Is there a name for the threads used in Record (UK) quick release "fitters" vises?
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Is there a name for the threads used in Record (UK) quick release "fitters" vises?
KMScott
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That looks like a Buttress Thread, The British use buttress threads too. My Record # 53 wood vise with the quick release has a buttress thread. Mine measures .960 x 4 threads per inch.
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The thread appears to have a negative angle on one side, so I wasn't sure if it might be a proprietary type. It's similar to the thread used on Cardinal Speed Vises that employ a halfnut for quick release.
Just thought it might have a special name...
garagetalkers
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anyone have comments about a Wilton 1750 vise
KMScott
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exmaxima1. you are right, mine like yours has a undercut thread. Got my curiosity up. Might hear something on this from our friends over seas. I can see cutting this type of thread, but why the negative rake. I am to old to get on my knees to see how the lock mechanism works on my woodworking bench.
I believe it is to keep the halfnut engaged under load. On the Cardinal vises, the "undercut buttress" thread holds it tight with no springs, etc.
https://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/products/products.cfm?categoryID=7226
Fretters
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That, barring wear, is about the only reason I can think of for it, so that the thread pulls the nut in tight to the shaft under load. With regards the Records, who knows. They're sprung underneath, as far as I know, so it's unnecessary. Seems like it would weaken the thread rather than improve it, unless some stupidly deep and coarse thread was used.
Provincial
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I need some help identifying this vice. Any ideas from the gurus? I have no idea about where it came from. I acquired it from a flea market and didn't get any background on it. No markings from what I can see.
That big support under the dynamic jaw screams Athol/Starrett to me.
Grigg
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Also possible to run into "stub acme" threads which very much resemble plain acme but the thread isn't as tall.
Given the same nominal thread size the pitch diameter of stub acme will be larger than that of a standard acme thread.
454ragtop
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Welcome to GJ! A 1750 is a 5" jaw medium duty bullet vise. If in good shape, is an excellent general purpose shop vise. I'm currently restoring one, latest pics here http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244617 As rec'd pics are a few pages back in this thread. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3884587#post3884587
HTH, Jim
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CudaChick1968
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Re: Good morning with a Rigid 80SN vise, aka my vice.
Stellar!!!! Such a beautiful vise too!!
Hey, can I borrow that this weekend? I need an attention getter for my yard sale.
Stellar!!!! Such a beautiful vise too!!
Hey, can I borrow that this weekend? I need an attention getter for my yard sale.
CudaChick1968
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Just a big You ****!!!
(That's a good thing around here by the way.)Welcome to the Forum! You're going to love it here -- I can tell already.
wrenchguy
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Re: Good morning with a Rigid 80SN vise, aka my vice.
sure. 40 mile se of chicago, 4 mile east of i-65.
Stellar!!!! Such a beautiful vise too!!
Hey, can I borrow that this weekend? I need an attention getter for my yard sale.
sure. 40 mile se of chicago, 4 mile east of i-65.
Re: Some DETAILS on the BOWLING BALL vise mount thingy
Very nice Charles. I like it. Idle hands.... and all.
Very nice Charles. I like it. Idle hands.... and all.
Very nice vise! You should buy this to go with your vise: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-192...119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461e21628f
I have a list of over 450 companies which manufactured vises and this is my first American Chain Co. vise. Thanks for sharing!
I have a list of over 450 companies which manufactured vises and this is my first American Chain Co. vise. Thanks for sharing!
Clik
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"I have a list of over 450 companies which manufactured vises and this is my first American Chain Co. vise. Thanks for sharing!"[/QUOTE]
Have you ever posted that list here?
I'm sure the group would appreciate it.
It would be nice if someone expanded on whay Daydid started.
Have you ever posted that list here?
I'm sure the group would appreciate it.
It would be nice if someone expanded on whay Daydid started.
oldldh
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We have a new member named Jon Jacobs....
And this is what he made and just posted on his thread...
I thought it was worthy of including in the "Mother of All Vise Threads"...
The boy "Dun Gud"...
How many do you think he could sell/give away/distribute???
Beats the stew out of a broken/missing retainer...
And this is what he made and just posted on his thread...
I thought it was worthy of including in the "Mother of All Vise Threads"...
The boy "Dun Gud"...
How many do you think he could sell/give away/distribute???
Beats the stew out of a broken/missing retainer...
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wrenchguy
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We have a new member named Jon Jacobs....
And this is what he made and just posted on his thread...
I thought it was worthy of including in the "Mother of All Vise Threads"...
The boy "Dun Gud"...
How many do you think he could sell/give away/distribute???
Beats the stew out of a broken/missing retainer...
real nice. 2b honest i'd wait 4 a original to come along.
btw, anyone been in touch with jason?
Have you ever posted that list here?
I'm sure the group would appreciate it.
It would be nice if someone expanded on whay Daydid started.
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I'm still trying to figure that part out. I need an easier way to do a data dump.
Robert Haas
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Found this rusted forgotten relic under a pile of junk at a friends barn.
tore it down and brought it back from the dead, painted it, polished up some parts. straightened the main shaft and it now runs like brand new.
Interesting thing about this vise, once I stripped it I found hallmark stamps on every part. Did some research and found out this was a military piece that required certification. These type of certifications were done on tools used in weapon and advanced aircraft repairs areas.
tore it down and brought it back from the dead, painted it, polished up some parts. straightened the main shaft and it now runs like brand new.
Interesting thing about this vise, once I stripped it I found hallmark stamps on every part. Did some research and found out this was a military piece that required certification. These type of certifications were done on tools used in weapon and advanced aircraft repairs areas.
Outlawmws
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GREAT find and save Robert!
Outlawmws
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oldldh, link to the thread?
AndrewH
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Well.. Another successful day. Bought 2 today, got the Wilton from zoomieport, great guy, and has an awesome collection! Thanks again for my first Wilton!
Someone must have dunked this thing in a can of red paint multiple times!
Chas Parker 105 from CL
Someone must have dunked this thing in a can of red paint multiple times!
Chas Parker 105 from CL
zoomieport
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It was great to meet you Andrew!
The paint removal on that one will test your patients and skills!
I believe that color would be "You-should-arrest-me-for-using-so-damn-much-of-me-Red"
(No fellas, I DID NOT PAINT IT)
Take Care!
ZOOM
McBrownie
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Well.. Another successful day. Bought 2 today, got the Wilton from zoomieport, great guy, and has an awesome collection! Thanks again for my first Wilton!
Someone must have dunked this thing in a can of red paint multiple times!
Mine looked just like that when I got it. I wonder if it is the same person doing the dunking. He should be arrested for the red. Nothing a little paint stripper and a wire wheel couldn't handle. It will look like this in no time.
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Hako86
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Found this rusted forgotten relic under a pile of junk at a friends barn.
tore it down and brought it back from the dead, painted it, polished up some parts. straightened the main shaft and it now runs like brand new.
Interesting thing about this vise, once I stripped it I found hallmark stamps on every part. Did some research and found out this was a military piece that required certification. These type of certifications were done on tools used in weapon and advanced aircraft repairs areas.
Can you take pictures of those marks? Because I have an old American Scale vise and I think it came to Holland during the first or second world war. So maybe my vise has got some marks as well???
Robert Haas
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will see if I can get some, the vise is now at it's new owners. I will see if he will shoot a pic or three for us.
My "Wedge Lok" (i think) vise
Recently went back to Ohio to visit my grandmother and found this in my grandfathers old shop. It can be locked down with the screw in the front or left loose to pivot easily. when the vise is tightened it forces the wedge to lock down in the base. It's pretty slick.
I wanted to add it to this thread. Someone else on the forum thought that it may be made by Jahant Foundry and Heating Co. (link)
But mine looks a little different than the vise posted in the link. Would be grateful for any information that you guys may know about it. (mfg or vintage)
Also, I am debating; should I restore it or leave it as is. I would like to get/make a handle and mount it on my bench for light use.
My grandfather was from Piqua Ohio, I have several of his vintage tools and think about him every time i use one of them. He has been gone for 25 years or so now.
Anyone have a lead on a nice handle?
thanks,
brian
Recently went back to Ohio to visit my grandmother and found this in my grandfathers old shop. It can be locked down with the screw in the front or left loose to pivot easily. when the vise is tightened it forces the wedge to lock down in the base. It's pretty slick.
I wanted to add it to this thread. Someone else on the forum thought that it may be made by Jahant Foundry and Heating Co. (link)
But mine looks a little different than the vise posted in the link. Would be grateful for any information that you guys may know about it. (mfg or vintage)
Also, I am debating; should I restore it or leave it as is. I would like to get/make a handle and mount it on my bench for light use.
My grandfather was from Piqua Ohio, I have several of his vintage tools and think about him every time i use one of them. He has been gone for 25 years or so now.
Anyone have a lead on a nice handle?
thanks,
brian
Aquarices - I have the little brother to that - the 32C. Great vises, though I'm planning on selling mine. I just moved back to WA from Meridian, I'm missing the warmer weather today lol.
Brian - thanks for sharing that vise! First time I've seen one like that - Very cool!
Brian - thanks for sharing that vise! First time I've seen one like that - Very cool!
McBrownie
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Re: My "Wedge Lok" (i think) vise
My opinion, for what it's worth, would be to restore. The reason is that it's far enough gone that it needs some TLC. Just a hunch, but I think your Grandfather would appreciate it. Check out member RitzBlitz for the handle. He just made one for an old Parker of mine and it is REALLY nice.
My opinion, for what it's worth, would be to restore. The reason is that it's far enough gone that it needs some TLC. Just a hunch, but I think your Grandfather would appreciate it. Check out member RitzBlitz for the handle. He just made one for an old Parker of mine and it is REALLY nice.
Craptain
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Bsquared, I have absolutely no idea who made it but it is wonderful. Restore it, but do it carefully respecting it's heritage. Sorry, I can't help with the handle.
Outlawmws
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Brian, I think that vise should be cleaned up for the workings ONLY (Wire wheel unfinished parts and the jaws), the painted surfaces cleaned with something light like WD 40 , a new handle fabbed and installed, and put to medium duty use in your shop/garage.
Besides being your grandfathers vise, it's UNIQUE and something that unique is only original once...
Besides being your grandfathers vise, it's UNIQUE and something that unique is only original once...
Outlawmws
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ps: does that jaw say "dropped"? If so, it's probably even more unique; drop forged?
Amitygravel
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I look at Bsquareds vise and I keep seeing so many aspects that remind me of a post vise.
Drop forged would make sense then.
Possibly a companies "new design" using their tried and true methods ?
Drop forged would make sense then.
Possibly a companies "new design" using their tried and true methods ?
oldldh
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Thoughts on this one? I might snap it up and restore it.
http://houston.craigslist.org/tls/4352773331.html
http://houston.craigslist.org/tls/4352773331.html
ritzblitz
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Looks nice, not sure if id pay 100 for it though.
Fretters
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Any chance you chaps who keep linking to Craigslist listings could add a photo along with the link in future? I'm sure I'm not the only one who either can't or won't view that site. Makes it a tad awkward to follow the plot without a photo.
McBrownie
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Any chance you chaps who keep linking to Craigslist listings could add a photo along with the link in future? I'm sure I'm not the only one who either can't or won't view that site. Makes it a tad awkward to follow the plot without a photo.
Uploading photos from iOS devices (ipad, iphone) doesn't seem to be possible. If someone knows how, please let me know.
Now, imagine a rusty Wilton 1750 Mechanics vise that still has some original paint and the original sticker.
I agree that $100 seems a little steep.