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Plomb 2413 combination wrench set with canvas holder.
That's the model number for the pouch itself. The kit was 1200-F. Here's an excerpt from the Catalog No. 19-R series. This appears in REPRINT, SECOND, THIRD, and FOURTH PRINTINGS, which date to late war and postwar, just before 1948. I'm not showing it, but the wrenches are depicted as pebble on the same page.

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What’s a bit odd is that the blue is an early color while the pebble wrenches are the latest production before the short lived dual mark run.
P&C color scheme! :) The description of all the rolls in cats No. 16-B, 17-B, 18-A, 19, 19-A, and all 19-R's, so, 1938 to 1947, says black and silver. This rolls graphic appears in No. 12 (1933) and No. 15-A (1936), but doesn't describe the colors. Note that it oddly never includes 2413. I don't remember seeing this graphic earlier than that and I have never inspected every kit that has a roll in those very early cats to see if any description mentions color scheme.

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That's the model number for the pouch itself. The kit was 1200-F. Here's an excerpt from the Catalog No. 19-R series. This appears in REPRINT, SECOND, THIRD, and FOURTH PRINTINGS, which date to late war and postwar, just before 1948. I'm not showing it, but the wrenches are depicted as pebble on the same page.
Thank you for the info.
 

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Added another to the WF series with the WF-123. It puts me at that 75% complete mark!
Congrats! That is a nice looking one! I'm still missing four deeps. 121 and 122 in 3/8 drive and 131 and 136 in 1/2 drive. 136 has alluded me in 2 previous deals in the past that for one reason or another have fallen through, lol!
 

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Congrats! That is a nice looking one! I'm still missing four deeps. 121 and 122 in 3/8 drive and 131 and 136 in 1/2 drive. 136 has alluded me in 2 previous deals in the past that for one reason or another have fallen through, lol!
Yes the deeps can be tricky. I am now down to 5 left. I believe the WF-131 to be the hardest one to locate based on other collectors.
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Apologies for going back to @z28lsc 's No. 2413 roll-up with the bright blue trim and backing.

Starting here...
the blue is an early color
Did you mean in rollups, Smoke? Or did you just mean in general? I know you've been part of conversations about the "lustrous metallic blue enamel" boxes and rollers (Toolmobiles) from 1938 and 1939, so I'm guessing that's what you were referring to. But if you've seen another one of these, please let me know.

Note that @mustangSR70 has a No. 2410 rollup, black, sliver trim, with blue backing. That's the closest I have seen to this No. 2413. Linked here.

Interestingly enough, we do have one example of a blue Plomb item from the same era (late 40's) as this black and blue rollup, and that is a blue hip roof flip top style box that @RagTopTA posted here. That lends some credence to the originality of those tools in a rollup of that color scheme.

My interest in the roll-ups is a little more than academic. As some of you may recall, I was dithering around with the idea of making reproductions. This was years ago now. My initial motivation was selfishly for myself and my complete No. 3400C set of very early PLOMB LA tappet wrenches in need of a No. 2405 rollup. Thinking about how many guys find or build wrench sets but have no roll-up and, let's face it, little to no hope of finding one - they're that rare, I thought it would be a nice little cottage business model. I had started doing research by looking through the catalogs - you can see my summary of them above, and gathered as many examples from this thread as possible. And then like most good ideas, never followed through. :)

There are no examples of any roll-up here (that I can find searching on "blue", "roll", "roll-up" and "pouch" with the search function, anyway) that are black leatherette with blue trim and backing.

Going through them again revealed a more dizzying variety of main, trim and backing colors than I remembered, and rather than just keep those notes to myself, here is a fairly good list of rollups on this thread.

Don's No. 2402 is black, with silver trim, as the catalogs describe it, but note that his has black backing in the inside. Linked here.

By contrast, @RagTopTA 's No. 2402 is black, silver trim, with khaki-colored backing. Linked here.

@Etchase also has a No. 2402, but his is red, black trim and red backing. Linked here.

Andy (@alinc100) has a No. 2403, black, silver trim, with the khaki backing. Linked here.

@Fred Knox has a No. 2402, a No. 2403, and a No. 2406, all black, silver trim, with khaki backing. Linked here.

Ed (@Oregon rock crusher) has a No. 2406, but his is red, black trim, with khaki backing. Linked here.

@WWIIjeep has a No. 2413, black, silver trim, with khaki backing. Linked here.

// I am going to tag this post #Rollups Roundup for easy finding later. //
 
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Adding a 1932 1-1/2" x 3/4" Socket.
Down to 1 LA 5 Band socket to complete the standard set!
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when the "group experts" rush in to school the newbies on the Plomb Enthusiast site by telling them which MONTH their 30's Plomb Tool was made I can't help but think of the original Point Break bank robber / surfing theory...."4 months" ''we won't see them again until next January" "they're traveling on the money...going where the waves are...." Pendleton and Williams are making tools...to finance their Endless Summer!
I assume most on here can see the unexpected issue here vis-a-vis letter month or quarter code theory and the 1934 PLOMB to PLVMB change.
 

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I assume most on here can see the unexpected issue here vis-a-vis letter month or quarter code theory and the 1934 PLOMB to PLVMB change.
It certainly would make a marketing team cringe with the lack of consistent branding. I believe I have some round O items pushing into the 40s.
 

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It certainly would make a marketing team cringe with the lack of consistent branding. I believe I have some round O items pushing into the 40s.
Hi Roy. Yeah, I'm sure we could amass dozens of "exceptions" to the widely recognized rules and come up with various plausible explanations from multiple production facilities, contractors /tool types, employee mistakes, undiscovered code meanings, overstock, oversight, not giving a ****, whatever As you know, In this particular case, it's widely accepted that, for tools, Plomb changed their "O" to a "V" shape at some point in 1934..and it's also theorized that the date code letters run in some kind of chronological sense ie. "A" being earlier than "B" being earlier than 'C". whether each letter signifies a month or a quarter of the year. In my example the 34A, an earlier alleged production cycle has the later"V" and the 34C, a later cycle has the earlier"O". Could just be a stamping error, the fact that the stamp is on different parts of the extension is another issue. It's no big deal, I just saw some posts going over the letter puzzle again and thought aside from the month /quarter/ production run or facility ideas there's this non sequential anomaly.
 

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I believe I have some round O items pushing into the 40s.
Are they drive tools? I definitely do, including very late 40s, but not wrenches or any core tools. They're on feeler gauges and things like that where it's not even certain Plomb was the OEM and it seems like the instructions to suppliers just wasn't that particular.

FWIW, I was with X on this photo's anachronistic dilemma as soon as I saw it. I am much more inclined to trust the consistency of the PLOMB to PLVMB sequence casting doubt on the ABCD = sequential quarters theory than the ABCD = sequential quarters theory casting doubt on the consistency of the PLOMB to PLVMB sequence.

But yeah, not conclusive enough to bet on it.
 

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Are they drive tools? I definitely do, including very late 40s, but not wrenches or any core tools. They're on feeler gauges and things like that where it's not even certain Plomb was the OEM and it seems like the instructions to suppliers just wasn't that particular.

FWIW, I was with X on this photo's anachronistic dilemma as soon as I saw it. I am much more inclined to trust the consistency of the PLOMB to PLVMB sequence casting doubt on the ABCD = sequential quarters theory than the ABCD = sequential quarters theory casting doubt on the consistency of the PLOMB to PLVMB sequence.

But yeah, not conclusive enough to bet on it.
Valid point. All my examples of wrenches (adjustables) and other tools could be contract productions. Even the Bog sourced drive tools from the war eras have the triangle O.
 

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Are they drive tools? I definitely do, including very late 40s, but not wrenches or any core tools. They're on feeler gauges and things like that where it's not even certain Plomb was the OEM and it seems like the instructions to suppliers just wasn't that particular.

FWIW, I was with X on this photo's anachronistic dilemma as soon as I saw it. I am much more inclined to trust the consistency of the PLOMB to PLVMB sequence casting doubt on the ABCD = sequential quarters theory than the ABCD = sequential quarters theory casting doubt on the consistency of the PLOMB to PLVMB sequence.

But yeah, not conclusive enough to bet on it.
Also, the possibility that the "date code" stampings came after the already-marked item was pulled from stock to distribute. This would explain late dated items with round-O PLOMB.
 

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This #3 Phillips driver I’ve been wanting to add to my Plomb based GMTK arrived yesterday. I had to make the decision of whether to go with wood or plastic handles and I kind of prefer the look of the wood. IMG_6865.jpegIMG_6866.jpegIMG_6867.jpeg
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Wood drivers added to the GMTK. IMG_6903.jpeg
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PLOMB Based GMTK 2/2026



41-B-292 Rolling Head Pry Bar – Plomb 2130

41-B-1157 Hacksaw Blades - Atkins, Milford and Heller

41-B-1840 Tool Box - Plomb

38-B-3345 Sash Brush - Unmarked

38-C-300 File Cleaner - Nicholson with pick

41-C-1052 Cape Chisel 7” x ¼” - Plomb 72 3/8

41-C-1106 1/2" Cold Chisel 6” x ½” - Plomb 86A 7/16

41-C-1124 3/4" Cold Chisel 8” x ¾” - Plomb 86A 5/8

41-C-1168 3/8" Diamond Chisel 6” x 3/8”- Plomb #76 5/8

41-D-1513 Brass Drift ¾” x 10" - need

41-D-1514 Brass Drift 1” x 7” - Unmarked

41-F-862 10" ******* File - Plomb FB10

41-F-886 10" Smooth File - Nicholson

41-F-950 6" Half Round Smooth File - Nicholson

41-F-1304 8" Round ******* File - Nicholson

41-F-1553 8" Three Square ******* File - Nicholson

41-F-3390 Hacksaw Frame - Forsberg

41-F-3394 Hacksaw Frame - Plomb 360

41-G-355 Spark Plug Gauge - Kastar

41-G-350 Spark Plug Gauge - Auto Lite SP-1272

41-G-400 Thickness Gauge 9 Leaves - L. S. Starrett No. 172A in box

41-H-520 Ball Peen Hammer 4 oz. - Paschall 1304

41-H-523 Ball Peen Hammer 16 oz. - Paschall 1316

41-H-527 Ball Peen Hammer 32 oz. - Paschall 1332

41-H-1116 File Handle 1¼" dia. - Unmarked (2)

41-H-1117 File Handle 1" dia. - Unmarked (3)

41-K-370 Electricians Knife - Pal Blade Co US ARMY marked

41-K-546 Putty Knife 1¼" - Red Devil PI-1¼F (Irvington)

13-O-1530 Spring Bottom Oiler 4" dia.- Gem

41-P-1618 Round Nose Pliers 6” - Kraeuter 1611-6

41-P-1650 Slip Joint Pliers 6" - Plomb 256

41-P-1652 Slip Joint Pliers 8" - Cee Tee

41-P-1714 Diagonal Pliers 6" - Plomb 206 Name-Nurl

41-P-1839 Lineman's 8" Pliers - Side Cutting - Crescent 50 8

41-P-1904 Long Nose Pliers 6" - Crescent 1033 6

41-P-1977 Flat Nose Pliers 8" - Side Cutting- Plomb 268 (postwar ?)

41-P-1991 Long Nose Pliers - Side Cutting - Plomb 226

41-P-2100 Water Pump Pliers - Plomb 240 Name-Nurl

41-P-3185 Center Punch 4½" - Plomb 41 5/16

41-P-3640 Drive Pin Punch 1/8" - Plomb 50 5/16

41-P-3642 Drive Pin Punch 1/4" - Millers Falls

41-P-3642-400 Drive Pin Punch 1/4" - Unmarked 4"

41-P-3606 Drive Pin Punch 1/4" - Mayhew 4"

41-P-3608 Drive Pin Punch 3/8" - Unmarked

41-R-2990 Steel Rule 6" - Starrett 603

41-S-665 Carbon Scraper - Plomb 2337

41-S-1063 Close Quarter Screwdriver - Plomb 9652

41-S-1076 Heavy Duty Screwdriver 6" Blade - Plomb 9706

41-S-1078 Heavy Duty Screwdriver 10" Blade - Plomb 9710

41-S-1225 Electricians Screwdriver 2½" Blade – Plomb 9702

41-S-1228 Electricians Screwdriver 5½" Blade - Bridgeport Matchless No.98

41-S-1385 Extra Heavy Duty Screwdriver 5" Blade - Irwin handle stamped

41-S-1400 Double Offset Screwdriver – Plomb 36 3/8

41-S-1638 Phillips Screwdriver #2 - Plomb 9784 (or 9684)

41-S-1640 Phillips Screwdriver #3 - Plomb 9786 (or 9686)

41-S-2806 Tin Snips 7" - Pexto

41-W-486 Adjustable Wrench 8" - Plomb 708 Utica made

41-W-488 Adjustable Wrench 12" - Plomb 712 Utica made

41-W-1660 Pipe Wrench 6" - Plomb 806 or Ridgid 6” 1941

41-W-1662 Pipe Wrench 10" - Ridgid 10” 1941

41-W-1663 Pipe Wrench 14" - Ridgid 14” 1943

41-W-2449 Hex Wrench 3/16" – Allen & 3/32” – Allen

41-W-2450 Hex Wrench 1/4" - Allen & 1/8” - Allen

41-W-2451 Hex Wrench 5/16" - Allen & 5/32” - Allen

41-W-2452 Hex Wrench 3/8" - Allen

41-W-620 Short DBE Wrench 3/8" x 7/16" – Plomb 8160

41-W-622 Short DBE Wrench 1/2" x 9/16" - Plomb 8161

41-W-625 Short DBE Wrench 5/8" x 3/4" - Circle DC

41-W-603 Long DBE Wrench 11/16" x 3/4" - Plomb 1135

41-W-605 Long DBE Wrench 13/16" x 7/8" – Plomb 1140

41-W-608 Long DBE Wrench 15/16" x 1" - Plomb 1145

41-W-900 Ignition Wrench Set - Duro Chrome (1945)

41-P-1820 Pliers, Ignition, Distributer, Slip Joint, 5” - Plomb 235

41-S-1550 Screwdriver, 2" blade with pocket clip - Irwin

41-W-1468-350 Wrench, Elec. 13/64” (15) x 15/64” (60) - Duro-Chrome G61 or Plomb 3210

41-W-1468-355 Wrench, Elec. 15/64” (15) x 13/64” (60) - Duro-Chrome G62 or Plomb 3211

41-W-1468-360 Wrench, Elec. 7/32” (15) x 1/4” (60) - Duro-Chrome G63 or Plomb 3215

41-W-1468-365 Wrench, Elec. 1/4” (15) x 7/32” (60) - Duro-Chrome G64 or Plomb 3216

41-W-1468-370 Wrench, Elec. 9/32” (15) x 5/16” (60) - Duro-Chrome G65 or Plomb 3220

41-W-1468-375 Wrench, Elec. 5/16” (15) x 9/32” (60) - Duro-Chrome G66 or

Plomb 3221

41-W-1468-380 Wrench, Elec. 11/32” (15) x 3/8” (60) - Duro-Chrome G67 or Plomb 3225

41-W-1468-385 Wrench, Elec. 3/8” (15) x 11/32” (60) - Duro-Chrome G68 or Plomb 3226

41-W-1468-390 Wrench, Elec. 7/16” (15) x 1/2” (60) - Duro-Chrome G69

41-R-2738-75 Roll, Electrical Wrench Set, Canvas, 11 pockets - Duro Metal Products

41-W-991 DOE Wrench 3/8" x 7/16" - Plomb 3021

41-W-1003 DOE Wrench 1/2" x 19/32" - Plomb 3027

41-W-1005-5 DOE Wrench 9/16" x 11/16" - Arcturus FSN marked

41-W-1008-10 DOE Wrench 5/8" x 25/32" - Arcturus FSN marked

41-W-1012-5 DOE Wrench 3/4" x 7/8" - Plomb 3039

41-W-1021 DOE Wrench 15/16" x 1" - Plomb 3045

41-W-2615 Socket Set ¼" Drive - Plomb with 4749 ratchet

41-W-2970 Socket ¼” Drive 3/16” 6 point – Plomb 4706

41-W-2971 Socket ¼” Drive 7/32” 6 point – Plomb 4707

41-W-2972 Socket ¼” Drive 1/4” 6 point – Plomb 4708

41-W-2972-100 Socket ¼” Drive 9/32” 6 point – Plomb 4709

41-W-2972-120 Socket ¼” Drive 5/16” 6 point – Plomb 4710

41-W-2972-140 Socket ¼” Drive 11/32” 6 point – Plomb 4711

41-W-2976 Socket ¼” Drive 3/8” 6 point – Plomb 4712

41-W-2977 Socket ¼” Drive 7/16” 6 point – Plomb 4714

41-W-2972-600 Socket ¼” Drive 1/4" 8 point – Plomb 4708S

41-W-2972-620 Socket ¼” Drive 5/16” 8 point – Plomb 4710S

41-W-2972-640 Socket ¼” Drive 3/8” 8 point – Walden 3161

41-H-1509 Handle ¼” Drive Spinner Insulated – Plomb 4769

41-H-1498-80 Flex Handle ¼” Drive 5” – Plomb 4766 with 4766PH

41-B-302 Extension ¼” Drive 3” - Plomb 4760

41-B-304 Extension ¼” Drive 6” – Plomb 4761

41-H-1509-50 Sliding Tee Handle ¼” Drive – Plomb 4785

41-B-1643 Box Hinged Cover ¼” Drive – Plomb 4795

41-W-3005 Socket 7/16" ½" Drive - Plomb 5414

41-W-3007 Socket 1/2" ½" Drive - Plomb 5416

41-W-3009 Socket 9/16" ½" Drive - Plomb 5418

41-W-3011 Socket 19/32" ½" Drive - Plomb 5419

41-W-3013 Socket 5/8" ½" Drive - Plomb 5420

41-W-3015 Socket 11/16" ½" Drive - Plomb 5423

41-W-3017 Socket 3/4" ½" Drive - Plomb 5424

41-W-3019 Socket 25/32" ½" Drive - Plomb 5425

41-W-3021 Socket 13/16" ½" Drive - Plomb 5426

41-W-3023 Socket 7/8" ½" Drive - Plomb 5428

41-W-3025 Socket 15/16" ½" Drive - Plomb 5430

41-W-3027 Socket 1" ½" Drive - Plomb 5432

41-W-3029 Socket 1-1/16" ½" Drive - Plomb 5434

41-W-3031 Socket 1-1/8" ½" Drive - Plomb 5436

41-B-155 Cross Bar 10" - unmarked 1/2” x 10”

41-B-307 Extension ½" Drive 5" - Plomb 5461

41-B-309 Extension ½" Drive 10" - Plomb 5463

41-B-645 Drag Link Bit Set - consisting of;

41-B-647 Drag Link Bit 47/64" - Plomb 5444 or Walden 1129

41-B-648 Drag Link Bit 15/16" - Plomb 5446 or Duro Chrome 1305

41-B-649 Drag Link Bit 1-1/16” - Walden 1131

41-H-1500 Handle, Socket Wrench, Flexible Head, 10½" ½" Drive - Plomb 5466

41-H-1501 Offset Handle ½" Drive - Mossberg

41-H-1502 Handle, Socket Wrench, Flexible Head, 18”, ½" Drive - Plomb 5468

41-H-1505 Ratchet ½" Drive - Plomb 5449

41-H-1508 Speeder Handle ½" Drive - Plomb 5480

41-J-380 Universal Joint ½" Drive – Plomb 5470



Extra

Plomb brake adjusting wrench



Need wartime finish for the Plomb based GMTK;

Plomb 1/2” drive Ell handle (Unicorn)

Plomb 256 6” slip joint pliers Name-Nurl

Plomb 226 Name-Nurl longnoses side cutting

Plomb 278 8” Name-Nurl pliers

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I had to make the decision of whether to go with wood or plastic handles and I kind of prefer the look of the wood.

I've become a fan of wood handle drivers. I'm working on a user set from oledvintage/antique that are in good shape on the grips and can be fixed on the tip if worn. (Phillips have to have good tips...)
 

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ebay auction for 1948 Plomb newsletter or whatever and I noticed the G.M.C. (diesel- electric locomotive) corresponding numbers for the Plomb tools are 7 digit #'s beginning with 8. Pretty close to that 1" drive socket that shows up every now and then with the funky hex cross hole. I'm sure someone on here has one. I don't think that particular socket is represented on this list but the numbering scheme has to be pretty close....I think.
 

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ebay auction for 1948 Plomb newsletter or whatever and I noticed the G.M.C. (diesel- electric locomotive) corresponding numbers for the Plomb tools are 7 digit #'s beginning with 8. Pretty close to that 1" drive socket that shows up every now and then with the funky hex cross hole. I'm sure someone on here has one. I don't think that particular socket is represented on this list but the numbering scheme has to be pretty close....I think.
Nice catch! I think I have that one newsletter coming my way but not here yet. I am guessing this is the socket you are referencing
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A few additions for Monday.20260223_163040.jpg
A 1/4" set mostly from 1941. Came with the micro ratchet but I was more excited for the 4747 Carter Pump Discharge Nozzle socket.
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My 2nd Plomb catalog 10-B with reference to 1927-1930 tools.
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@Private Lugnutz I am unsure if this one has been uploaded to the Web but let me know if you know the process and I can high resolution images uploaded so all collectors can have reference material.
 

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