Vinko
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Guys at my shop are freaking out over this drill. I'll definitely place another order if they're available!
Fein ASCM 18 QX
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Mgnu
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Love this drill, but I think my chuck might have an issue. When I tighten it, no more than a few clicks it won't loosen without making a ratcheting sound all the to wide open, it then continues to operate like a normal chuck, making no ratcheting sounds either forward or back. I'm going to play with it a bit more to be certain.
Ergonomics: I love the handle of this drill much better than the M18 Fuel hammer drill. It's a bit longer than the M18, the body of the drill is also a bit fatter (perhaps a more robust brushless motor causes this).
The external handle is also better than M18. You can select a number of preset angles around the circle of the chuck housing.
Correction to the above: it's when i open the chuck all the way, with a bit of force, then try to close the chuck. That is when I get the ratcheting noise.
Also - Shane is pretty dang awesome and contacted me immediately. I'll be working with him to see if this needs to be replaced or if it is indeed normal.
Ergonomics: I love the handle of this drill much better than the M18 Fuel hammer drill. It's a bit longer than the M18, the body of the drill is also a bit fatter (perhaps a more robust brushless motor causes this).
The external handle is also better than M18. You can select a number of preset angles around the circle of the chuck housing.
Correction to the above: it's when i open the chuck all the way, with a bit of force, then try to close the chuck. That is when I get the ratcheting noise.
Also - Shane is pretty dang awesome and contacted me immediately. I'll be working with him to see if this needs to be replaced or if it is indeed normal.
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This is the same for me as well, was wondering the same as you. But since we both experience it, perhaps that's normal operation? It does seem a little strange, doesn't affect the chuck's operation but I was curious.
However, this appears to be a great drill, hope everyone who was thinking about it jumped on board. The Tool Nut $1.99 t-shirts are nice too btw...Shane, you guys are great in my book
Youngguns
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I have an older NiCad 18V Dewalt drill that does this exact same thing. Maybe we should just avoid opening the chuck all the way?
acer66
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That seems to be a Rohm thing, I have Rohm chucks on Bosch, Festool and now Fein drills and they all make that sound once in a while.
Mgnu
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Interesting. I sent a video into Shane to see what they think and say about it. Will let you guys know the outcome, or Shane can too if he wishes.
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acer66
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I just played a bit with the chuck and it looks like it only does that when you open the chuck all the way.
Where is the fun in that?
At least some of the older Dewalt drills also had Rohm chucks.
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Youngguns
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I just played a bit with the chuck and it looks like it only does that when you open the chuck all the way.
Where is the fun in that?
At least some of the older Dewalt drills also had Rohm chucks.
I don't understand, have we all tried to fit something just a little too big in our drills? lol
shanetoolnut
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Fellas, so we checked this out and I want to report that this is normal behavior for the chuck. We checked multiple Fein drills and even the Festool ratcheting chuck and they all exhibit the same thing. No need to worry and like I told @mgnu via email, you've got a full 3-year warranty to cover you down the road.
I realize that getting a great deal like this makes you question why it's such a good deal and if there's something wrong with the drill/chuck/batteries/etc. I totally get that, so please use the heck out of it and if there's anything wrong, we'll help you get it right.
Now, on to the good news... You guys asked for it and we're delivering it!
We will have a sweet, sweet suhhhhhhhhmokin' deal for you on the Fein AFSC 18 Cordless Supercut. The perfect complement to that shiny new drill with a set of extra batteries. We'll have a very limited number of these as well as a price that'll knock your socks off. So, subscribe to our email to get notified and jump on it quickly.
I don't want to break the forum rules by posting about it myself and being considered a spammer. But, it'll be significantly cheaper than anywhere you can find it online. Note: the current price on our website, is not the promotional pricing, so hang tight.
Shane
I realize that getting a great deal like this makes you question why it's such a good deal and if there's something wrong with the drill/chuck/batteries/etc. I totally get that, so please use the heck out of it and if there's anything wrong, we'll help you get it right.
Now, on to the good news... You guys asked for it and we're delivering it!
We will have a sweet, sweet suhhhhhhhhmokin' deal for you on the Fein AFSC 18 Cordless Supercut. The perfect complement to that shiny new drill with a set of extra batteries. We'll have a very limited number of these as well as a price that'll knock your socks off. So, subscribe to our email to get notified and jump on it quickly.
I don't want to break the forum rules by posting about it myself and being considered a spammer. But, it'll be significantly cheaper than anywhere you can find it online. Note: the current price on our website, is not the promotional pricing, so hang tight.
Shane
Ahh **** I just wish it wasn't so soon I need to replenish my tool buying funds!!Fellas, so we checked this out and I want to report that this is normal behavior for the chuck. We checked multiple Fein drills and even the Festool ratcheting chuck and they all exhibit the same thing. No need to worry and like I told @mgnu via email, you've got a full 3-year warranty to cover you down the road.
I realize that getting a great deal like this makes you question why it's such a good deal and if there's something wrong with the drill/chuck/batteries/etc. I totally get that, so please use the heck out of it and if there's anything wrong, we'll help you get it right.
Now, on to the good news... You guys asked for it and we're delivering it!
We will have a sweet, sweet suhhhhhhhhmokin' deal for you on the Fein AFSC 18 Cordless Supercut. The perfect complement to that shiny new drill with a set of extra batteries. We'll have a very limited number of these as well as a price that'll knock your socks off. So, subscribe to our email to get notified and jump on it quickly.
I don't want to break the forum rules by posting about it myself and being considered a spammer. But, it'll be significantly cheaper than anywhere you can find it online. Note: the current price on our website, is not the promotional pricing, so hang tight.
Shane
Fellas, so we checked this out and I want to report that this is normal behavior for the chuck. We checked multiple Fein drills and even the Festool ratcheting chuck and they all exhibit the same thing. No need to worry and like I told @mgnu via email, you've got a full 3-year warranty to cover you down the road.
I realize that getting a great deal like this makes you question why it's such a good deal and if there's something wrong with the drill/chuck/batteries/etc. I totally get that, so please use the heck out of it and if there's anything wrong, we'll help you get it right.
Now, on to the good news... You guys asked for it and we're delivering it!
We will have a sweet, sweet suhhhhhhhhmokin' deal for you on the Fein AFSC 18 Cordless Supercut. The perfect complement to that shiny new drill with a set of extra batteries. We'll have a very limited number of these as well as a price that'll knock your socks off. So, subscribe to our email to get notified and jump on it quickly.
I don't want to break the forum rules by posting about it myself and being considered a spammer. But, it'll be significantly cheaper than anywhere you can find it online. Note: the current price on our website, is not the promotional pricing, so hang tight.
Shane
I'll be first in line to buy! That's exactly what I was hoping for after the drill! I'm glad I waited to buy an oscillating tool till now.
Also would that be against the forum rules? Astro Pneumatic is always posting about their own deals on woot.
Also also, I'll try to get one as early as possible and do a big photo / video review like the drill to help others decide. I had fun doing that and I think it was useful. I also just got a new camera that takes video.
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shanetoolnut
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Hot Deals Rules
But, I'm sure someone will find it worthy of sharing. At least, I hope... Ha.
Really, I came to the forum to help support you guys, not to push our wares.
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Mgnu
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Thanks for the email earlier Shane, and thanks for the great service.
It Fein impact driver isn't nearly as impressive as the 4 speed brush less drill. The Fein impact driver is just a rebadged brushed Milwaukee M18 the old version Milwaukee doesn't sell that old style impact driver anymore. I can see if you wanted to have the same battery platform, but value/performance wise there are better options.
wizness
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Don't need this at all as I have multiple drills but screw it. At this price it's hard to go wrong. Hope it's awesome.
Youngguns
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Received my first Fein today. It looks pretty damn gorgeous, and also came with a bit box! I specifically received "Impact Bit Box 29" which includes PZ2, PZ3, and Torx 15, 20, 25, 30, and 40.
greenlizard
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When using a hole saw the darn things always seem to hang up near the break through. This Fein has some kind of electronic sensor that causes the drill to "beep!" and stop the power immediately when the hole saw hangs up. This is major cool and different from the usual mechanical clutch most modern drills have. If you've ever had a powerful drill try to break your wrist you'll understand. Release the trigger and press again to restart the drill. This function alone makes me very glad to have purchased the Fein.
Negen
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I haven't tested hole saw's yet but I have used it to drive some screws and I like that it also beeps and stops completely when the dial is at say setting 3 and the screw reaches the torque rating. By far this is the best hand drill I have ever used.
CobraChevelle
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Guess I wasn't the lucky one for the bit set
It's actually the SuperCut, which I think is the heavier duty or more powerful version. It does look like it's a kit with no accessories though, so I'm wondering how this will compare because for example the Fein MultiMaster from TN has a ton of accessories:
http://www.toolnut.com/Fein_FMM250QTOP_Multimaster_Oscillating_Tool_Kit_p/fmm250qtop.htm
I wonder how much all those accessories are worth because as far as I know Oscillating tool blades and such can add up.
shanetoolnut
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That MM 250 you linked to on our site is a discontinued model, so it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison. Yes, it'll be the cordless SUPERCUT, not Multimaster, with charger and two batteries. No blades included, but for what we're knocking off the price you could get a quite a nice assortment of blades and still be ahead of the next closest price online.
It may not be the right deal for everyone, but it'll be quite a deal if you want a top-of-the-line cordless OMT from the inventor of the category, Fein, that's made in Germany.
It may not be the right deal for everyone, but it'll be quite a deal if you want a top-of-the-line cordless OMT from the inventor of the category, Fein, that's made in Germany.
Interesting comment about power of drill try to break your wrist. That does not sound fun and glad that I never encounter such situation. I am not saying I don't believe you but in what sort of situation would one need to be careful of possible wrist injury so I can be aware? I don't work in industrial and only do normal diy around house with the tools I buy at hd/lowes.
Right, I wasn't saying that was a comparison to the tool. I was just showing that one has a boatload of accessories. I almost wonder if you could get all those accessories for 200$. Especially considering that one includes 6 extra blades. Maybe buy the SC cordless deal, and buy that one to get all the accessories, then sell the corded tool on eBay or CL or something
For example, the Carbide Segment Saw blade included in that kit is 30$ at a lot of other stores by itself. The triangular rasp is 25$. Those 6 E-Cut blades are probably worth 50$. It looks to add up to quite a bit more than that kit.
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shanetoolnut
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We have a Fein 6-piece blade set in a storage case that'll hold 30 blades. It's $50 and a good starter kit with a good assortment of general purpose blades.
I have the Festool Vecturo which is the same tool essentially as the Supercut, and it's made by Fein. It's a great tool and I would have preferred a cordless model if there was one available. Could sell my Vecturo and snag one of these cordless Supercuts and probably end up with cash left over, but I'll save the deal for you guys.
But, that MM 250Q was a great deal too when we were running it. We sold a couple of 'em.
I have the Festool Vecturo which is the same tool essentially as the Supercut, and it's made by Fein. It's a great tool and I would have preferred a cordless model if there was one available. Could sell my Vecturo and snag one of these cordless Supercuts and probably end up with cash left over, but I'll save the deal for you guys.
But, that MM 250Q was a great deal too when we were running it. We sold a couple of 'em.
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acer66
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Wow, never heard about feature like that before so back to debate with myself if can justify to myself buying a second set.
Come to think about it, I could surprise myself for christmas.
Almost every time you use it, newer cordless models are more powerful then they used to be so if a bit catches while drilling and you, the royal you, did not pay the proper attention the drill might try to rotate and twist and damage your wrist.
I hardly use the clutch and have it on full power so on the lower gears the drill has quite some torque and I am also guilty not to use the handle very often.
Thanks, learned something new
. Now time to google this clutch thing for drill and see if my 10 old hitachi drill has it. My hitachi is not that powerful so I should be ok. But on newer drill, I will need to be extra careful or get this Fein and not worry about wrist injury.shanetoolnut
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The electronic clutch is an advantage of a brushless motor. Drills with brushed motors must use a mechanical clutch like most of us are used to. Brushless motors were first used around 2005 by Panasonic if memory serves. Festool and Fein have been using them since about 2007. Most other drill manufacturers have added them to their offerings in recent years.
If you're running a large bit, I would recommend using the included handle for the drill to reduce the risk of it catching and taking you for a ride. There is a lot of torque at play here, so it really can hurt you.
If you're running a large bit, I would recommend using the included handle for the drill to reduce the risk of it catching and taking you for a ride. There is a lot of torque at play here, so it really can hurt you.
When I was a young man and was first given a old, heavy, "electric hand drill". I was named to me as a "wrist breaker" by way of warning. You held those monsters in such a way that they would roll-out of your hand if the tool started spinning when the drill (bit) stopped. I still got surprised a time or two.
But the phrase "wrist breaker" makes an impression on a young person. The way we describe a dead snag in a tree as a "widow maker" today when we are teaching a young person to run a chain saw.
graffix000
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Just payed up. Don't necessarily need it, but am excited to get a new tool, and a steal at this price.
I remember when the Dewalt brushless drills launched and people freaked out about the E-clutch on them. That's the one thing I wonder if Milwaukee will add with One-key is an electronic clutch. Right now they are still using a mechanical one.
rice rocket
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I thought the Wonky was e-clutch?
I think it has to be. You can use your smart phone to set the torque limit.
I'm pretty sure I read that the One-key drills will have an electronic clutch. I'm kind of torn, I like the sound and feel of the mechanical clutch...but the pros are hard to deny.
acer66
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Another day I learned something, this is my first brushless tool and I was not aware of that.
Thank you
shanetoolnut
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Maybe I should have offered some more info about what the advantages are of brushless motors...
I think you guys are going to be blown away with how long those batteries go before needing a charge.
- Brushless motors are typically 80% efficient, brushed motors are typically 50% efficient.
- Efficiency equates to more available volts out given the same battery, which means more energy can be utilized when compared to a brushed motor using the same battery.
- More powerful. As an example, a 15-volt brushless cordless drill using brushless motor technology will offer as much as 39% more power than an 18-volt brushed motor drill.
- Up to 60% more torque at the bit
- No wear parts = longer motor life
- Electronic Clutch
- Less noise vs. brushed motors
I think you guys are going to be blown away with how long those batteries go before needing a charge.
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