Which Pass Thru/Go Through Sockets/Ratchets Swap/Interchange?
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DPDISXR4Ti
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Will do. Might be a little while if I decide to make it an item to search for at Carlisle later this year.
That's where I got this (GS80060) set last year for $40...
Which is a great set except for lacking a ratchet handle!
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DPDISXR4Ti
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After finding that none of the local Sears/Ace stores stocked the 1/4" pass-thru ratchets, I decided to pull the trigger on this Gearwrench set (8923)
Currently available on eBay for $22.22 shipped, I figure that's about as good as it's going to get. Here's the ebay link, realizing it will be short-lived link, but might be useful for someone in the short-term.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Gearwrench-23-Pc-8923-Metric-Pass-thru-Socket-Slotted-Phillips-Torx-Hex-bits/122356271954?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
After finding that none of the local Sears/Ace stores stocked the 1/4" pass-thru ratchets, I decided to pull the trigger on this Gearwrench set (8923)
Currently available on eBay for $22.22 shipped, I figure that's about as good as it's going to get. Here's the ebay link, realizing it will be short-lived link, but might be useful for someone in the short-term.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Gearwrench-23-Pc-8923-Metric-Pass-thru-Socket-Slotted-Phillips-Torx-Hex-bits/122356271954?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
I totally forgot I had those sets in both sae and metric. The ratchets are complete junk. Both states skipping almost immediately. Hopefully you'll have better luck then I did.
DPDISXR4Ti
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Well damn, that's not what I wanted to hear!
DPDISXR4Ti
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I've used this ratchet a couple times now and it's worked as designed. Since it's effectively equivalent to a 1/4" socket I haven't used it for big-torque requirements, but I've certainly used it where the GearDriver Handle wouldn't deliver enough torque.
Now that I've got three different sets of pass-through socket sets (all Vortex GearWrench), I decided to just get a dedicated toolbag for all three. I would have just preferred that they included the ratcheting handle in the GS80060 set. I even tried to figure out a way to make a space in the molded case, but no luck.
DPDISXR4Ti
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I found something today at Sears Hardware (one of the last remaining) that I didn't even know existed. It's a 3/8" to 1/4" Max Axess adapter (Craftsman p/n 29300), which allows you to use a 3/8" pass-through ratchet with 1/4" pass-through sockets.
https://www.searsoutlet.com/br/pdp/...xess-adapter-3-8-in-drive/124798?uid=42437727
https://www.searsoutlet.com/br/pdp/...xess-adapter-3-8-in-drive/124798?uid=42437727
DPDISXR4Ti
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As the "New home of Craftsman tools", it'll be interesting to see if Lowe's starts selling/stocking the less common Craftsman tools such as this. I won't be holding my breath. So far my local Ace Hardware has been a disappointment in their stocking of individual Craftsman sockets. That was always the nice thing about Sears - how they fully stocked individual tools for warranty replacement.
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a6hux
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Does anyone know of another set (or square/bit adapter) that’s compatible with the Facom/USAG/Wera through ratchets? Ratchets are are 11mm 12pt with retaining ring, and sockets are 6pt with notch.
I list them together because I assume they have the same OEM. Wera Zyklop FA sockets work on the USAG locking flex through ratchet.
I list them together because I assume they have the same OEM. Wera Zyklop FA sockets work on the USAG locking flex through ratchet.
Fair enough. The attached pictures show the USAG ratchet and 7mm through-sockets by USAG (my USAG kit came with sockets stamped with the Facom logo, as you will see below) and Wera, as well as Wera socket on USAG ratchet.
Links:
USAG/Facom compact set:
https://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?products_id=8928
I do not know if sockets are available as open stock.
USAG/Facom locking flex-head ratchet:
https://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?products_id=8929
Wera set:
https://www.kctoolco.com/wera-135918-kraftform-kompakt-zyklop-mini-2-set/
Wera ratchet:
https://www.kctoolco.com/wera-003660-zyklop-mini-2-ratchet/
Wera sockets open stock:
top of https://www.kctoolco.com/search.php...th 1/4" and Hexagon 11 Drive §ion=product
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I hate to think how much time I spent on this. You want a bit holder socket for the above listed ratchets. Apparently nobody makes that as far as my searching went.
The only thing I found close is this: https://store.snapon.com/Low-Profil...le-Magnetic-1-4-Shank-Bit-Holder-P649059.aspx
Item: RTMBS8
"Fits in any 11 mm ratcheting wrench"
Of course that might possibly need modification for your ratchet.
The only thing I found close is this: https://store.snapon.com/Low-Profil...le-Magnetic-1-4-Shank-Bit-Holder-P649059.aspx
Item: RTMBS8
"Fits in any 11 mm ratcheting wrench"
Of course that might possibly need modification for your ratchet.
Thanks!
That’s a source I didn’t even think to look at. I assumed the Taiwanese OEM for Facom/USAG and Wera made this tool for others as well.
I do want to avoid two ratchets taking up space in a super small portable tool kit (i-Boxx Mini) so I’ll pick one up to test and report back
I’m more likely to try removing the retaining ring on the bitholder than modify the ratchet though.
That’s a source I didn’t even think to look at. I assumed the Taiwanese OEM for Facom/USAG and Wera made this tool for others as well.
I do want to avoid two ratchets taking up space in a super small portable tool kit (i-Boxx Mini) so I’ll pick one up to test and report back
I’m more likely to try removing the retaining ring on the bitholder than modify the ratchet though.
Confirmed: compatible, no mod required.
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Discovered these today but can't find an example anywhere
Found here: https://picclick.com/New-Kobalt-3-8-in-and-1-4-in-Drive-Xtreme-Access-322414209358.html
Found here: https://picclick.com/New-Kobalt-3-8-in-and-1-4-in-Drive-Xtreme-Access-322414209358.html
jessknowsnuthin
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Some more brands for the “a”group. Halfords advanced, Wurth zebra, makita, westward, omega pro, mob, tack life. 
I have reason to believe that the Stanley/ bostitch pass thru (craftsman also made an alternate pass thru version under b&d to be compatible with these) could be compatible with bahco.
I’m not totally obsessed but it does get out of hand at times. Here’s my 1/4” and 1/2” drawers. I won’t show my stacks of pass-thru cases
Klein has a couple newish pass-thru sets. 1/4 and 3/8” drives with a weird spline drive.
I have reason to believe that the Stanley/ bostitch pass thru (craftsman also made an alternate pass thru version under b&d to be compatible with these) could be compatible with bahco.
I’m not totally obsessed but it does get out of hand at times. Here’s my 1/4” and 1/2” drawers. I won’t show my stacks of pass-thru cases
Klein has a couple newish pass-thru sets. 1/4 and 3/8” drives with a weird spline drive.
ChevyEFI
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We show up periodically.
ChevyEFI
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From another thread:
I cannot vouch for spline or 12-point, but I thought it belonged here too.
KnurledNut
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I was playing with a set recently. They were standard 12-point. They may be doing spline too. I haven't been following all the releases and design changes with this system. Their retaining ring works great with the 12 point sockets and accessories.
DPDISXR4Ti
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I don't have any Lowe's near me, but last time I was in one I was impressed with how many individual Craftsman hand-tools they were stocking. Alas, I forgot to check if they had any individual pass-through ratchets or sockets. Has anyone else looked?
Appears to be Group B3. Ex: https://harttools.com/products/16-pc-3-8-drive-pass-thru-socket-setI'm confused - which group is the 11mm outer hex with retaining notches, e.g. Facom/USAG, Wera, Würth, Matco, and now I think VIM too?
From the OP: "Most brands of Pass Thru sets label them as 3/8", 1/4", or 1/2" Drive. This refers to the range of socket sizes for each of those and IMHO, it should be 'Drive Equivalent'."
Some brands only have one DE; others, two or even three.
The groups are designated by retention style, not DE size. In many cases I could only go by pix on the 'Net.
Some brands only have one DE; others, two or even three.
The groups are designated by retention style, not DE size. In many cases I could only go by pix on the 'Net.
JasOmatic
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Amazing write up. Had to Register to say thankyou.
Thank you very much and welcome to GJ. There are many on this board who know far more than I about most tools.
I tried to do something that might help with these particular niche tools since, unlike regular square drives, there are so many variations, finding replacements might be difficult for other than, say, GearWrench.
Have been told I "need to get a life."
I tried to do something that might help with these particular niche tools since, unlike regular square drives, there are so many variations, finding replacements might be difficult for other than, say, GearWrench.
Have been told I "need to get a life."
YoshiMoshi3
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Adding some knowledge to this database thread. I realize it's an old thread, but it is very detailed. I went ahead and purchased a GW 893823
The length of the ratchet at 12" is accurate. The ratchet is ~ 11.7 mm in overall thickness at head, not including the directional switch.
10 mm, 11 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 16 mm, 17 mm, 3/8 ", 7/16 ", 1/2 ", 9/16 ", 5/8 ", 11/16 " are ~ 32.0 mm in overall height.
18 mm is ~ 32.4 mm in overall height.
19 mm, 3/4 " is ~ 33.0 mm in overall height.
13/16 " is ~ 34.7 mm in overall height
7/8" is ~ 35.1 mm in overall height.
The length of the ratchet at 12" is accurate. The ratchet is ~ 11.7 mm in overall thickness at head, not including the directional switch.
10 mm, 11 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 16 mm, 17 mm, 3/8 ", 7/16 ", 1/2 ", 9/16 ", 5/8 ", 11/16 " are ~ 32.0 mm in overall height.
18 mm is ~ 32.4 mm in overall height.
19 mm, 3/4 " is ~ 33.0 mm in overall height.
13/16 " is ~ 34.7 mm in overall height
7/8" is ~ 35.1 mm in overall height.