40X60 Shop Build - Washington State

[rubberrodder]

Mann! Love the build so far. I can't wait to see the inside of this start coming together too.

 

[ahaugh]

Awesome shop. Cant wait to see it when its done.

 

[rotortuner]

I'm building a pole building up here in north kitsap, also curious about your I pit. I see your a 40x60, how many sqft did they size your I pit at with your sandy soil?

 

[jeff_gates]

I'm on the south end of Kitsap, we are flying up on Thursday to speed a week+ to work on the house.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30157784@N06/

 

[KrucksGarage]

Mann! Love the build so far. I can't wait to see the inside of this start coming together too.

I feel the same way!

 

[KrucksGarage]

Awesome shop. Cant wait to see it when its done.

Stay tuned......for a loooooooong time! We might get there some day!

 

[KrucksGarage]

I'm building a pole building up here in north kitsap, also curious about your I pit. I see your a 40x60, how many sqft did they size your I pit at with your sandy soil?

They have me at 348 sq. ft. for the I-Pit. It has to be 2 ft. deep, with 1.5 ft. of drain rock, layer of sediment cloth and 6" of cover. Shouldn't be too bad to get done. I hope to get the facia painted here soon and get gutters installed first and foremost. I'll start ditching the infiltration trench after that. The pit shouldn't take me long from there, just digging and laying some pvc and drain rock. I'll be sure to post some detailed pictures along that project phase too. Don't trust anything I do until I tell you it passes inspection though!

 

[KrucksGarage]

I'm on the south end of Kitsap, we are flying up on Thursday to speed a week+ to work on the house.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30157784@N06/

Awesome! The weather is pretty crummy right now but not much you can do about that. Good ol Washington. I was drenched to the bone today!

 

[Mikeske]

Awesome! The weather is pretty crummy right now but not much you can do about that. Good ol Washington. I was drenched to the bone today!

I had to put some rocks in pockets to walk the dogs earlier today. Wind was around 40 MPH. Dogs had no problem with it and the old one (15 years old) was chasing a rabbit. He still has the prey drive but his gittee up has left.

 

[rotortuner]

They have me at 348 sq. ft. for the I-Pit. It has to be 2 ft. deep, with 1.5 ft. of drain rock, layer of sediment cloth and 6" of cover. Shouldn't be too bad to get done. I hope to get the facia painted here soon and get gutters installed first and foremost. I'll start ditching the infiltration trench after that. The pit shouldn't take me long from there, just digging and laying some pvc and drain rock. I'll be sure to post some detailed pictures along that project phase too. Don't trust anything I do until I tell you it passes inspection though!

Ya i believe they are all designed the same. Those are the identical specs they gave me just a different square footage. I'm doing a 4080sqft building and they have me at 1260sqft for the I pit and my soil was sandy. Don't really understand how I'm less than double your size but pit is 3x.. Was your soil analysis almost straight sand?

 

[KrucksGarage]

Yea pretty much. I'm in a sandbox over here. I was frustrated with the county because I wanted to divert to the roadside ditch that runs down into a pretty massive holding pond that is dry even in a monsoon. Nope.... Need engineering for that which amounts to thousands and no guarantee they'll let it happen. So...I pit it is. It's not a huge cost doing it myself but I still have to accommodate the square footage somewhere adjacent to the building where I don't plan on driving or parking. Which for me meant extra clearing I'd rather not have done.

 

[KrucksGarage]

The siding is complete now and looks fantastic. The guy I went with for the install was one of the best guys I've worked with on a project. You guys will have to let me know if you need a contact around here in construction. I have a painter lined up to spray out the eves and facia so I can get gutters installed. I need to get that done so I'm not fighting the waterfall making a mess out of the siding. I hope to be through all of that within a couple weeks. After that she'll sit until spring for garage doors and electrical. I do have a few projects around the outside of the building that I'll be working on for retainment and final grade. I plan to pick up a couple pallets of stone wall for building back the stepped areas at each foundation lift for backfill. I'll explain and show that project later.

 

[KrucksGarage]

I know they're small things but things I appreciate nonetheless. Look at the quality of this bead of caulk. The whole building looks that way, from windows and doors to corner trim, etc. No air pockets, straight edges, no thin or bulgy areas and overall great coverage without ********* and wiping half of the effective material away as a compromise for appearance. You guys know what I'm talking about. I'm not the greatest at running a caulking gun but I can get the job done adequately, but not like this guy. There's certainly some skill involved with being consistent. The other picture is just to show the fact that they consolidated all of the trash from around the building and staged it all in an easy access area so I can make an easy dump run. Makes for a good display of craftsmanship and professionalism.

 

[KrucksGarage]

Just a few more detail shots of around the building.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Looks incredible!!

 

[diiulio]

Garage looks great. I am intrigued on how he attached the brace at the top of the pump jacks. Any detail on that?

 

[KrucksGarage]

Looks incredible!!

Thank you.

 

[KrucksGarage]

Garage looks great. I am intrigued on how he attached the brace at the top of the pump jacks. Any detail on that?

Hopefully these show what you're asking. He just tacked up a couple pieces of OSB with square holes in them to 2x6's and fastened those to the facia. All the pressure is going pretty much straight down with them. I climbed up and checked it out and they're impressively stable. Really neat setup.

 

[drivesitfar]

Krucks: your siding guy's work looks great. since your siding is primed already are you going to wait until next summer to paint it?

i put up part of our home's hardy plank siding last year and after finishing the siding this summer we painted the entire house and it looks good in case you were wondering if the primed hardi plank might be ok to leave that way for the winter.

i'm betting having it sided not only looks better, but it's another TO DO to check off your list and have off your mind now.

cheers and what's next??

 

[KrucksGarage]

Krucks: your siding guy's work looks great. since your siding is primed already are you going to wait until next summer to paint it?

i put up part of our home's hardy plank siding last year and after finishing the siding this summer we painted the entire house and it looks good in case you were wondering if the primed hardi plank might be ok to leave that way for the winter.

i'm betting having it sided not only looks better, but it's another TO DO to check off your list and have off your mind now.

cheers and what's next??

Thanks, and for the tips too! I'll probably wait until spring to paint. The hardi products have a year warranty between primer and paint after installation so it should be no worry to wait until after winter. I will paint the eves and facia though so I can get gutters hanging sooner than later. That will help keep the waterfall coming off the edges from splashing on the bottom of the siding and getting it full of mud and slime. After that I'll be working on getting the drainage and I-pit dug in and inspected over the winter. I'll probably work on the other remaining retainment and dirt work as well. Spring will also be the time for garage doors and electrical. I've got more homework to do in those areas anyway so that will buy me some time. Plus my wife and I need to settle in on what colors we like for the house and garage since we'll be doing some light remodel in the house and painting it at the same time next year. Slow and steady, but we'll get there!

 

[drivesitfar]

Krucks: great plan with the painting the fascia and putting up the gutters. are you maybe going to tarp the garage door's openings to keep some of the weather out with all this wind and maybe snow later this winter or maybe it doesn't get that wet inside?

i hope you get a few dry days for painting and gutter work, but looks like rain is in our forecast most days now.

cheers and good luck!!

Also happy to hear you took a few minutes out of your busy life to watch Dr. Rick's youtube video in my sig line. it's got some great life lessons and his wit and humor are pretty easy to watch.

 

[KrucksGarage]

No, no tarps. It doesn't get too we inside; I think the gutters will help out with a bit. I might taper the grade a little more outside the approach but that would be about it.

 

[drivesitfar]

Krucks: i know you are still going to build a retention or some sort of drain, but how do you like that crushed (asphalt?) material you put down over the dirt a few months back? is it draining and keeping the mud out of your new garage?

cheers and hope you are enjoying this sunshine today!!

 

[KrucksGarage]

The crushed asphalt is working out great, I like it so far.

 

[tarmy]

Nice build...where did you get or what type of steel man door is that...I need a couple just like it.

 

[KrucksGarage]

Nice build...where did you get or what type of steel man door is that...I need a couple just like it.

That door came from "Northwest Hollow Metal Works" which is a division of "Washington Architectural Hardware" out of Tacoma, WA. I used to work there and went back to my old boss to get fixed up. It's a made to order custom door. Great place, but you should be able to find a hollow metal shop in your area. Not sure if these guys would ship it down there or if it would be worth doing for you. Looks like you're in Cali. I think the supplier they use for the parts to build the main structure is called "Curries". Then I bought Schlage commercial stainless handle, deadbolt, and 5" hinges. This one is a narrow face jamb instead of a 2" it is 1-3/4" which makes it a little wider opening. The door is 4' wide by 7' tall. (4-0/7-0). All the steel is also galvanized so it shouldn't rust.

 

[tarmy]

That door came from "Northwest Hollow Metal Works" which is a division of "Washington Architectural Hardware" out of Tacoma, WA. I used to work there and went back to my old boss to get fixed up. It's a made to order custom door. Great place, but you should be able to find a hollow metal shop in your area. Not sure if these guys would ship it down there or if it would be worth doing for you. Looks like you're in Cali. I think the supplier they use for the parts to build the main structure is called "Curries". Then I bought Schlage commercial stainless handle, deadbolt, and 5" hinges. This one is a narrow face jamb instead of a 2" it is 1-3/4" which makes it a little wider opening. The door is 4' wide by 7' tall. (4-0/7-0). All the steel is also galvanized so it shouldn't rust.

Thank you...you answered my other question...how wide.
I will for your guy and look into it...

 

[KrucksGarage]

We're considering going with some grey tones for paint colors. Do you guys have an opinion of how these color sets looks together? I think this is the hardest part of the build! The dark color is changed it between the two pictures.
Hopefully it turns out nice because I think I'll paint the house to match next year.
I'm thinking the trim will be the darkest color, mid tone will be the gable ends board and batten siding, and the lightest of the three will be the lap siding walls and all doors, unless I go with a simulated wood style door. Thoughts?

 

[drivesitfar]

Krucks: i know it's probably YOUR GARAGE, but i'd still let your bride pick paint colors unless she's leaving it up to you. mine loves doing that and all i do is nod my head and say how many gallons should we buy.

we just painted our home's Hardie Plank this summer a light brown with a tan trim and it looks ok so if you like grey and your bride approves just choose a good paint. we bought Sherwin Williams for exterior that usually has a sale every month or two if you have a store near you and we just bought some more Behr paint at Home Depot to paint the room our daughter just moved out of inside so there are several good brand choices.

good luck and what i have told the guys on the big vise thread for years that ask about what color i mention WHAT COLOR WOULD YOU LIKE CAUSE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. your home your color, but thanks for asking.

 

[KrucksGarage]

I hear ya, that's funny you say that. There are my wife's color ideas. She's a lot better at figuring that out than I am! I think we're close to a decision. It will be something similar to those color samples.

 

[Toolfool]

I like the group with the Aspen Stone.

 

[KrucksGarage]

I like the group with the Aspen Stone.

me too!

 

[SiGmA_X]

me too!

Me three.

Krucks: i know it's probably YOUR GARAGE, but i'd still let your bride pick paint colors unless she's leaving it up to you. mine loves doing that and all i do is nod my head and say how many gallons should we buy.

we just painted our home's Hardie Plank this summer a light brown with a tan trim and it looks ok so if you like grey and your bride approves just choose a good paint. we bought Sherwin Williams for exterior that usually has a sale every month or two if you have a store near you and we just bought some more Behr paint at Home Depot to paint the room our daughter just moved out of inside so there are several good brand choices.

good luck and what i have told the guys on the big vise thread for years that ask about what color i mention WHAT COLOR WOULD YOU LIKE CAUSE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. your home your color, but thanks for asking.

Always good advice. I rather like the Hardie Plank on your house. Mine has it on the front, but the rest is T1-11. Someday it will all be Hardi...

 

[rotortuner]

Sent you a private message.

 

[jkesselr]

This may come across rude to ask, but can you give us an idea of what your total build cost is and approximately how much you did yourself? I am considering building a large shop, and know the cost is largely dependent on the designs, materials, and site conditions, but I am just trying to get a realistic total for a 40x60. I am renting a huge building now, but know I can’t afford to build a 55x110 like I am renting, so I need to figure out the square footage my budget will allow and then downsize accordingly.

 

[mygarageone]

I just went through your whole build thread , Awsome job . I liked your yard and shrubs , green grass , beautiful place.
Where I live those shrubs would be crushed by the tons of snow we get up here. That's the only part of where we live I don't like .
You have a great location , looking forward to your progress.

Hoping your healed up 100 % I know the feeling been there.

 

[KrucksGarage]

This may come across rude to ask, but can you give us an idea of what your total build cost is and approximately how much you did yourself? I am considering building a large shop, and know the cost is largely dependent on the designs, materials, and site conditions, but I am just trying to get a realistic total for a 40x60. I am renting a huge building now, but know I can’t afford to build a 55x110 like I am renting, so I need to figure out the square footage my budget will allow and then downsize accordingly.

I understand completely, that's what these forums are all about is getting some research in and sharing ideas. I don't have the best info right at hand but I'll put something together and post that up later. I would certainly encourage you to make plenty of calls and get comparable bids for those items you won't be doing yourself. I did the dirt work and framing myself at no labor cost, but did have some family and friends help out along the way. I had concrete, trusses, roofing, and siding hired out. I'll get you some information on cost here soon.

 

[KrucksGarage]

I just went through your whole build thread , Awsome job . I liked your yard and shrubs , green grass , beautiful place.
Where I live those shrubs would be crushed by the tons of snow we get up here. That's the only part of where we live I don't like .
You have a great location , looking forward to your progress.

Hoping your healed up 100 % I know the feeling been there.

Glad you enjoyed the build so far! Thanks!

 

[jkesselr]

Wow, thanks Krucks! I appreciate the willingness to share information!

 

[drivesitfar]

Krucks: other than your fall (I hope you are over any ill effects that caused by now) and the missing cash in your savings accounts i bet you are very happy with your new garage? and does your bride like it too?

here's to a great 2018 and I bet you are looking forward to putting garage doors on and filling that nice space up.

cheers