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Made a present for a valentine day gift for my wife. Needs a few more coats of poly and a way of hanging it on the wall place on the backside.

I used a belt sander, angle grinder, router, and some poly to achieve this result.

Oh and if you look in the floor you can see where I knocked the bark off the wood piece before I got a picture.
 

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Madison: love the gift and effort!!

Jim: I also like your little stool you made in 7th grade. here's a bowl i made the first time I used a wood lathe in 8th grade and it still holds my change and keys and the brown felt is still in decent shape after 48 years now.

ALL: any of you make a MURPHY BED FROM SCRATCH? i'm building one out of a kit, but i'm guessing i'd like to build another one for another guest room out of REAL WOOD SOME DAY.

here's what $1,000 gets you with SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.
 

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I haven't built a murphy bed but I've been wanting to put on in the guest bedroom/workout room. Of course I got too many projects right now to be putting another one in the fire!
 

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... any of you make a MURPHY BED FROM SCRATCH? i'm building one out of a kit, but i'm guessing i'd like to build another one for another guest room out of REAL WOOD SOME DAY.

here's what $1,000 gets you with SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.

A lot of these sort of kits sell the wood separately from the hardware, so maybe that is an option.

I've found that its often cheaper for me to buy the whole thing, than piece it together and build it myself, even if I could my labor as worthless. Because of that, I'll need a quite compelling reason to build something myself. Such as fitting it into a custom space that an "off-the-rack" product would not work in, or matching another piece, etc.
 
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Madison--Nice project from a scrap. She should love it and award bonus points.

Drives--Nice work for a teen. Heck, nicer than my lathe skills. I have real trouble turning spheres. Good to see that it is still in use.

Unless you can find corners to cut, buying the kit is probably the way to go on your Murphy bed.

For example, I picked up three pine 1x3s at the borg today for a spice rack. Not your usual furring strips but really, really nice pine. The price of $6.24 each seemed reasonable until I figured out that I paid $4.16 per bf. WTF? Then I realized that I could have gotten some cherry (with shipping) for $3.50. And it was CHERRY. So there is the story. By the time you buy everything you need (with associated markups) you probably end up saving money on the kit.
 

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...For example, I picked up three pine 1x3s at the borg today for a spice rack. Not your usual furring strips but really, really nice pine. The price of $6.24 each seemed reasonable until I figured out that I paid $4.16 per bf. WTF? Then I realized that I could have gotten some cherry (with shipping) for $3.50. And it was CHERRY. So there is the story. By the time you buy everything you need (with associated markups) you probably end up saving money on the kit.

Pine isn't cheap. Clear radiata pine is usually more expensive than oak.
Now #2 common pine can be cheap, but then you usually have to pick through the pile to find one ok piece which is still at least 30% waste once you cut the knots out.
 

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Shooting Board Storage

While working in the shop this morning I found a convenient place to hang my shooting board - right next to a No. 6 that I have dedicated for shooting. Being the type of guy who wears a belt and suspenders, I wanted to make sure the board wouldn't get jostled off the edge of the cabinet too easily. I decided to put a rounded groove on the back side of the cleat to match the round over on the top edge of the cabinet. I had a wooden moulding plane handy that does just that. Three minutes after I got the idea the cove was cut and the shooting board was hanging securely in its new spot. Sometimes hand tools are much faster than power tools.

(It wasn't I who painted the No. 6 yellow nor did I drill the hole in the toe. Mr. Stolpe did that (pronounced Stol-pea). Mr. Stolpe was my 7th grade woodshop teacher. I use his name to honor shop teachers for all the work they did. I don't blame them for things like the paint or the hole. They were just trying to keep the tools organized and keep them from wandering out of the shop.)
 

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New project--spice rack

It is a balmy 70 degrees here today. I replaced a broken light socket in the attic and earned some fun shop time. The cooktop nook was jammed up with spices and really needed a rack for organization. So Mr Kreg and I got busy with that new pine. Two of the six foot boards got whacked into 24" sections for two uprights and three shelves. Everything went together well. AND this project was QUICK. That is the best kind. My, those Kreg screw containers sure do deplete quickly also.
 

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Spice Rack

The nice and expensive pine looks great in the kitchen, which has natural hickory cabinets. Of course, the pine was much easer to work with than the hickory. But if this rack stands up to the test of time, I may remake it with the hickory scraps I have.

It fit well and holds a bunch of spices. It is nice to get that clutter out of the way.

I am pleasantly surprised at how I have been able to put the Kreg to work in my shop. It is a really handy tool and just fits my style of quick projects.
 

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The wife wanted a small shelf by the front door to hang the kids jackets, keys etc and have a place to set small things while coming or going out. So I made the shelf pictures below out of some scrap southern yellow pine 2x material. It's finished with a golden oak stain and clear satin polyurethane. It was a fun little afternoon project.

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Used pallet wood to make a 7ft tall coat rack with a lift up seat lid. That way we can hang up our keys and coats, then sit down, take off our shoes, anf put them inside the box.

Also stripped a box I found in the dumpster stained it mahogany red, finished it with boiled linseed oil, and then paste wax. Gave it to one puff my daughters.34fa9eb0517e0ec1719deb2412e592c9.jpg9808f0d55a986df31c60c51188b9ff7d.jpg3bfe4d2e741e7d60fd7b9ddcc14ea097.jpg1759ec2795f87638798410b81083a11a.jpg26343678f0649246072b71d06143055f.jpg

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hunter: Very nice job on that shelf. I hope you've got it screwed into the studs because it will get a lot of use. Love that golden oak finish!

Donkey: That's a terrific hall tree. It will get a lot of use too. I really like the alternating bands. That box will also be useful. Well worth the effort to spiff it up.
 

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CRUBBER TRIAL​
Some time back I read a discussion of using Crubber on a woodworking vise face. It is supposed to improve the grip of the vise. Crubber is an automotive gasket material made from cork and rubber particles. It comes in sheets about 10"x24" and is available at auto parts stores.

I wasn't having a lot of trouble with materials slipping while clamped in my vise, but sometimes I had to apply more torque to the handle than I thought should have been necessary. I used contact cement to hold a section of Crubber to the face of the dynamic jaw. I've been using the newly improved vise for a few weeks and was pleased with the result but I hadn't really given it a true test of gripping power - until this week. I wanted to rip two thick boards out of a large block of hard maple so I used a combination of a kerfing plane and a frame saw. Kerfing planes are a combination of a plane with a moveable fence and a ripping saw. The idea is to cut a kerf a given distance from the edge of a board along two faces and across two ends of a board and use the kerf as a guide for a large frame saw.

HERE'S THE TEST: I clamped a 3"x 4-3/4"x 20" chunk of hard maple in my vise and used a kerfing plane to saw two parallel kerfs. I then used a frame saw with a wide ripping blade to saw out two pieces. One piece was 7/8ths inches thick and the other was 1-7/8ths inches thick. There was no slippage at all during any of the operations even while sawing across the ends of the maple block held vertically in the vise. I am very pleased with Crubber! I only had to apply moderate torque to the vise handle; noticeably less than what was needed for routine jobs before Crubber. The only question left is how well Crubber will hold up over time. I'll keep you posted.
 

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CRS--Very clever solution. I like that wartime #6. It looks like a good user.

jim: Thanks! The No.6 does work well as a shooting plane. It has enough mass to make shooting end grain easier. You can't tell from the picture but it doesn't have a frog adjustment screw, but that's not much of a problem for a shooting plane. I set the frog for a medium wide mouth and just leave it at that. In fact, I don't retract the iron either. I leave it set for a good cut and hang it on a nail. Now I can just grab the board and the plane and be shooting within 10 seconds.
 

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Hunter & donkey--Great projects. Just up my alley--scrap raw material and made in a flash. These quick & dirty projects can really improve things around the house. And don't forget the shop publicity value. I promote these projects to the extreme around here so my wife does not get upset when I come home loaded with "surprises" from HD.

CRS--I also like your idea of dedicating a plane. Dialing in a plane can take time--from mere seconds to many minutes. You have found out that it saves time to dial it in once and use it many times. That is why I have at least four #5 sized planes on my shelf. Each one is set a bit differently with blades of varying degrees of sharpness. Sometimes I finish a shop session by honing the blade of some random plane. I don't mind doing it but I hate when it gets in the way of a project.
 

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Hunter & donkey--Great projects. Just up my alley--scrap raw material and made in a flash. These quick & dirty projects can really improve things around the house. And don't forget the shop publicity value. I promote these projects to the extreme around here so my wife does not get upset when I come home loaded with "surprises" from HD.

CRS--I also like your idea of dedicating a plane. Dialing in a plane can take time--from mere seconds to many minutes. You have found out that it saves time to dial it in once and use it many times. That is why I have at least four #5 sized planes on my shelf. Each one is set a bit differently with blades of varying degrees of sharpness. Sometimes I finish a shop session by honing the blade of some random plane. I don't mind doing it but I hate when it gets in the way of a project.



Thanks for the compliments y'all gave on my little project. Quick wins are huge for my motivation to stay at it and get better. They are also great to justify shop time to the wife.

Dedicated planes. Y'all sure aren't helping my talk myself out of buying more LOL.


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Hollows and rounds

I have been trying to post a rehab story about hollows and rounds but the paperclip is not working for me. I will try one picture. If this works, look for the plane that needs help.
 

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Hollow and round fix, second post

I had my H&R set out today and remembered that the previous owner turned the #12 hollow into a bead plane. This has been on the list for a long time.

So I pulled the blade. There was plenty of meat on the blade and I scribed the true line many years ago. Grind grind and I had it close. The good news is that the mate, the #12 round was, of course, the exact profile of the blade edge. I put sandpaper on the #12 sole and began scraping away. It took 1/2 sheet of paper but I got it done and honed.

I will try three pictures this time.

NO GO on pictures
 
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At last

So here is the recap. I marked the back of the blade with a sharpie. Then I held it to the sole and used a scribe to mark the profile. Then I ground the blade to the mark as close as I could. I had to use the corner of the wheel. When I got the profile as close as I could, I moved from the coarse wheel over to the fine wheel and put the bevel on the back. It took frequent quenching to keep the steel from overheating. Careful work with the grinding wheel got me real close.

I got a fresh sheet of 220 AO sandpaper, cut it in half, and bent it around the round plane of the pair. That sole is the mirror of the hollow profile. I used the Parker smooth jaw vise to hold everything tight. I started by scrubbing the blade in both directions. The fresh AO cut quickly and I began to sneak up the bevel to the blade edge. Whenever the paper wore out, I moved it to get fresh paper. At the end, I could see just a tiny shiny edge on the blade. When it disappeared, I freshened up the back of the blade. Then I moved on to the 400 paper for honing.

A cherry scrap provided a good test. I love those thin tortured shavings. I also love getting this project off the list.
 

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jim: Great job fixing that iron and returning the plane to its original use. If more people knew how well wooden planes worked with just a little fettling, they'd be much harder to come by. Mum's the word!
 
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jim: Great job fixing that iron and returning the plane to its original use. If more people knew how well wooden planes worked with just a little fettling, they'd be much harder to come by. Mum's the word!

How true! Woodies rule!!!

Here are some adjustment tips. I use whatever wooden mallet is available but have also used a scrap 1x1 stick with great success. Blade adjustment is easy with light taps so anything light duty will do well. Just don't use metal. I also like to have soft and knot free construction lumber available for testing.

Setting Blade Depth
I do this first and with the wedge slightly loose and the blade almost at the mouth. Just tap the end until the blade kisses the wood. Then I tap firmly to set the wedge. Not to hammer it home but to make it tight but still loose enough to remove with finger pressure.

Adjusting Blade Depth
Setting the wedge will almost always change the depth of the blade. If it is now too deep, firmly tap on the heel of the plane. If it is too shallow, tap on the front of the plane.

Lateral adjustment
Make test cuts on each side of the blade and adjust until they are even. Just tap lightly on the side of the blade.

I find that each plane responds differently. Some need firm taps and some need light taps. That is why I like to test drive each plane and work with it on scraps.

Wax
Wooden plane bodies like wax. The soles especially like wax. But the wedges DON'T like wax.

Wedges
Sometimes older plane bodies shrink and capture their wedges. Use a pocketknife to lightly scrape the sides of the wedge. Of course, leave the top and bottom working surfaces alone. Be sure to clean rust from the irons, especially on the bottom where they mate with the bed and on top where they mate with the wedge. If the wedge is STUCK HARD, clamp it in a vise (after protecting the surfaces from the vise jaws) and sharply rap the heel of the plane. The wedge should give it up after a few raps. And don't be afraid to make a new wedge. You ARE a woodworker, after all.
 
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Woodworking projects that will be finished "bright" can easily become contaminated from wax, to the point that the finish looks blotchy or, worse, won't adhere.

Noted. Too much wax is bad but there is a long list. Many things that can contaminate the surface of a project. My biggest issue is flopsweat. There is not enough hair to catch water from my head so it cascades down onto everything.

I like to spend a day or two cleaning up my projects before staining and finishing. It gives me time for a few cleaning sessions. Turpentine is my go to product and will show every stray glue speck and other defects. Scraping and sandpaper will usually take care of those things.

As my ww habits mature, I find myself taking more time at the end of the project and it shows in the outcome.
 

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Finally mount the legs on one of the coffee table.

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Snipe bill plane

So I was cleaning up and found this little jewel. It is a snipe bill plane. There is a lot of internet speculation about what this plane is for. Some think it is used against a batten to start a line for a moulding plane. Others think it is used to nibble junctions in mouldings and sharpen them up. I belong to the second camp. Moulding planes are notorious for making lousy transitions. They are just not crisp. But a snipe bill will clean them up easily.

It was named for the snipe bird that uses its long sharp pointed beak to catch insects. There is a larger plane that looks like a crescent moon that is called a crows beak that is used to sneak under mouldings and clean up the transitions.

These planes usually came in pairs so they could be used in both directions if the grain got ornery.
 

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IMS--I am digging your coffee table top. Is that maple?

In--Never used the cookies but the price is right. Maybe EZ can convince us with some war stories of them in action in his shop.
 

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Hollowed a piece of hard west systems epoxy in that contraption!

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I thought that was a glass full of whiskey, which is a fine thing to make, too.

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