Vise Info Thread

[Mark Stansbury]

1911 newspaper article confirming sale of Leavens (Jersey vises) to Stanley. Feel free to repost image.

 

[ranger08]

1911 newspaper article confirming sale of Leavens (Jersey vises) to Stanley. Feel free to repost image.

wow very interesting so when did stanley start adding their name to the stamping of victor vices?

 

[four.cycle]

1966 Hardware Age Milwaukee Tool & Equipment vise ad pp 143

 

[akasrick]

wow very interesting so when did stanley start adding their name to the stamping of victor vices?

I believe the earliest Stanley advertisement pages with those vises I've seen are from 1910.

akasrick

 

[akasrick]

I believe the earliest Stanley advertisement pages with those vises I've seen are from 1910.

akasrick

Scratch all that Ranger the earliest I can find that I copied on here is this snip no adv.

"Stanley began selling vises in 1911 after it purchased the Philip J. Leavens "Jersey" vise business in Vineland, New Jersey1 The Leavens vises were small, bench vises with jaw widths of 1½ inches to 3 inches. Jersey vises were more of a mechanics-style vise than a woodworker's vise.
In the late 1920s, Stanley saw a need for a small woodworker's vise that was light and portable, allowing a carpenter to carry it from job to job. The Stanley Model Shop was charged with the mission to create such a vise. Christian Bodmer, one of Stanley's mechanical engineers with many tool patents, filed a patent with the United States Patent Office on December 17, 1927, for the woodworker's vise that would become no. … "

I don't have an attribution for the above.

akasrick

 

[four.cycle]

Brown & Sharpe
North Brothers

* out of town 02/13 - 02/17 * list update uploaded 02/12/25 *

 

[Caboverbob]

The boss said that I can have this old vise if I want. Best I can tell so far is that it may be a model 134. It has 4.5” jaws, 1/2-13 x 3/4 hex handles and only a “0” stamped on the key. Any help ?

 

[TheRealZeus]

Gotta love sea foam green paint.
it looks great! I see no sign of a date stamp remaining, either.

 

[Caboverbob]

Gotta love sea foam green paint.
it looks great! I see no sign of a date stamp remaining, either.

It came on this bench that I found in a back shop.

 

[TheRealZeus]

It came on this bench that I found in a back shop.

I need a Tylenol just thinking about moving that. Looks solid. Nice!

 

[four.cycle]

Armstrong
Athol
Athol Simpson
Chicago Flexible Shaft Co. Stewart Handy Worker
Emmert
Phoenix
Williams Vulcan

 

[four.cycle]

Fisher Norris
Fulton
Massey
Millers Falls
Parker
Prentiss
Richards Wilcox

 

[KMScott]

Rock Island 57. No spec:s

 

[four.cycle]

Austin
Columbian
Fulton Star
North Bros. Yankee
Williams Vulcan

 

[KMScott]

Frantz Bros Vise Co. No spec:s

 

[TheRealZeus]

Frantz Bros Vise Co. No spec:s

Patent number & some specs. Written description provides no dimensions/measurement.

 

[KMScott]

Patent number & some specs. Please confirm/verify I am on point. I can correct or delete.

Looks like you nailed it. Too bad they didn’t add dimensions. Thanks Zeus.

 

[CRSINMICH]

This is why inventors hire patent attorneys. There are lots of differences between the 1891 Emmert patent vise and the 1903 Frantz patent vise but I wouldn't like to be the person who has to determine if one copied the other.

 

[TheRealZeus]

it is mounted different… completely different design… where is Kramer’s lawyer, Jackie?

 

[four.cycle]

1925

American
Bonney
Columbian
Erie
Luther
Mark
Millers Falls
North Bros.
Parker
Prentiss
Reed
Stanley Victor Jersey
Williams Vulcan

 

[four.cycle]

1925
Columbus Forge & Iron Co., Columbus, OH "Indian Chief"
Parker Oval Slide
Reed
Prentiss

(* NOT a clue on "American" or "Mark" - help me out here. *)

 

[CRSINMICH]

four.cycle: Mark Manufacturing was a Chicago area maker of all things plumby and pipey around the turn of the previous century. They made two styles of pipe vises; a kit vise (with clamp attachment) and a hinged Latch pattern vise. I have no idea what Latch pattern means.

I tried to warn you away from pipe vises.​

 

[four.cycle]

^ Tool is tool.
They all get their spot.
I've spent far more time on far more ridiculous objects. (Pineapple Eye Snips, anyone?) (looks like Joel needs to update that page - the device was manufacted by the Pineapple Eye Snip Manufacturing Co., 54 State St., Rochester, NY as well as the Christian Schlicker Mfg. Co., 12 Bloomingdale, Rochester, NY.

 

[Beerhippie]

four.cycle: Mark Manufacturing was a Chicago area maker of all things plumby and pipey around the turn of the previous century. They made two styles of pipe vises; a kit vise (with clamp attachment) and a hinged Latch pattern vise. I have no idea what Latch pattern means.
....

I'd think the drawing would make it obvious: One side of the vise has a hinge and the other a latch so you don't have to pass the entire length of the pipe through the opening.

I prefer the new-falutin' chain types myself.

 

[CRSINMICH]

My appologies. It would have helped if you had seen the other half of the Mark catalog page.


I'm partial to the chain vises too.

 

[CRSINMICH]

As it happens.... I actually own a Saunders pipe cutter. I restored it for an entry in the "Hand Tool Restoration Challenge Contest" Post #137

Hand tool restoration challenge contest (Read post #1 for the rules)

I’m starting a thread that will challenge your tool restoration skills. The idea is to find a tool in your stash of old junk that you maybe or maybe not were planning on restoring or at least making it useable and not be ashamed of how it looks. To participate, you have to post several good...

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Check out the thread but remember to read the rules first. It was fun and that thread deserves to be revived.

 

[TheRealZeus]

four.cycle: Mark Manufacturing was a Chicago area maker of all things plumby and pipey around the turn of the previous century. They made two styles of pipe vises; a kit vise (with clamp attachment) and a hinged Latch pattern vise. I have no idea what Latch pattern means.

I tried to warn you away from pipe vises.​

“Latch pattern…” I think that is “Salesman Speak” for the “pivoted yoke” patent.

 

[RTM]

My appologies. It would have helped if you had seen the other half of the Mark catalog page.


I'm partial to the chain vises too.

Reducing the wondering, there's no Latch in datamp for a vise. Try the patent office when I get home.

 

[akasrick]

1925

American
Bonney
Columbian
Erie
Luther
Mark
Millers Falls
North Bros.
Parker
Prentiss
Reed
Stanley Victor Jersey
Williams Vulcan

Not much help from me just another Addy for an "American" Supplee-Biddle Hwd Co. I don't have the page dated. 1927 adv.
swivel style vise

akasrick

 

[RTM]

Reducing the wondering, there's no Latch in datamp for a vise. Try the patent office when I get home.

Looking into the USPTO data base
Latch.in.
brings up 20 results, the first in 1925. (.in. is inventor name) But this doesn't account for the OCR only

Looking up
latch.lpar.
vise.lpar.

with an AND, reduces 16 million to 867 results, the first looking pipe vise like is this one from Glasser from 1864

US 0043194 A


More later

 

[TheRealZeus]

pipe vise patent found and an excerpt from it. Patent; US371805A

 

[four.cycle]

1926

Adams
Austin
Champion
Chicago Flexible Shaft Co.
Elgin
Erie
Illinois Iron & Bolt
Luther
Prentiss
Richards Wilcox
Rock Island
Stanley
Yost

 

[CRSINMICH]

PARKER Oval Slide Vises
From an 1870 hardware catalog
A 60 pound oval slide?

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[four.cycle]

1927 1928

Abernathy
Adams
Athol
B-M Co. who?
Champion
Cheney
Christiansen
Elgin pipe vise jaws who made these?
Hardy
Hollands
Massey
Millers Falls
North Bros.
Parker
Prentiss
Richards Wilcox
Stanley
Starrett
Williams
Yost

 

[CRSINMICH]

BON VISE JAWS
The Bon Manufacturing Co. of Elgin Illinois

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[akasrick]

1927 1928

Abernathy
Adams
Athol
B-M Co. who?
Champion
Cheney
Christiansen
Elgin pipe vise jaws who made these?
Hardy
Hollands
Massey
Millers Falls
North Bros.
Parker
Prentiss
Richards Wilcox
Stanley
Starrett
Williams
Yost

page 223 came up for sale months after page 222 identified as 1927 shows Hardy vises, Supplee-Biddle adv.



akasrick

 

[RTM]

1927 1928


B-M Co. who?

Maybe these guys. I can't see the logo clearly , but the third pic looks close

Braunsdorf-Mueller tools

Braunsdorf-Mueller tools /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Catalog None exists in the public domain on IA/ITCL or anywhere else that I know of. In lieu of a catalog, I developed a list of BMCo tools by the year and trade directory that they are listed...

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[four.cycle]

^ exactly.
thanks guys.

BON / BON Mfg. Co., Elgin, IL / "Elgin" "Yankee" pipe wrench attachment / patent 638475 Dec 5 1899 George W. Rouse / see also Richards Wilcox Mfg. Co., Aurora, IL; see also Wilcox Mfg. Co., Aurora, IL /[/B]

 

[K’Iowa_Coz_007]

Anybody know what this is there is no branding on it

Almost looks like a Stanley Jersey vise. The branded is typically stamped on the top of the slide in back

 

[RTM]

Inrte

pipe vise patent found and an excerpt from it. Patent; US371805A

Interesting, in the one I linked right above your post, dated from 6/21/1864, he claims this

In all pipe-vises with which I am acquainted, as heretofore constructed, it is necessary enter the pipe endwise through the jaws. This, when the pipes are in the usual lengths, consumes much time and rapidly wears away the sharp serrated edges which are necessary to prevent the pipe from turning under the action of the cutting-dies, and it also renders necessary the previous removal of any couplings, elbows, or other fixtures which may happen to be attached thereto, while a bent pipe can be entered only with great difficulty,
The nature of my invention consists in a pipe-vise constructed with a hinge and latch or equivalent device in the frame, so ar ranged relatively to the jaws thereof as to permit of the frame being readily opened for the entering or removal of a pipe in a lateral direction, and when closed to hold the same as firmly and securely as when the frame is of the usual entire form.


Not sure how the patent office found your guys work to be novel.
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