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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Nick's Two-Car Detached Vdub Garage

Workspaces sized between 265 and 485 squarefeet.
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Ok, here is an update and new project I can share.

But first, since I am always posting big snow piles in winter, here is a pic of our summer gardens. It was 90 F today. :bounce:

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Back to the shop. When I purchased the kitchen toe kick material I got twice as many boards as I needed since I wasn't sure how well the kerf-bending would work and they took 3 weeks to ship. Didn't want to make a mistake and wait another 3 weeks for more. And they were cheap. But since it went well, I had two left over.

As part of the overall kitchen "remodel" I'd been meaning to make some floating shelves next to the stove some glassware. See Sketchup model Exhibit A:

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Looking at the construction of the floating shelves I had purchased for the bathroom a few years ago, I remembered the top and bottom pieces were maple veneered MDF, just like the toe kicks I bought, and edged in hard maple. And they were quite expensive, about $90 each. I had just enough hard maple on hand in the garage to make the appropriate sized shelves for the kitchen, so I thought I would use that and the veneered toe kicks to see if I could make the shelves with material on hand in the same construction method.

To start I ripped the front and sides to width and rabbeted out the top and bottom at the router table to make a "T" shaped profile:

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Then I carefully glued up the front to the sides, making sure everything was as flat and square as possible:

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Then the veneered MDF is cut to size and glued in top and bottom:

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I made the rabbets slightly deeper than the toe kick material so the shelf edging remains ~ 1/16" proud.

This is so they can be flush trimmed back at the router table:

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This leaves a very flush joint and almost the illusion that it is a solid board, even though it is hollow.

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Next I carefully sanded them:

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And made simple cleats of 3/4" plywood with some inexpensive L-brackets for support. These screw into the wall.

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In the above pic you see the back of the shelves, I gently tapped in a friction fit piece of plywood for support of the veneered top and bottom towards the rear of the shelf, leaving a gap for the metal L-brackets to slide into.

I wanted them to be durable so I finished with 3 coats of General Finishes High Performance water-based polyurethane.

Here they are installed:

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I am quite happy with how they turned out -- all the joints are very tight including the miters.

As things are progressing in the kitchen, I'm itching to get to the countertops, but due to cost and Covid it will likely be awhile.

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Man Nick great job on the floating shelves and using materials you had on hand!

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I've been staying busy and have a few things to post but I'm going to break it up into a few posts. So firstly, I recently accomplished some finished touches on the track saw station.

Are you sick of hearing about the track saw station yet? :lol::lol::lol:

I took the MDF top off to machine the 20mm hole grid. I did this on my old bench. Old bench helping build the new bench. Nice.

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Using the same Etsy Woodrave pegboard jig. It doesn't result in a perfectly orthogonal grid, but I don't rely on the grid for angles or square. I just use for clamping, so close enough is good enough for me. I've found in my climate, with the severe humidity and temperature changes, that the MDF expands and contracts and is not reliable enough. Plus the pegboard I used as an indexing template is less than perfect.

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After doing the first half I slide the pegboard down and index with some Parf dogs and do the second half.

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Also, my Misumi Engineering fence extrusion came in, and I needed to route some small T-Track grooves in the worktop for it. I used the extrusion itself as a straight edge guide:

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These small sections of Misumi T-Track will allow the fence to be secured with some L-brackets and allow for adjustability in terms of squaring the fence to the guide rail.

All finished -- 70 dog holes total:

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And here are some photos of the fence attached:

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I have to say the Misumi parts are awesome quality and reasonably priced.

I squared it to the guide rail and did some test cuts on particle board and the results were stellar. About as square a piece as I've had, absolutely no gaps with the Woodpeckers square when held against the shop lights.

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Are you sick of hearing about the track saw station yet? :lol::lol::lol:

No it has been great watching the design process. And it has also convinced me to abandon my design and go buy a MFT/3. You most certainly have better storage but I don’t know if I have the patience to make my own.


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No, never. I'm noting all your ideas so I can make mine :bowdown:

I have a few sheets of veneered mdf available too, the shelves are a great idea for that.

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Looking forward to it :D

No it has been great watching the design process. And it has also convinced me to abandon my design and go buy a MFT/3. You most certainly have better storage but I don’t know if I have the patience to make my own.


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I feel that. I bet you I have 100 build hours into this thing. It did come in less $$$ than an MFT/3 but not by a mile. So price-wise it wasn't a huge gain. Some of the other features are useful for me but nothing that couldn't be incorporated elsewhere. So I guess I'm trying to say I don't think it's foolish to just pick up an MFT/3 instead. :lol:
 
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Playroom Toy Cubby - part 1

I've started a new project! We've been working on turning one of the main floor bedrooms into a "playroom" for my daughter and all her ****, er, I mean toys and books and stuff. My wife wanted to get the standard IKEA bookcase units (KALLAX). I said I wanted to step it up and make some plywood ones. She said well you better get to it, then!

So within milliseconds I whipped up a design in Sketchup:

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Going for kind of a Montessori / Danish modern approach. It's actually more or less a copy of these from Sprout Kids, which cost a small fortune and an arm and a leg.

So I went through the painful process of procuring a 4'x8' sheet of plywood from Home Depot in the age of Covid. Had to rent one of their trucks as our cars can't transport. It was not fun.

Got 'er unloaded across both benches:

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In the future I'd like to make some support extensions that attach to the new bench, but for now this will do.

First task was to make some big rips. And I don't mean farts. To fit 4 "cubbies", I needed the bench to be 56 3/4" long, and my longest tracksaw track is 55". And to maximize cut efficiency I really needed to rip the whole 96" length a few times.

To solve this I made a stupidly simple plywood spacer jig by measuring the offset on a piece of plywood, and clamping another stop block of plywood at that measurement. Then I used that jig to register the track at both ends.

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This allowed me to make half a pass, move the track down, and cut the other half, all the while keeping it very straight.

Another fun thing I tried was Cutlist Optimizer. It's a free web program where you can enter your final dimensions of pieces needed and it will figure out the best way to cut it out of a bigger sheet. You can have it prioritize least amount of material waste, least amount of cuts needed, and consider grain direction.

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It even shows you visually where to cut as you hover over each cutlist item:

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This really helped me keep track of things.

As the pieces got smaller I could move to the main bench only:

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And finally to doing the crosscuts and squaring up the ends with the tracksaw station fence:

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With all the pieces dimensioned I moved into edge banding mode:

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I was very pleased with how this worked out both for applying the edge banding and trimming it. I was able to clamp every piece.

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With all the pieces edge banded I moved into joinery mode, with the biscuit joiner.

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Cutting the biscuits is so quick and painless, but the layout is a bit of a chore. It's easy to get confused (for me, anyways) on how to orient the biscuit joiner.

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For this project I plan to only use biscuits and glue. Well actually there is a back stretcher that might get some pocket holes on the back side, but the main carcass will be biscuits and glue. No one will be sitting on it... I think it will be plenty strong but we shall see.

I left off with a dry fit and everything aligned nicely:

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I plan to get some spindle legs on Amazon, and in my Sketchup I played with this stretcher/support element but I'm not sure if it's even needed.

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Anyone have opinions on that? Seems to me like it would be pretty sturdy without, but I don't want it to sag.
 
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Looks great so far! I doubt you will need the stretcher underneath especially with the back stretcher but if you have the scraps available to do it why not otherwise it will just be left sitting around in the way anyway lol!

Also you aren't trying hard enough to transport stuff with your car! I've got a VW brand roof rack on mine and I regularly haul multiple sheets of 3/4 ply the trick is to run your straps through the inside of the car so you aren't relying on the roof rack to hold anything down. I also generally pick up a couple 2x4's to help reduce the chances of the front of the ply from flapping around and I always seem to find a use for the 2x4's anyway. On this trip I had a specific use in mind so I bought 4 but I usually just grab two. I laugh at all the crazy looks I get as I am loading up my car in the parking lot.
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Also you aren't trying hard enough to transport stuff with your car! I've got a VW brand roof rack on mine and I regularly haul multiple sheets of 3/4 ply the trick is to run your straps through the inside of the car so you aren't relying on the roof rack to hold anything down.

Lol! I actually saw you mention this on Vortex and was going to ask about it. Is there a maximum speed you stay under? I feel like if I did this my car would turn into an airplane but maybe not haha.

I don't currently have roof racks for either of our vehicles but I guess it's an option. No room to store a trailer at my place so I'll probably have to break down and pick up a set eventually as I do more sheet good builds. Because renting the HD pickups is not sustainable. :lol:

Reminds me of this old video I saw from Dan Pattison. Kinda dorky but he has some clever stuff.

 

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BTDT with sheets/lumber on a car roof. My roommate in college drove a Pinto and we made a number of sketchy trips across town for project supplies. We got quite the look from anyone we passed by.

Have you seen the folding HF trailers? I keep going back and forth on picking one up and stashing it behind my garage when not in use. Even though I can haul sheet goods in the minivan, it always leaves a mess, and its kind of a pain to pull out the kids seats and reinstall them each time I need to pick something up. Seem to get pretty decent reviews.

https://www.harborfreight.com/autom...x-96-in-heavy-duty-folding-trailer-62648.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/1720-lb-capacity-48-in-x-96-in-super-duty-folding-trailer-62647.html
 

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Playroom Toy Cubby - part 1

...No one will be sitting on it... I think it will be plenty strong but we shall see...

LOL. For your daughter's ****, er, play room? You're right no one will be sitting on it. Laying, sleeping, jumping and dancing? Yes. But no sitting.:rocker:
 

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Lol! I actually saw you mention this on Vortex and was going to ask about it. Is there a maximum speed you stay under? I feel like if I did this my car would turn into an airplane but maybe not haha.

I don't currently have roof racks for either of our vehicles but I guess it's an option. No room to store a trailer at my place so I'll probably have to break down and pick up a set eventually as I do more sheet good builds. Because renting the HD pickups is not sustainable. :lol:

I try and keep it under 60 most of the time but there's been a few times I've crept up on 75 on accident. I bias the load slightly towards the rear of the car so I can make sure the front is really well secured and that works to keep everything in place. Think about all the times you've seen someone with their arm out the window trying to hold down their flapping mattress even though they've got it tied REALLY tight in the middle lol. If they had just taken the time to secure the front they wouldn't have a problem.

I started with some cheap aftermarket roof racks and didn't even trust them to carry my bike up there so I quickly got rid of them and got the OEM vw ones and they are awesome.
 
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Oh wow, that is faster than I thought. I'm ultimately looking for a place to get better plywood, but the Home Depot I go to I could probably get home on back roads anyways. It's not super far. The VW rack would probably be cheaper for me than getting the Mazda fitted. Idk if I'd want them mounted all the time though, are they pretty easy to get on and off? I'll have to think about it. Car looks good btw!
 
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It seems the forum had an error and has deleted the last several posts here. (It deleted several of mine on others' threads, too). I don't recall what of mine got deleted, but WunTon I am reposting yours below, reconstructed from the email notification I got:

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Oh wow, that is faster than I thought. I'm ultimately looking for a place to get better plywood, but the Home Depot I go to I could probably get home on back roads anyways. It's not super far. The VW rack would probably be cheaper for me than getting the Mazda fitted. Idk if I'd want them mounted all the time though, are they pretty easy to get on and off? I'll have to think about it. Car looks good btw!

The cabinet is looking awesome not that I expected anything less given your past work!

With stuff strapped properly I don't really have any worries on my drive which is about 12 miles from HD with about 10 of it being a 4 lane country highway. The VW racks are great because if you look at the door sill above your your front doors you will notice a small reinforced hole that the VW racks have a corresponding pin to make the install and alignment painless. The rear does not have this but it is pretty easy to get the rear set up anyway. For install and removal the racks come with a tool that I just keep in the door cubby so it's always there. After figuring out the first install I can take the racks on or off in just a matter of a couple minutes by myself. Here is one last picture from the other day of a heavier load I hauled home with the cruise control set at 60 the whole way. It is 6 pressure treated 2x10x10s 1 pressure treated 2x10x8 and 3 sheets of 3/4 subfloor which added up to being pretty damn heavy lol!

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With stuff strapped properly I don't really have any worries on my drive which is about 12 miles from HD with about 10 of it being a 4 lane country highway. The VW racks are great because if you look at the door sill above your your front doors you will notice a small reinforced hole that the VW racks have a corresponding pin to make the install and alignment painless. The rear does not have this but it is pretty easy to get the rear set up anyway. For install and removal the racks come with a tool that I just keep in the door cubby so it's always there. After figuring out the first install I can take the racks on or off in just a matter of a couple minutes by myself. Here is one last picture from the other day of a heavier load I hauled home with the cruise control set at 60 the whole way. It is 6 pressure treated 2x10x10s 1 pressure treated 2x10x8 and 3 sheets of 3/4 subfloor which added up to being pretty damn heavy lol!

Got a part # on the racks, if they do this well for construction material they would probably handle my 17ft kayaks just fine?
 
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Got a part # on the racks, if they do this well for construction material they would probably handle my 17ft kayaks just fine?

Sorry, I meant to quote WunTon with that post, that was his post that got deleted do to a forum crash. I've fixed the quotation in the post above.

Part # would depend on what car you have. For my 2016 4-door Mk7 GTI it looks like 5G4-071-126. But you could check your model on any dealer parts page.

But yeah they should definitely handle kayaks and I believe they have an official kayak holding accessory, too.
 
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*Grrrr, it seems more was lost in the forum crash than I thought. Re-constructing another post I had made below:*

Playroom toy cubby - part 2

Next up was lots of sanding:

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I've found this Festool ETS 125 really works the smoothest when the workpiece is solidly clamped.

For finish I used the same General Finishes High Performance water-based polyurethane I've used before on maple. On maple it is very clear and a little milky, but I was very pleased on the slight touch of warmth it gave the birch ply.

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I decided to pre-finish everything vs. finish after assembled. I don't have a sprayer and thought it would be too tricky to brush inside all the cubes. So I taped off the edges of the dividers and the places where the biscuits were cut in the top and bottom:

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I did not take pics of the glue up because it was stressful AF. I will say pocket-screwing the stretcher in the back as the glue up went down was extremely helpful in squaring things up. It came out pretty decent!

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It's a little gappy in areas because I had nowhere near enough clamps, but nothing someone would notice.

Here it sits glued up, waiting for the legs to arrive from Etsy:

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And because I thought it looked cool, here's an overall pic of the garage with the cars put away and all cleaned up for the evening:

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Playroom toy cubby - part 3

The grand reveal. I got the legs and attached them with pound in t-nuts and super glue.

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My daughter approves. I had showed it to her in the garage so she knew it was coming. She's getting used to that "dada" makes things for the house, and seems to be quite proud, which is a great feeling.

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The height lets her access anything on top of it, too.
 
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Super clean Nick, nicely done. It’s been really fun watching your skills progress over the course of this thread.
 

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Nick, the toy cubby came out great! Your daughter is adorable, growing up quick! We were in the same boat a year or so back. We needed one as well. My wife went out and bought one, and it's JUNK! Already falling apart. Yours will be around for a long, long time no doubt. It looks like it would serve nicely as an entryway bench some day too after she is grown.

Are you planing to get some bins for the cubbies, or use it as is?
 
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Super clean Nick, nicely done. It’s been really fun watching your skills progress over the course of this thread.

Thank you Jake! And thanks for following along, it's been a lot of fun for me too :rocker:

Nick, the toy cubby came out great! Your daughter is adorable, growing up quick! We were in the same boat a year or so back. We needed one as well. My wife went out and bought one, and it's JUNK! Already falling apart. Yours will be around for a long, long time no doubt. It looks like it would serve nicely as an entryway bench some day too after she is grown.

Are you planing to get some bins for the cubbies, or use it as is?

Thank you! Yes, it's crazy, she is 21 months now. As I'm sure you know it's such a fun age. I was thinking the same thing, if the unit is still standing I could repurpose it somewhere else in the house someday. And I know what you mean about quality. Even expensive store-bought furniture can be somewhat flimsy especially if it isn't solid wood. I've had good experiences with the IKEA Kallax units, which I think are reasonably priced, but I wanted to make something for her and practice my sheet goods skills.

It was intended for storage bins, yes. The "cubbies" are 13 1/4" square, and accommodate a 13" storage cube system. I had some picked out at Target but my wife unknowingly picked up some smaller 11" ones. But we're keeping them because 90% of the time my daughter likes to pull them all out on the floor anyways, so a perfect fit is a bit of a silly quest. :lol:

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It looks clean because I picked it up to take the pic, but I can assure you it normally looks like a bomb went off. A nuclear toy bomb. :lol:
 

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Idle thoughts:
- the 13” cabinet look has been pervasive for 50 years because. At least in part that was the standard size required to hold record sleeves. Fun fact.
- having built a fair amount of kid stuff, I always design it in such a way it can be fastened to a wall. This can be a simple bracket, or just a screw through a back board. I’m sure what you’ve built is plenty strong and stable. It just always helps me sleep better at night. Building for kids is like building for drunk frat boys, overbuilt and bolted down is often helpful.
 
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Jake, I did not know that about the 13" size and records. That is cool. I don't have any vinyl myself but maybe one day. My dad has a full Bang & Olufson Beomaster 1900 setup including turntable, fully working, that I hope to inherit one day. :)

Good call on the wall fastening. There is a sizable stretcher in the back of the cabinet so should be pretty easy to rig something up.
 
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So... this is one of three places I usually keep my fasteners:

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It's a mess. I've been meaning to either get some small parts boxes, or make a plywood grid within the drawer. I couldn't find any parts box arrays that would fit this Craftsman unit. And with the plywood grid, I wouldn't be able to take a box of screws over to my assembly area.

By now you probably know I'm a fan of the Tanos Systainers. The place I've ordered from before sent me an email saying the new Systainer3 was available, including the new "Organizer" boxes. These are very similar in function to the Bosch/Sortimo L-BOXX parts boxes. To my surprise they were cheaper than the old Sys1 parts box. I think you can guess what happened.

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Used a 15% off code, got free shipping, and ordered two. :)

They are shorter than a Sys1 and have a clear lid, front handle, and smaller T-Loc latch. I started emptying boxes and packing them out right away.

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Can get rid of all these now:

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The interior boxes have a pattern on the bottom that indexes with the pattern in the bottom of the unit, and the lid has a pattern which locks them in place as well.

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Again, this is similar to Sortimo, and lets you carry the box in any orientation without any of the mini-boxes mixing contents or moving around. Pretty neat.

Suprisingly, they hold a LOT of stuff! I got every fastener I had on hand almost entirely into one box!

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At first they look small, but the interior boxes are fairly deep. The smallest size can hold at least 100x 3/4" #6 wood screws. Not bad. There are literally hundreds of fasteners in this one box.

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I like the separate boxes inside so I can just take the one thing I need to the workbench or in the house or whatever.

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Fully compatible with the T-Locs so I can throw a fastener box onto my 12v drill Systainer and take it to the house.

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Also fits in my workbench... almost makes me which I had some space for these in here.

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After the discount they were about $66 each. So not cheap by any means, but I think they are a well thought out product, and honestly a better value than the standard Systainers. I've seen some people who have a whole hardware store's worth of small parts at home (which is cool :D), but I think I could manage with just the two of these units. Maybe three down the road.
 

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Prediction: Long before your daughter turns 10, you'll have at least 6 more organizer boxes and a dedicated stack to store them. :lol:

Bravo on the over-travel slides allowing the lid to open fully while still in the drawer tray.

The ability to combine parts and tools boxes is great, especially when leaving the shop. I can't do that with the L-Boxx / Tough System / Deep Pro mix in my little world.

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I always enjoy reading this thread and getting new ideas. Did not know the new systainers were out yet. Where did you pick them up from?
 
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I always enjoy reading this thread and getting new ideas. Did not know the new systainers were out yet. Where did you pick them up from?



Cool, glad you like it and thanks for following along! They are available elsewhere (Europe) but I did not know they were out in the U.S. either until a few weeks ago. Maybe they aren’t even, but I got them from the Systainer Store:

https://systainer.store/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz8fq4rHO6gIVj4bACh2eAAplEAAYASAAEgKMYvD_BwE

It’s run by a guy “Sys Tim” based in Michigan who has a good relationship with Tanos and orders from Germany. And there’s a 15% off code for new customers which helps take some sting out of the price.

Also if you like the current gen T-Locs, woodcraft has some good pricing on Amazon right now [emoji16].


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How do you like digging/getting some of the smaller fasteners out of the smaller containers? What I like about the larger boxes they come in is it is easy to get a few fingers in there to dig out 3-10 fasteners at a time. I have big hands, so I am always concerned about small boxes (that is how I met my wife!).
 
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Great review Nick. Seems there is a dealer here too, however looking at $95 Aussie ($66’ish US) for that particular model.

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I guess it did sort of turn into a review, didn't it? I was probably just trying to justify to myself why I bought some expensive plastic boxes :lol:

How do you like digging/getting some of the smaller fasteners out of the smaller containers? What I like about the larger boxes they come in is it is easy to get a few fingers in there to dig out 3-10 fasteners at a time. I have big hands, so I am always concerned about small boxes (that is how I met my wife!).

Oh my. :eyecrazy:

Haven't had much opportunity to use it yet but yes, I can see this being slightly annoying. The small boxes are pretty small. I'd likely just pour a few screws out on the workbench. The boxes themselves remove easily.

Also, you can get a few different box configurations. The ones I got have a mix of sizes, but you could get one without any of the smallest size box, for example.
 
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Prediction: Long before your daughter turns 10, you'll have at least 6 more organizer boxes and a dedicated stack to store them. :lol:

Bravo on the over-travel slides allowing the lid to open fully while still in the drawer tray.

The ability to combine parts and tools boxes is great, especially when leaving the shop. I can't do that with the L-Boxx / Tough System / Deep Pro mix in my little world.

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Ha! You might be right!

I almost missed the boat on the drawer depth. The lids barely clear.

The Systainer stacking is a little silly within the garage, but bringing stuff to the house it's really nice. Because my garage is detached, I've often found myself trying to carry way too many individual tools and fumble through the screen door, often dropping things. My ultimate goal is to have a few neatly organized boxes I can easily bring inside for different things. Another benefit is when I'm doing housework I can pack 'em up nice and neat at the end of the day where my kid can't get them and my wife doesn't view it as a prolonged mess of tools spread all over the counter or floor. Nice and tidy.
 

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So a systainer is basically just an expensive five gallon bucket? Got it...

(I'm kidding of course)

I keep fondling the one that sits in our office that came with some Trumpf tooling. Besides garage use, I can't help but think of how handy they'd be for keeping my hunting gear organized. Damn this forum.
 
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So a systainer is basically just an expensive five gallon bucket? Got it...

Eh, you're not too far off :lol:

I think one downside with the empty Systainers is they come with no internal organization. To really make use of the larger ones you need some custom plywood inserts, dividers, kaizen foam, etc to stay organized. Otherwise it is like throwing a bunch of stuff in a bucket. If you buy a tool (like a Festool, but some others as well) that comes with them, they are usually kitted out with a plastic molded insert that holds the tool and accessories nicely. Without that it does take some extra effort and thought.

And you're certainly not wrong about the expensive part. On every Systainer I've purchased I've waited for the lowest price, or sale, or coupon code, free shipping etc. Anything to bring the price down a bit. If you can find one on sale or good second hand condition, I think they are *slightly* more reasonable. Not sure how big your hunting gear is but they also have a range of smaller sizes that are cheaper.
 

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...If you can find one on sale or good second hand condition, I think they are *slightly* more reasonable...

"Slightly" being the key word... Systainers and Pelican cases seem to really hold their value. They do not pop up on the used market around here all that often. When they do, the condition usually makes it tough to justify the price (for 10-20% more, you could just have new). Ultimately, I'll probably mimic your approach of building the collection over time - identifying a need and then keeping an eye out for a sale.

(As I say that, I see Woodcraft is clearing out the anthracite colored units right now. We'll see what happens... an online auction for a table saw I want ends today.)
 
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I just went through your whole thread, unbelievable. Amazing to see the progress and projects!

Thanks man! It's been a fun ride, hopefully many more projects to come!

"Slightly" being the key word... Systainers and Pelican cases seem to really hold their value. They do not pop up on the used market around here all that often. When they do, the condition usually makes it tough to justify the price (for 10-20% more, you could just have new). Ultimately, I'll probably mimic your approach of building the collection over time - identifying a need and then keeping an eye out for a sale.

(As I say that, I see Woodcraft is clearing out the anthracite colored units right now. We'll see what happens... an online auction for a table saw I want ends today.)

That is true. I've tried to go the used route before but they do hold their value and are often too beat up for my liking. Woodcraft does have some "deals" right now, probably to make room for the new Sys3.

A similar option for the organizers is the Sortimo T-BOXX G. Slightly cheaper, very similar function. But still on the expensive side. Obviously there are much cheaper organizer solutions at Home Depot or Harbor Freight, I think the big thing with these is do you want individual boxes you can take out or not, or be able to stack/lock the boxes together.
 
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I do have an update on the house to post (backyard fencing project), but for now I'll just leave this here as it's raining and I need to take some better pics first.

I managed to get away on a quick long weekend with my in-laws on Minnesota's north shore. If anyone from MN is still following along here you are probably familiar, but it's a pretty unique and distinct landscape on Lake Superior.

Since it's always nice to get a little break from work, projects, and the city, especially in the current climate with Covid and everything else, I thought I would share some pics of the scenery.

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Hike along Knife River:

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Gooseberry Falls:

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One night a crazy storm rolled in. I couldn't capture it on my phone but the most amazing lightning storm peppered the whole horizon on the lake for an hour.

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The rental property had telescopes and with a break in the clouds both Jupiter and Saturn were extremely bright to the naked eye out over the lake. Through the telescope you could make out Saturn's rings, as well as four of Jupiter's moons in orbit. Super cool. We were also able to spot comet Neowise through binoculars.

Ok, back to regular programming with the next post. :lol:
 

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Don't let Nick fool any of you, those pics were taken in California. There's nothing to see on MN's North Shore. There's definitely not a lot of good hiking trails, the food is terrible at all the neat little Mom and Pop restaurants you come across, nobody knows how to brew beer at any of the craft places, and Duluth might be the most annoying place I've ever visited due to that dumb bridge that always goes up and down. Save yourself the trouble and don't visit.

Was that place a VRBO type rental? If so, could you shoot me a PM? We'd like to find a spot like that for a family vacation one of these years.
 
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