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It was early 2022, after the sale of my business, that we started seriously looking for something with a bit more space, and most importantly, a decent sized outbuilding.

Those familiar with the UK housing market will know, its pretty expensive, especially in the south east, where we lived, space is hard to find and large barns or outbuilding on a domestic property, virtually non exsistent.

Trying to get planning for a large building at a domestic property, is even harder still.

As we lived in the southeast, where house values are high, it made sense to look elsewhere, which for affordable means heading west, or north. Many, many hours were spent on righmove, the UK's main property website, looking for something suitable. Even looking in the cheaper parts of the country, budget was limited and options scarce. Whilst we were happy with a project, it needed to not to be a total basket case.

The search focussed, on Wales, or possibly, the north west. Lots of nice stuff, but always too expensive. The affordable stuff, whilst the house was usually, bearable, the outbuildings were the usual dilapidated agricultural sheds needing extensive work to turn into something useful. Which aside from the work can carry some planning permission risk too.

Many hours scrolling later, this picture catches my eye.

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Looked great!

Appointment duly booked for a viewing. The following saturday was a trip to mid Wales.

The barn was fantastic, the house, well, needed some work, but was essentially sound, with a lot of expenditure having recently been made. But whose worried about the house? Priorities and all that.

A couple of hours later, we were pretty sure this was a property to make an offer on.

Having been here before, this generally hasnt gone our way, so we were very surprised our offer was accepted.

There was a lot of "what the hell have we done!" moments.

Actually buying it proved a long drawn out process, especially as the previous time it was sold was in the 70's, so long before electronic registration. This and some other issues did at times make us think we would never get it over the line. But towards the ens of '22, finally, it was ours.

Heres a few more pictures of our aquisition.

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Obviously this was over a year ago, and lots has happened since. The move, geting the house livable etc, has been pretty frantic, hence only really getting round to this now.

As i dig out and organise all the pictures, ill try to update with any interesting stuff.
 
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An added bonus with the barn was the accomadation contained within it. Handily, it comes with a kitchen & toilet downstairs, what is now my office upstairs.

Whilst i probably wouldnt have gone this far myself, there no real downside to any of it, and being able to set up my home office easily was a result.

These pics were from the sales agents before we got it. The rather nice bench remained, along with the blue / grey racking. Everything else was gone, even when we went to view. Sadly, that included all the lighting!! More on that another time.

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What a space! I'm intrigued, will you be using the garage for business or just hobbies? Did you up sticks and leave life/career etc behind to move to Wales for this adventure?

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What a space! I'm intrigued, will you be using the garage for business or just hobbies? Did you up sticks and leave life/career etc behind to move to Wales for this adventure?

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Primarily its just for hobbies. I have a full time job now. As per my first post, i sold the business but still work for the new owner. Perversely, and largely by accident, im only 10mins further from HQ near kidderminster, than i was before i moved! I primarily work from home, or otherwise travelling to visit customers. Wife also works from home.

So yes, we did upsticks as you say, but from a work perspective, no real change. Its one of the most sparesly populated areas of the UK, so, certainly not for everyone, im sure, but it suits us. We are over a year in, no regrets.
 

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Excellent, that's worked out well then! I think if both the missus and I worked from home, I'd be hidden away in the garage!
Place looks amazing, absolutely massive too. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it mate.
 
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Excellent, that's worked out well then! I think if both the missus and I worked from home, I'd be hidden away in the garage!
Place looks amazing, absolutely massive too. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it mate.

Stay tuned :):):)
 

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Pictures look fantastic, and so very familiar! We decided Wales was just that little bit too far, hence Worcestershire was where we ended up. Barn looks fantastic - very jealous of the block work walls!
 
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Pictures look fantastic, and so very familiar! We decided Wales was just that little bit too far, hence Worcestershire was where we ended up. Barn looks fantastic - very jealous of the block work walls!

Cavity walls as well!!! Though i suspect thats more to keep sideways rain out than anything else.

Worcestershire, Herefordshire and Shropshire were all on the list, but sadly that bit more expensive.
 
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as a fellow brit I'm seriously jealous and, yes, the cost of housing is bonkers - it's now around £400k for a semi round our way

Which is essentially what this cost. The house, the barn, the land, all of it.

Obviously its cheap, primarily because there is little work locally, but fortunately thats not much of a concern for us.
 
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I didnt actually mention barn or land sizes in my previous posts.

The barn is 40 x 80 ft. So 3200sqft. The canopy at the front a bit over another 1000sqft

Land is five acres approximately. Not calculated the pond/lake size? Is it a pond or a lake?

Not had a canopy before. Just a fantastic thing to have, bearing in mind of course, it can be a bit wet here.

Heres a moody shot of the drawbridge to the island.

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Theres not a lot of people here, but a whole heap of countryside. And sheep. Lots of sheep!
What's the food situation like? Are you close to a grocer? Will Amazon deliver or do you have to pick your stuff up in town?

I really like the looks of the house but the barn and pond are awesome!

I'd be over the moon with that property.
 
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What's the food situation like? Are you close to a grocer? Will Amazon deliver or do you have to pick your stuff up in town?

I really like the looks of the house but the barn and pond are awesome!

I'd be over the moon with that property.

Its the UK, so never really far from anywhere releative to you guys.

Nearest town is 4 miles, but its the UK's smallest town, so not that much there, but enough. Next nearest is 9 miles that has a small supermarket.

Everyone delivers. Aside from the scottish highlands, everywhere in the UK is essentialy on next day delivery. Its never been easier to live rural. We dont even go food shopping. Asda, one of the supermarkets will deliver once a week, for an annual delivery charge of £35. Crazy thing is, they are a 50 minute (one way) drive away. Thats basically $1 a week to have all your groceries delivered. No point even starting the car!!!!

Dont have too many good pics of the pond as to much vegetation around it. A subject for future attention.
 

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Heres a moody shot of the drawbridge to the island.
That's a nice feature, is there a spot on the island that's free from bushes for a hideaway/BBQ area or something? You could even put an air bnb on it as a glamping feature!
 
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That's a nice feature, is there a spot on the island that's free from bushes for a hideaway/BBQ area or something? You could even put an air bnb on it as a glamping feature!

Ive cut back a fair bit of the grass so we can at least walk to the far end of the island. Theres much more to do, though im not quite sure what yet. That said, right now the annual return of a pair of canadian geese has occurred for nesting, so island is off limits to us, its their domain now. Last year they had 5 chicks. You dont mess with the geese.

No chance of and airbnb or similar with the new welsh rules on holiday lets.

What it does need is a small boat. Though im thinking a small 1 man hovercraft might be more fun...........................

Poor pic of the geese from last summer

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I can make allowances. I'll let you into a secret, I have a vehicle with Holden badges myself - The Eyesore - but I insist it's really an Isuzu.
Well thats OK then. We can still talk.

If you read my previous thread in my signature, you might see more though. And find out what i used to do.

Then you may need to re-asses :):):)
 

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Great looking place you purchased. That shop is huge and I really like the large overhang on the front.
 

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I didnt actually mention barn or land sizes in my previous posts.

The barn is 40 x 80 ft. So 3200sqft. The canopy at the front a bit over another 1000sqft

Land is five acres approximately. Not calculated the pond/lake size? Is it a pond or a lake?

Not had a canopy before. Just a fantastic thing to have, bearing in mind of course, it can be a bit wet here.

Heres a moody shot of the drawbridge to the island.

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Island....ISLAND!! you didn't mention an island - I'd want a drawbridge to it though :D
 

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Ive cut back a fair bit of the grass so we can at least walk to the far end of the island. Theres much more to do, though im not quite sure what yet. That said, right now the annual return of a pair of canadian geese has occurred for nesting, so island is off limits to us, its their domain now. Last year they had 5 chicks. You dont mess with the geese.

No chance of and airbnb or similar with the new welsh rules on holiday lets.

What it does need is a small boat. Though im thinking a small 1 man hovercraft might be more fun...........................

Poor pic of the geese from last summer

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I feel your pain! I have two pairs and for the last 5 years we've made peace.

They don't attack the lawn mower or boat and I don't turn the sprinklers on them.
 
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I feel your pain! I have two pairs and for the last 5 years we've made peace.

They don't attack the lawn mower or boat and I don't turn the sprinklers on them.

Two pairs!

Cant see that happening here. There been multiple attempts by others to nest here, but any attempt to do so results in all out war! I dont think they are the sharing types.
 
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Why the duals on the tractor?
Short answer, because its Wales.

Long answer, its not mine. That was one of the sales photos, so was long gone by the time we took ownership. But the answer is, because for a good chunk of the year, the ground is wet, very wet, so the duals are to spread the load.

Which is a handy "in" to my tractor exploits.

Having agreed the purchase, but with it taking 9 months or so to complete, i had realised i was going to need a tractor. For the reasons above i was going to need something light on the ground, 4 wheel drive and capable of decent slopes.

Many hours on google, as i knew nothing about tractors, really left me with the conclusion, that the usual compact tractor, the choice of many smallholders wasnt really ideal due to the weight distribution, and also, generally, pretty low powered.

Anything bigger, as well as being heavier was just crazy money. tractors are crazy money, period!

I also wanted something old enough such that it was essentially a mechanical device, so no electronically controlled engine or other functions. I need to be able to fix it myself without relying on dealers and the like.

One thing i kept coming back to was alipine tractors. I liked the look of these, Light, agile, and usually very powerful for their size.

Try finding one though. New, bonkers money.

Anyway chance convo with a friend, revealed the company he worked for, but it had been laid up yeatrs ago, alledgedly ran, but brakes didnt work.

Went and had a look. Clearly needed some work, but with the price agreed, it was a chance worth taking.

So id bought myself some italian excotica! An Antonio Carraro.

So i dragged this thing back to the workshop i was renting at the time, to see what it was like and get fixing
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Basically, if it was supposed to move, it was seized, Brakes, throttles, levers stop cable all the linkages, the seat. Everythuing.

However, the good news was the engine wasnt seized. That was fine. First job was to drop all the oils, filters etc. Once that was done, a decent battery stapped on and turned the key. Aside from lack of glow plugs, which slowed firing, once running it was clear the engine was in good shape. All the oils drained looked pretty good.

With that done it was time to work through everything else. Anyone thats worked on these will know its getting to anything is like a 5 dimesional jigsaw. Nothing is straightforward. Theres an awful lot of stuff in a very small space.

By the time we were done, id spent £1500 on parts. Parts not cheap, but virtually everything was available.

It took weeks of evenings to get it all done, but aside from seized bits, everything else looked fine. It was just an extended period out of use, outside that had caused the issues.

Here it is at its new home


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We have lots of tractors with duals and even triples here but its unusual that they are that small.

I really want a bi directional Antonio Carraro! Is that one bidirectional? I think one with a forestry cage and a small forestry mulcher would be the berries.

My father has an 80's Ferrari articulating 4wd and I have a 2 wheel grillo 107D.
 
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We have lots of tractors with duals and even triples here but its unusual that they are that small.

I really want a bi directional Antonio Carraro! Is that one bidirectional? I think one with a forestry cage and a small forestry mulcher would be the berries.

My father has an 80's Ferrari articulating 4wd and I have a 2 wheel grillo 107D.

Yes, it is bi directional. That took some un-seizing, the seat base.

I knew nothing about tractors before i started, and i still know very little. Id imagine you have forgotton more than i will ever know!
 

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Two pairs!

Cant see that happening here. There been multiple attempts by others to nest here, but any attempt to do so results in all out war! I dont think they are the sharing types.
They're pretty relaxed until the goslings turn from gold to brown then they start flapping and hissing at eachother.

There's three more pairs on the other side of the lake and plenty of confusion when everyone gets mixed up swimming mid-summer.
 
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They're pretty relaxed until the goslings turn from gold to brown then they start flapping and hissing at eachother.

There's three more pairs on the other side of the lake and plenty of confusion when everyone gets mixed up swimming mid-summer.

Blimey. With one pair and five chicks, its a **** fest out there. With your lot must be like a sewage farm.........................
 
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That tractor looks like a cracking bit of kit!
It is indeed. 79hp too, only 1700kg all up. 50/50 weight distribution. Bi-directional.

That said, it did break down at the critical moment last year. Ill post some details on that in due course. Suffice to say, im intimately familiar with an awful lot of it now!
 

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Blimey. With one pair and five chicks, its a **** fest out there. With your lot must be like a sewage farm.........................
No! I put in three Orbit 62120 garden enforcers into my sprinkler system for two years, then I got a controller that works with Alexa and four larger rotator heads for the front.

They figured out when the pumphouse turned on and the air hissed out of the sprinklers it was time to leave.

The lawn still gets fertilized but nothing like before.
 
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No! I put in three Orbit 62120 garden enforcers into my sprinkler system for two years, then I got a controller that works with Alexa and four larger rotator heads for the front.

They figured out when the pumphouse turned on and the air hissed out of the sprinklers it was time to leave.

The lawn still gets fertilized but nothing like before.

Interesting. Didnt know such a thing existed!

Im not that bothered out in the field. Its not great on the yard though.
 
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