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I'm working on 4 of these big fir stumps right now. Where I decided to run my gutter drains falls in this area. Two out of the ground, two to go. Took a few trees and some brush out too, for the I-pit. Here soon I'll have all my ditches in and pit dug, then to install all the piping and run all the time-ins. We'll see how this week goes.
 

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All four stumps out off the ground. A couple of these are going to get chopped up and make nice anvil bases for a blacksmith buddy. A couple trailer loads to go to the waste dump, then a little dirt moving before starting in on drain pit and ditches. Electrician told me he'd be back out this week also..... Getting closer!
 

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Krucks: so I'm guessing that back hoe is your #1 machine you need when building a garage?

wow that's no little job pulling out that size tree stumps. I pulled out some about 1/4 that size at my daughter's new home by hand and worked up a sweat.

keep up the great work and looks like your garage has been there for a while in the last picture. WELL DONE!!
 
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Electrical final L&I inspection was bought of today! I backfilled my power ditch and called our power company to run services. Might have power by the end of next week or so.
 
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Here's a few photos of the electrical.
 

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These show the barn style lights I put up over the doors. 18" shades over the 12x14's, 14" shade over the 9x8. I also have a 12" over the man door on the side that matches. These are a great product and made to order in USA!
 

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I got the power turned on in the shop today. Everything seems to work. I'm pleased with the lights. That was one of the more difficult parts of the project to figure out. Last step before final is to finish my drainage system, working on that now.
 

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I got the power turned on in the shop today. Everything seems to work. I'm pleased with the lights. That was one of the more difficult parts of the project to figure out. Last step before final is to finish my drainage system, working on that now.



Looks great in there! I wish mine was that size.


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Krucks: your lighting looks great in the daytime. even better at night? keep up the good work and it just keeps getting better. Well Done!

Hey ol buddy! Yea the lights worked out well. I was agonizing over what light fixtures to run as you know. I think these will work out great! Thanks for the kind words my friend.
 
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I installed some clear glass bulbs in the barn lights yesterday. I like the light cast these put out, turned out pretty good. I didn't want to throw light too far out from the building since I don't plan to do a lot of work outside the garage anyway. The folks at barn light electric sure are great to deal with, very helpful. The three 12x14 doors have an 18" shade and running 200W clears, the 9x8 has a 14" shade running a 150W clear, and the man door has a 12" shade running a 150W clear.

Here's a link to the lights I used:
https://www.barnlight.com/lighting/barn-lights/goosenecks/the-original-warehouse-gooseneck-light/

There are a lot of options for hardware, gooseneck arm style, finishes, etc to select, and they are great quality. No ballasted bulbs in these particular fixtures, just any led or incandescent A19 or A21 style bulb. These GE clear incandescents I used I bought at Lowe's and they're only a few bucks a piece.
 

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Krucks: I bet you and maybe your bride just smile now when you look out and see that garage sitting there don't you?

the lights look great and thanks for the tips. i need a few outside lights on our home and I might tell my bride about that store and see if we can find something that might work for us.

your garage at night looks AMAZING!!
 
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Krucks: I bet you and maybe your bride just smile now when you look out and see that garage sitting there don't you?

the lights look great and thanks for the tips. i need a few outside lights on our home and I might tell my bride about that store and see if we can find something that might work for us.

your garage at night looks AMAZING!!

Thanks. :thumbup: you'll love the barn light electric site, they have some great products and the people are great. Made to order in the USA, what's not to like!
 
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Went to the supply yard and picked up I-pit drainage materials today. I should be able to start digging drainage ditches and pit tomorrow. $583 bought me everything I need plus extras for installing the drainage system, some of the lengths of pipe and a few fittings I'm sure I'll return, but better safe than sorry and have enough fittings on hand. I will have to buy drain rock for the pit, and possibly a riser for the sump basin, but I don't know the depth I'll wind up at yet so I didn't buy the lid or riser yet. The standard lid is sold separately and if you use a riser to make it to grade then it's a different lid. I already have the sediment fabric on hand from other projects so that should be about it.
 

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Kruck’s,

Would appreciate any updates you do on this portion of the build. County storm water regulations are insane when you try to get through the mega-manual.


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No problem, I'll try to capture the stages of install the best I can. Attached is some of the quick reference data from the county for an infiltration pit which I chose to do, and a dispersion trench. The other options the county gives you are a variations of a rain garden. I like the simplicity of the I-Pit and the materials aren't bad, plus it's all sub-grade which I wanted for my area.
 

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Something I should ad is that if you go to Ferguson Waterworks up in Silverdale they have a lot of inside knowledge about the county requirements and work with contractors who do these installs on a regular basis. They were able to answer a few questions I had and also had some of the county requirements printed out. Great group of people and very knowledgeable, and efficient at putting orders together.
 

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Something I should ad is that if you go to Ferguson Waterworks up in Silverdale they have a lot of inside knowledge about the county requirements and work with contractors who do these installs on a regular basis. They were able to answer a few questions I had and also had some of the county requirements printed out. Great group of people and very knowledgeable, and efficient at putting orders together.



Very Helpful! Thanks much.


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I started in on the installation of the I-pit this weekend. Pretty much all of the digging is done, and I made some progress on installing the drain pipe. Rear of the garage is in, and down the one side. I tied in the front corner and ran across in front of the doors also. One of the pictures shows some stakes and a line level that I used up front to run slope. Worked ok, I have line levels, but it got me close enough. I have that pipe installed now to but haven't taken any pics. Tomorrow if I have time I should be up to the point of tying into the sump basin. Then I have some machine work and hand raking to do in the pit to get it leveled out and ready for a 6" base of 1-1/2" drain rock. I've got the first load of rock waiting in the dump trailer. You can see in the pictures how I ran the rear section. I pulled back some dirt, then made a bedding along the foundation for the pipe run; that way I could get the amount of slope in the 60 feet that I wanted with light scraping with a square nose shovel. I've got a couple inches of fall there. Down the side of the garage my lot is sloped anyway so I just ran with the grade. The front is the tricky part since I have to dig deep to meet the adjacent sections. There's a lot of dirt (sand) above grade since it was so dry a lot of material has to come out due to sluffing. I'm glad to see the rain tonight!! Thank God! Maybe the burn ban will lift too...Hopefully by the end of next weekend I'll be ready for an inspection so I can get backfilled. I'll post more details of the rest of the drain system as I make progress.
 

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I made some progress on the infiltration pit this week. I wound up with 20 yards of 1-1/2" drain rock in the pit which is roughly 350 s.f. with rock depth of 2 feet. The perforated pipe is 6" down from the top of the rock. This will get a layer of sediment felt on top and then I'll get my county inspection on the entire drainage system from the downspouts to the pit. Once that's done I'll get all backfilled and request final inspection. Seeing the light....
 

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Added soil separator (sediment felt) above rock in the pit. This will get covered up to grade, minimum 6" compacted per country requirements. Ready for inspection this week, then backfill and grading.
 

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These are a few pictures of the front side drainage I didn't include before.
 

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We decided to take a camping trip last weekend so I had to backfill and scrape a grade in front of the bay I had the camper sitting in so I could get it out of the garage. I don't think the county inspector will care but I guess we'll see. The other pictures show how deep I had to trench to make proper slope to catch the back drainage to the front. All the runs tee into one line to run into the sump basin. A pretty significant amount of water runs through the system in a medium rain. I watched it come out of the pipe in the rain last week before tying it so all together. That pit is 350 square feet with what wound up being 20 yards of 1-1/2" drain rock. I would think that would be plenty to soak up the rain water. Plus I'm so sandy around here that my footing drain around the entire foundation doesn't produce a drop. I think that was pointless but I went above and beyond what was required because I'd be pretty frustrated if over the winter I had saturation come through the wall or floor! In an earlier post I showed the process of spraying the foundation with a rubberized emulsion process, and wrapping it with drain mat, and seal stripping it. This thing should always be bone dry.....I hope.
 

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That's some impressive drainage! Does Kitsap require it based on the overall area of disturbed ground, building size, or something else?
 
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That's some impressive drainage! Does Kitsap require it based on the overall area of disturbed ground, building size, or something else?

It is measured and designed off of roof square footage. So depending on footprint of building and roof pitch, they evaluate the info and designate a square footage of the pit. Depth is standard.
 
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Passed my drainage inspection today and got my I-pit and ditches backfilled. I have some grading to do, a landing to put outside the man door (I'll probably just lay down some temporary pavers, but have to have a landing per country code), and need to extend and daylight my footing drains, then request final inspection. Hoping to get that wrapped up Monday.
 

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Krucks: with all the work you've done so far a little cement landing outside your man door should be a piece of cake. do you have any 2x6's and a few stakes to make a form?

I just poured another section of sidewalk that i'm extending on the side of my house and hand mixed 18 80 pound bags this afternoon so i know a younger and in better shape guy like yourself could pour a 3x3 landing in about an hour.

good luck and BIG CONGRATS that you've passed everything so far.
 

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Krucks: with all the work you've done so far a little cement landing outside your man door should be a piece of cake. do you have any 2x6's and a few stakes to make a form?

I just poured another section of sidewalk that i'm extending on the side of my house and hand mixed 18 80 pound bags this afternoon so i know a younger and in better shape guy like yourself could pour a 3x3 landing in about an hour.

good luck and BIG CONGRATS that you've passed everything so far.


I'm just doing a temp little pad to get through final for now because I'm actually planning on pouring a large pad in that spot with a 5' tall surrounding concrete wall. I need to build or pour a wall because I need to backfill behind that area but it's not required for country inspection. If I pour a little pad now it will be wasted later.
 

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Krucks: I wonder if you could pass inspections with a few red bricks and then when you want to pull them up later they can be used elsewhere.

congrats on your awesome garage.

just asking for those of us that are jealous or maybe thinking about building something similar is there anything you'd do different except maybe renting a lift so you wouldn't have fallen?
 
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Thanks drives.

Yea I'm sure it will work fine. I'm just going to grab some cheap pavers at Lowe's tomorrow and throw them down for now.

As far as if I'd do anything different....I don't have anything yet, but after I have a chance to move into the building I'm sure I'll come up with a few things that I might have done differently. It was a lengthy project and I took a lot of thought on all my decisions so hopefully it all works out like I think it will.

I met with a guy this afternoon that has a concrete finishing company and hired him to do a job for me. After my final inspection, I'll get everything out of the garage and have him auto-scrub the slab, apply two coats of blend densifier, and a coat of water and oil repellant. That will be the last thing I have to do before moving into the building, so I'll definitely be in there this month! Woohoo!
 
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Krucks: actually my bride used to do all the finish work, but she retired from that job a few years ago so i'm still trying to get up to her standards. it's sure a good workout hand mixing cement though so hope my old body holds up cause I've got a helluva cedar pile in my backyard to plane and stain and put on my deck next summer.
 

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I remember looking at that stockpile when I was over. That is one respectable supply of material! I had a guy over yesterday that runs a father/son milling business. I think I'm going to hire them this fall/winter to saw up some nice fir logs I have ready to be cut. I think I'll play with my little Alaskan mill too. I'm building a cover structure over my fire pit out of large dimension posts and beams. Looking forward to that project!!
 
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