Unusual structure

[billconner]

Four human-size stories or four chicken-size stories?

I didn't measure but I'd say about 6'-4' to clear under 12' beams upon which sit 12" joists.

Pictures from Zillow of house and barn exterior, and barn 3rd and 4th floor. Barn - by pacing - is approx 75 x 35. I will look at removing third floor (second framed) to make double height main floor (second, street level), and perhaps remove ceiling above top floor. No idea if that is possible but also only focusing on making house habitable for son and family.

 

[firebirdparts]

Whoever built that barn wasn't fooling around.

 

[Dumber than lumber]

Hey, I've got an idea. Strip the 2nd floor wall and build your new support structure inside that wall. Tie your cables to that and then cover it up.

I can’t see how that would solve the playroom-in-the-attic objective.

 

[Dumber than lumber]

Four human-size stories or four chicken-size stories?

Remember now, “chicken-sized” is not a unit-of-measure on which everyone agrees. For example, there is Chicken Little; Chicken Sh!t; ChickenFried Steak.
They are a big family and go back a long, long time.

 

[billconner]

Whoever built that barn wasn't fooling around.

I think it was the barn that first caught my eye. What really sealed it is this is a 100+ acre farm that was deeded to a land trust, and they cut 2 acres - minimum - with all the buildings on it - just about dead center of the 100+. Woods and some fields and a nice pond that will never see other than a trail and maybe a small parking area for trail users. Blue is preserve, yellow is lot with house, barn, and other out buildings. Barn is on west side of dirt road.

 

[billconner]

Hey, I've got an idea. Strip the 2nd floor wall and build your new support structure inside that wall. Tie your cables to that and then cover it up.

That occurred to me. Make that wall a truss. Might be you could strip plaster and just attach plywood to both sides - a big "box beam" - but still problem of supporting second floor joists. The structure seems less the problem than holding it all in place while doing it. The span in the living room is 13'-5" and its supporting approx 170 sf of second floor and same of attic floor. Possible a triple 11" lvl would do it but more likely 14" - or may 6 or 8" steel.

Not tossing idea of doing it in the second floor wall, but sure to require temporary walls both sides both floors.

And how do you notify people in the future not to cut an opening in that wall?

I'll know a lot more after spending a day in the house as the owner, not just as the buyer, next week.

 

[whateg01]

Remember now, “chicken-sized” is not a unit-of-measure on which everyone agrees. For example, there is Chicken Little; Chicken Sh!t; ChickenFried Steak.
They are a big family and go back a long, long time.

Americans will use any form of measurement to avoid the metric system!

 

[PCustoms]

Americans will use any form of measurement to avoid the metric system!

Idk, seems like a chicken nugget, chicken strips, turkey leg system would be very intuitive to a large portion of the country

 

[whateg01]

Idk, seems like a chicken nugget, chicken strips, turkey leg system would be very intuitive to a large portion of the country

My son would argue that it could be broken down further into braums chicken strips, Freddy's chicken strips, etc

 

[PCustoms]

My son would argue that it could be broken down further into braums chicken strips, Freddy's chicken strips, etc

You're making my point...

Don't forget the dichotomy within the dino nuggets