did that go with "a modest way of life"![]()

mhh no PZ with cap ??The 5 pc. sets were on sale here for 39.- ea. 2 times i think and for 29.- once. (+vat) ok still not cheap because of the extra sizes needed but what can i do ....?
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you almost reached that goal i think.... by looking at your tools....
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Never heard of KLW/Lutz i think. The price is ok though. About what you pay for a Metec serie 60, but larger. They dont say how big the drawers are though. Judging from the size of the box Metec series 64 and 67 have bigger drawers than KLW. So if you look for something bigger... But for the price they seem to be ok if you want to buy new. Used would be another option.
just some teaser pics.questions about the difference between the red and black saw probably would not occur because of the price level
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i believe they´re imported. The L-shaped socket wrenches (Pfeifenkopfschlüssel) too i think. First i thought from France maybe but i guess Taiwan. Other stuff too, locking pliers, electronic screwdrivers, new torque wrench (KS design), T-handle with universal joint. I think i posted a list here or in the german forum about the import stuff.
nice NOS Wiha screwdriver from the flea market
They don´t have a store in my city so unfortunately so i have to order everything through mailorder from their catalog.
"VBW" is a common brand here, the regular mechanics pliers however are not very common, you usually see Knipex here.VBW pipe wrenches, water pump pliers and sometimes bolt cutters is what you sometimes see next to Knipex mechanics pliers.
(150€ at my door from the UK)I see he doesn't share the typical Germanic sense of order...![]()
Some are quality tools, but I get nervous just by looking at the photo![]()
Servus,
It's a matter of point of view, of course.
I also want to get a few Heyco maxline wrenches. Can you comment on them? I'm thinking about ordering them from Schuebo. Prices seem to be ok, maybe I can get an additional discount.
Yes, that is strange but should be true. The Würth employee couldn't find any PZ screwdrivers with striking caps in the printed catalogue. I checked the Austrian Würth website at home and, indeed, no PZ screwdrivers with caps.
EUR 39,- (without VAT) would be ok but if I recall correctly, the promo price was about EUR 55 (without VAT). I wasn't willing to pay that.
Do you have a pic of a (printed) Würth prospectus with the EUR 29 promo price? (I found a photo of the EUR-39-offer in an older post.)
We seem to have a slight misunderstanding. I would have to sell lots of tools if only two of each kind were allowed.
How could I take home new tools and material without a car?![]()
A Metec for less than EUR 300? Really? Hard to believe, even the Metec 60050 (the drawer configuration doesn't fit my needs) seems to cost at least EUR 300 (without VAT).
I emailed KLW about the specs of their box some weeks ago but didn't get a reply.
The Metec series 68 would be nice, wouldn't it?
Vigor and Carolus should be another option in the class of reasonably priced toolboxes.
Is the jigsaw we are talking about (already) available in the new world? I couldn't find it online.
Thanks for your input. I will contact Matador in order to ask them for a confirmation.
While I enjoy tool shopping at stores, I also seem to like mail order. I can order independently from the stores' opening hours and unpacking a box full of new tools is a great feeling.![]()
The only VBW pliers I have seen on display at a local store were bolt cutters.
Some of my punches, chisels and an appropriate hammer
I wish I would have known about these things years ago, They are incredible!
I wish I would have known about these things years ago, They are incredible!
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sorry couldnt find the 29.- price. I will look tomorrow if i find it. I´m sure i have it somewhere, when i ordered the drivers i asked for the best price and he said 39.- , then he asked his boss and she said 39.-. One month later the set was for sale for 29.- so i was pretty upset. So thats why i know it was 29.- ....
How about a workbench with drawers ?
like christmas![]()
What is the common brand for bolt cutters and pipe wrenches in Austria ?
nice !!!! hmm pin punch with round handle ? never saw this !! sweet !!
nice Stubai chisels and Krenhof hammer !! What brand is the "Schlagfest" chisel ??
@Monte,
Great shot!![]()
Busy painting the Monte I see.![]()
Servus, Monte,
Thanks a lot for your input. I will probably travel to Bavaria in July and might stop by at a Würth store with a print of your pic.
I would rather build one (from wood) instead of buying one.
No, even better, because X-mas is only once a year.![]()
I'm not sure about the brands sold in DIY stores but many tool stores seem to offer Stubai bolt cutters and Gedore/Dako pipe wrenches.
I think Hornbach started to sell Unior recently.
Yes, "Strange, a pin punch with round handle." - that's what I thought when I opened the pouch. Initially, I wasn't happy because of the different shape of the punches but then I realized that I should definitely keep the "exotic" punch with its round handle.
IIRC, I couldn't find a manufacturer on the "Schlagfest" chisel.
As Monte asked me to post some information about my new jigsaw:

Saw teeth adjusting pliers. Made in England. Says PSE No 77 inside the handle. Anyone know anything about it?
Inherited from my dad. Don't know when it's from but the first I can recall of it is late 70's/early 80's.
A real nifty tool to keep the saw blade going straight.
Have a nice day.![]()
another good option ! Custom made is always best.
interesting ! Never saw Unior here...
i definately would keep it !!!! Or sell it to me !!![]()
Just looked in the Magic 2009 promo catalog and the round punch is pictured there ! hm next time i have to look closer.....never noticed it until now....![]()
maybe they´re on sale next year again...
thanks for the review !!!! Now I´m convinced !!![]()
What is the diameter of the rod ? The rod of my saw looks like a needle compared to the Mafell one...![]()

"WGB" pipe socket
Gedore No. 400 flare nut wrenches:
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Thanks for looking,
Chreese
Monte - More info on the Monte!
Servus, Monte,
I might use Ikea kitchen cabinets and build a workbench "around" them. The quality of Ikea drawers seems to be good and a variety of accessories (such as dividers) is available.
Initially, Hornbach sold other brands (Proxxon sockets and wrenches, Wiha screwdrivers etc., if I recall correctly) but when I entered the store a number of weeks ago, the "hand-tools-wall" was mostly Unior.
Apparently, there are national and maybe also regional differences. As mentioned before, Bauhaus doesn't offer Matador in Austria, they sell WGB tools though.
Indeed! I just checked my catalogue. The punches will be kept.![]()
I hope you don't urgently need punches up to a dia of 22 mm.This year, there are some nice tools on sale as well. The 7 XL and the 1 B wrenches are tempting ...
Does this mean that you already ordered a Mafell jigsaw?
I will measure it as soon as possible. Hopefully, the rod is accessible with a caliper.
And "Forum" pipe sockets:
Have a nice day,
Chreese
Interesting that the set has both 6 and 12 point wrenches. Nice!
Servus Chreese,
Ikea and good quality ? First time i hear this![]()
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Maybe they will change that here too when Unior makes better prices ?? Proxxon, Bahco, WGB, Wiha, Picard, Bessey, Pferd, Stabila, Rennsteig and Augusta-Heckenrose are sold @ the "Hornbach" store here. (Bahco saws were dropped (only socket sets sold now), now only Augusta-Heckenrose saws left, and "Olfa" cutters are gone too, now Wolfcraft cutters only.)
Smaller punches/chisels are on my wish list though, i think i´ll try Padre-Tirem/Benscheidt brand tools.
i think i´ll get a set of the "1 B" wrenches for at home... One of their combination pliers with the special finish too and i think a recoilless hammer which are even cheaper than last year and comes with free replacement head.
yeah expected delivery date is 2045 when i retire![]()
When i´m pensioner and have the time and money for wood working tools i get me one from ebay - much more reasonable then i guess about 10 bucks used...![]()
No a new jigsaw is not planned, only maybe a 6"/150mm orbital sander and maybe a Fein BOP 10-2 BUT other things are way more important like a lift and sand blast cabinet.

nice ! Only the two or a wrench roll with a set ?
Got me this "energy station" for 19,95 €![]()
even "Made in Germany"(with italian cable though
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