Falcon's next shop - build thread

[Falcon67]

Good job. Now that it's cooling off, you should be able to move faster - as soon as you heal up.

Once I get past this weekend - I think. I have lots of vacation hours saved up but work load is too high right now to take any. The cooler weather is really welcome! It was 104F on Saturday, Sunday was 84F and it'll be 52 in the morning. I put up the fly rafters on the west end tonight and didn't come in dripping like I'd laid under a sprinkler. How weird. Temps great for decking this week, but not gonna happen.

 

[rickairmedic]

LOL Chris the weather has been freaky 101 on Saturday here and 59 this morning . The garage is looking good your making progress .


Rick

 

[emeraldcoupe]

nice build man. i'm jealous of you guys who have the space to build like that.

you guys just run the 8th? nice thing about central fl is i have 2 nice 1/4's about an hour in each direction, and a few 1/8's about the same.

 

[Falcon67]

Thanks very much!

LOL Chris the weather has been freaky 101 on Saturday here and 59 this morning . The garage is looking good your making progress .

We set maybe a half dozen record highs in August, all over 100F. We're 6 days into September and we broke a record low yesterday morning at 46F. Previous record was 53 set in 1889! I imagine that is because we are so dry - 11% RH yesterday. Places west of here were single digit humidity. You can practically squirt the water hose up in the air and nothing comes down.

>you guys just run the 8th?
All 1/8. Closest 1/4 is about 230 miles - Texas Motorplex or Dallas Raceway. We run our bracket finals (IHRA) 1/8 at Dallas. NHRA brackets go to the Motorplex and constantly argue about 1/8 or 1/4 every year. 90% of the tracks are 1/8, so everyone is geared for that except people running divisional/ProAm stuff.

 

[Vernmotor]

Home track is 1/8 but most other are 1/4...there are 4-6 1/8 and 10-15 1/4 in ohio.. we have the same debate up here..1/4 mile people do not like to run 1/8 makes them think to fast LOL. I believe that nhra bracket finals are run 1/8 at indy. We run both all the time so don't matter to us..

 

[NUTTSGT]

Home track is 1/8 but most other are 1/4...there are 4-6 1/8 and 10-15 1/4 in ohio.. we have the same debate up here..1/4 mile people do not like to run 1/8 makes them think to fast LOL. I believe that nhra bracket finals are run 1/8 at indy. We run both all the time so don't matter to us..

Pacemakers?



Chris, the garage is really shaping up nicely. Are you shingling the roof or using metal ? I'm wondering what time of the day you'll be able to be on the roof with out tearing up the shingles.

Off-topic, what make is your open trailer ?

 

[Falcon67]

I was going to get decking Saturday since the cars would be at the track, but then I thought about having to move the sheets twice so I'll just wait. I plan to go get the trim (Hardi 4x8 so I can cut to fit) and exchange the 6 each 2x6x14s that are junk/unusable. That would be enough to finish the perimeter. I will be using regular 3 tab shingles that match the house. I hope to be able to take a couple of days off sometime after the decking so I can shingle and get that done. Maybe 10 days if lucky. The weather is turning and later next week highs may stay in the 80s. I can also work 1/2 days and just shingle in the morning. It should go fairly fast with the nail gun.

Friday is daughter and 2nd grandson birthday and dad here is cooking the meat. Track opens at 2 Saturday so I may get the mowing and soffit work at least partially done.

The steel floor trailer is a Maxey 16' bed. It has brakes on both axles and a rear hitch in case I need it. The Mustang rides on a wood floor 16' Big Tex with single axle brakes.

 

[Vernmotor]

Yep Pacemakers...You been there ?

 

[NUTTSGT]

The steel floor trailer is a Maxey 16' bed. It has brakes on both axles and a rear hitch in case I need it. The Mustang rides on a wood floor 16' Big Tex with single axle brakes.

My 16' open trailer is titled as a Tex-Mex, but looks almost the same as yours, including the pin-striping.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Yep Pacemakers...You been there ?

Been there once for a track rental, about 12-13 years ago with Buckeye dragracers.

 

[Vernmotor]

Well it's change abit since then..new tower..and a flew things

 

[NUTTSGT]

Hey Chris, where ya been man ?

 

[Falcon67]

******* with other stuff LOL

"Pro Footbrake: Chris Kelly won in Pro Footbrake, handing Robert Hector his second runner up of the night. Chris ran 8.235 on an 8.22 for the win. Robert broke out, driving 8.255 under his 8.27 dial. There was a little bit of a brake-fest at the finish line at the end of this round."

[Bracket jargon] I had an .032 to his .045 light and I thought I had a decent light. When Robert came around me just before we hit the MPH box I figured he was going to break out so I took him to the line and dumped him big. Got lucky that time.

It's homecoming week and my daughter+ some of the PeeWee football moms are using one of our trailers for a parade float, so I'm the "engineering" consultant on that this week. The house garage is full of cardboard and sticks right now LOL. I'll be pulling whatever it is on Friday in the parade. Should get back on the job Saturday. I did get most of the west end gable framing done before the race on Saturday so I'm not a complete slacker.

 

[rickairmedic]

Chris even small progress is progress . You at least dont have to worry about being dried in by winter like we do up here .


Congrats on another win by the way .


Rick

 

[Vernmotor]

Good job on the win! nice dump !

 

[Falcon67]

Chris even small progress is progress . You at least dont have to worry about being dried in by winter like we do up here .


Congrats on another win by the way .


Rick

Thanks y'all. Nice to get a win sticker on the last weekend of the season. But now in my points class - Modified - I haven't been able to drive ****. Mostly wind two rounds and out. Made it to the quarters on Sunday before the car ran .07 off dial, which is just about instant death around here.

The weather service seems to think we're going to stay "dried in' here until at least next fall. After all the snow and stuff we got last winter, now they are going on about a dry fall and winter. I'm pushing for dry in, but if it came 40 days and 40 nights not me or anyone else would complain. The daughter, son-in-law and two grandkids of our department secretary at work lost their house in the Bastrop fire. They kept it for two days while the wind was out of the north from the last cold front. The minute the wind changed the fire jumped back across the road and it was gone. Some rain would be kinda nice.

 

[Wingnut65]

I wish we could pack up and send you the rain we've had recently. Still trying to figure out how to FedEx or even e-mail 2" of rain to Texas!

Sorry to hear about their loss. My heart breaks every newscast that reports on the fires. It is nothing that any family has done to deserve any natural disaster from taking everything from them.

BTW, Congrats on the win. What's that old saying... First On Race Day...?

 

[NUTTSGT]

It's coming along Chris. Are you planning on trimming up that tree (Mesquite ?) or taking it down completely ?

Congrats on the win, nice end to a season.

I hope you guys get some rain, if it's only around the fires.

 

[1Garageman]

Congratulations on the win! That is one hell of a way to end the season!

 

[Falcon67]

It's coming along Chris. Are you planning on trimming up that tree (Mesquite ?) or taking it down completely ?

It's trimmed back just enough. I set the shop so we could keep it. Besides, it'd easy cost $1000 to get it out of there. It's a big one - I had to cut a 6" branch to clear the shop wall.

 

[GilmourGarage]

All 1/8. Closest 1/4 is about 230 miles - Texas Motorplex or Dallas Raceway. We run our bracket finals (IHRA) 1/8 at Dallas. NHRA brackets go to the Motorplex and constantly argue about 1/8 or 1/4 every year. 90% of the tracks are 1/8, so everyone is geared for that except people running divisional/ProAm stuff.

first off.... AWESOME build... and so FAST... way more than mine. haha.
Cannot wait to see it to completion. least you are not against the wire (wire being winter)

next..
230 miles!! where are you living Chris? When I was in Austin I think the closest 1/4mi track was the San Antonio Raceway.

I havent ran my car at a legit prepped track yet... not till the cage and slicks get put on. I did run at a charity event though. At an airstrip.. haha. 1/8mi. but it was clean concrete... I spun so much.. i put a link to a video... i blew the tires up... but thats what street tires and 850hp will do on a daily driver. lol. With all the spin.. my best run was 8.3. Next season I want to do a 6s in the 1/8 and mid 10s in the 1/4.... not bad for a daily driver... then again.. we are much faster up here in Michigan ;-)

cant embed in this section??

I think the detail for the photoshoot below was done by Red Falcon

 

[Falcon67]

> then again.. we are much faster up here in Michigan ;-)
Ha. We had to chill a Shelby at the June T-N-T - ran 7.48 on street tires. No cage or other safety gear. He had to lift about 500' out and coast through in the 7.50s.

Nice runs - little scary on that bare concrete. We've run at SAR several times in the past at the bracket finals. Nice facility, except for the crazy dude that lives at the end of the track. We're 150ish miles west of Fort Worth. SAR is about the same distance from here as Crandall - within 40 miles or so. I think it's around 260 mi down there.

MI is nice - in the summer LOL.

 

[GilmourGarage]

> then again.. we are much faster up here in Michigan ;-)
Ha. We had to chill a Shelby at the June T-N-T - ran 7.48 on street tires. No cage or other safety gear. He had to lift about 500' out and coast through in the 7.50s.

Nice runs - little scary on that bare concrete. We've run at SAR several times in the past at the bracket finals. Nice facility, except for the crazy dude that lives at the end of the track. We're 150ish miles west of Fort Worth. SAR is about the same distance from here as Crandall - within 40 miles or so. I think it's around 260 mi down there.

MI is nice - in the summer LOL.

in the summer is right. hahahah
dang, 260 miles is a heck of a trek.

good luck on the rest of the build.. will be watching.

 

[Motown 454]

The buildings looking great.

 

[onewaydave]

Good build. 3" rain in Texas???? My brother in College Station is begging for rain.

Post #24. Chop saw in a wheel barrow?

Post #46. Love that Milky Way pic!

Dave.

 

[Falcon67]

Good build. 3" rain in Texas???? My brother in College Station is begging for rain.

Post #24. Chop saw in a wheel barrow?

Post #46. Love that Milky Way pic!

Dave.

#24 - they were cutting rebar. They put it on the ground later and I hosed the whole area because a lot of sparks went blasting into the dry grass. It's a wonder there wasn't a flare up.

30% chance of rain by 1 PM today, 30% tomorrow. Might get stuff done, might not! Rained a little on us last night and had to put all the homecoming trailer decorations in the garage. If it does come, it won't be much.

 

[1Garageman]

So how much more do you have to do before you start doing the roof and outside walls?

 

[Falcon67]

So how much more do you have to do before you start doing the roof and outside walls?

Almost there. I need to have all the eve, soffit, etc framing and the strongbacks done. Trying to get there this week so I can go get decking. The plan then is to deck, paper and shingle, facia, soffit, doors/windows, siding. Delays - It's always something - have to take the truck in Monday to the dealer to replace the right rear window lift gizmo - $370 out of the budget for that. Playing hurt with a tooth losing a filling and exposing the nerve. Dentist on vacation for 2 weeks, then that'll be another $300+ easy. Self insured on dental - double ouch.

Got a lot done this weekend - the gables are all framed out for soffits.

Started on the long wall soffits, but I'll need more 2x6s to finish there.

Corners - err, cornice returns - framed.

Strongbacks started - trying to get all the "up" work done, then finish the lower soffits.

All work and no play makes Chris a hungry boy. Break time or Sunday supper. Chew on the left side and it'll be OK,

 

[Wingnut65]

Chris, The build it really coming along nice. Your attention to details is great. I always live the smell of cut wood. Keep it going.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Chris,

Can you explain these "strongbacks" ? I don't believe I've ever seen this before.

 

[Falcon67]

Extra bracing to help support the rafters and keep the rafters in line (more or less) and the joists in line and on even plane (more or less - try telling a 2x12 where it needs to go, especially if it's bowed). Several of the rafters are bowed along their length and 24" OC spacing is going to be hard to maintain on every rafter. Houses around here use them a lot - these are copies of what's in the attic of the house. Usually the base would lay over a wall but my joists are so big it doesn't really matter. Makes for a strong roof and gives the not so true 12' 2x4s something to do.

Some good roof info here:
http://www.nachi.org/roof-framing-part1-2.htm

 

[Sterff]

Looks great so far! I wish I had the knowledge to build a nice shop like that.

 

[Falcon67]

Now we're in the "woofin' bidness" (from a local roofer commercial). Got most of the deck laid and secured Saturday, Sunday. The last 5 big ones went up Monday. Wife hoisted off the trailer and I drug them into place. The only thing worse than teetering on a 5/12 slope of decking hanging on to a big 4x8 piece of OSB is teetering on a 5/12 slope of decking hanging on to a big 4x8 piece of OSB with a charlie horse in both calfs. That was the closest I came to coming down without the ladder. Should finish up the deck tomorrow. The goal is dry in by Sunday. Heading to Lowes tomorrow for a roll of TriFlex and 30 lb felt plus a box of coiled roofing nails, then to McCoys for a few sheets of 1/4 x 4 x 8 Hardi trim material. Will have to rip my own facia but it's about 1/3 less than buying pre cut. Besides, nothing is standard dimensions on the eves anyhow.

Started 3' in on the west end because the spacing just didn't work out.

Sunday readings - top surface 134F, inner surface 108F.

There's work on the west end but only 4 cuts to trim out the east end.

No, it's 27" to the ridge, not 24 dammit. But I have enough sheets left to cut the odd sizes. Or I need a 5' wide ridge vent. Oh - and I'm on my SECOND box of 1000 count 8D ring shanks. Whoda thunk it.

 

[chickenhauler]

The only thing worse than teetering on a 5/12 slope of decking hanging on to a big 4x8 piece of OSB is teetering on a 5/12 slope of decking hanging on to a big 4x8 piece of OSB with a charlie horse in both calfs.

No kidding. I got them when I was doing my ridge cap. 6/12 pitch on a new, slippery metal roof is tough enough, the charlie horses just about sent me into a panic attack. Buy yourself a couple pounds of bananas, the potassium always seemed to help me.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Extra bracing to help support the rafters and keep the rafters in line (more or less) and the joists in line and on even plane (more or less - try telling a 2x12 where it needs to go, especially if it's bowed). Several of the rafters are bowed along their length and 24" OC spacing is going to be hard to maintain on every rafter. Houses around here use them a lot - these are copies of what's in the attic of the house. Usually the base would lay over a wall but my joists are so big it doesn't really matter. Makes for a strong roof and gives the not so true 12' 2x4s something to do.

Some good roof info here:
http://www.nachi.org/roof-framing-part1-2.htm

Gotcha, some what similar to a knee wall. Good idea with those long rafters.

 

[Falcon67]

Decking completed!

A little shade to work in at least. Well, except for the shingling. I was cutting a lot of HardiSoffit in there yesterday and it was nice not to be out in the sun so much.

Facia trim finished Sunday just in time for dinner. No problem cuttind the Hardi, it cuts clean with a carbide tipped blade. The soffit stuff is only 1/4" thick and kinda fragile. Slicing it up creates a TON of concrete dust. I think the dogs have lung issues now. I cut up about 4 4x8 sheets into 6 1/2" facia covers and 2 1/2" trim pieces. Lots of cutting. Piles of dust left too - looks like I emptied a fireplace full of ashes on the floor. But it looks good with only a few oopies. Hey, that's why they sell caulk.

Monday - flash and paper. Then nothing for a week due to other commitments.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Shade and a breeze, probably about the best enjoyed time working yet.

 

[Briggs]

Looking good, keep up the hard work. I know how you feel with the heat. Make sure to drink plenty of water, I know its starting to cool down but that gatorade is not going to hydrate you as well as water. Im jelly you can do all your own framing.

 

[Falcon67]

Thanks everyone! Hydration - I mostly drink water now with Crystal Light flavors in it. Croc Assist is getting quite pricey.

Got some flashing on and three rows of TriFlex in place. Should be all black tomorrow.

Another night shot for fun.

 

[rickairmedic]

Chris its looking really good over there . You keep it up and I can see toolboxes moving in there before the new year .


Rick