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Thomas, couldn’t you have just lessened the crease on the threshold? Putting that piece of wood under it kind of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

Roger I used 12 gauge stainless steel which is very stiff material and it was difficult to bend it using a sheet metal brake which can only bend in 1 plane. If I understand your question, it would have meant a compound bend which was realistically not possible. As you know most things are a compromise, so shimming that corner was my compromise. The whole idea was to protect the end board of the ramp with tough material and provide a means for in the future, if Chris and or I should need a wheelchair to transition more easily onto the ramp. While that part of the threshold isn't completely flush with the concrete, it's only raised less than 1/2" above the concrete surface which a wheelchair can easily bridge over. It is a bit "clunky" I agree and certainly not my first choice, but I felt it was the best way overall to solve the problem. Fortunately it's located at the back of the house in a spot that doesn't see much traffic. Going forward I can see that wedge area as the equivalent to the crooked switch plate in the lift room!!!! :eek:

Also the wedge spacer was made out of composite material, not wood and should last almost indefinitely. Anyway good observation and question. Thank you for asking about it. Now you have something to come and examine at the open house! :lol:

Thomas
 
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Roger I used 12 gauge stainless steel which is very stiff material and it was difficult to bend it using a sheet metal brake which can only bend in 1 plane. If I understand your question, it would have meant a compound bend which was realistically not possible. As you know most things are a compromise, so shimming that corner was my compromise. The whole idea was to protect the end board of the ramp with tough material and provide a means for in the future, if Chris and or I should need a wheelchair to transition more easily onto the ramp. While that part of the threshold isn't completely flush with the concrete, it's only raised less than 1/2" above the concrete surface which a wheelchair can easily bridge over. It is a bit "clunky" I agree and certainly not my first choice, but I felt it was the best way overall to solve the problem. Fortunately it's located at the back of the house in a spot that doesn't see much traffic. Going forward I can see that wedge area as the equivalent to the crooked switch plate in the lift room!!!! :eek:

Also the wedge spacer was made out of composite material, not wood and should last almost indefinitely. Anyway good observation and question. Thank you for asking about it. Now you have something to come and examine at the open house! :lol:

Thomas
I was going to reference the switch plate, but I didn't want to seem too critical of your sloppy work.:lol_hitti I kid I kid.


I probably would have beat the crease with a hammer, I guess your way does look better.:beer:
 

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Bloomington Gold; hadn't really thought about it for this year. Not sure what's going on in mid June yet. There's usually a Pure Stock Drag Race right around that time. I'll let you know if I do make it. Wonder if your something to show me has anything to do with a C8?

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Nope it has to do with a C3. :D

By the open house I might have a C8, though. 2022 sales start in July (at least that is the current plan) and the new engine should be part of the 2022 line up. Of course Chevrolet is not committing to the new engine at all yet. One of the best kept secrets in years. ;);) The way auto manufacturing is going now days one can't count on anything. Chip shortages are decimating that industry.
 
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1964 Impala Super Sport

Nope it has to do with a C3. :D.......

...........Chip shortages are decimating that industry.

Alrighty then, I'm curious Terry.

I can't even imagine the problems the chip shortage is making. My understanding it's an epic problem!

Now for something a little different. I'm down-sizing my fleet again. This time it's the '64 Impala that I've been drag racing off and on for the last 17 years. For an up close and personal look:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-chevrolet-impala-31/

...for more detailed information. Maltese_Falcon has already exposed me! :willy_nil

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Alrighty then, I'm curious Terry.

I can't even imagine the problems the chip shortage is making. My understanding it's an epic problem!

Now for something a little different. I'm down-sizing my fleet again. This time it's the '64 Impala that I've been drag racing off and on for the last 17 years. For an up close and personal look:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-chevrolet-impala-31/

...for more detailed information. Maltese_Falcon has already exposed me! :willy_nil

Thomas

Thomas,
Sad to see the Impala go but I get it, change happens. Does this mean no more drag racing for you or will you be racing one of your other cars? The next owner will be getting one nice old muscle car.

Bob
 
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Thomas,
Sad to see the Impala go but I get it, change happens. Does this mean no more drag racing for you or will you be racing one of your other cars? The next owner will be getting one nice old muscle car.

Bob

No worries Bob, I'll still be racing the Chevy II and I still have my last '64 Impala. It's a silver/silver, Super Sport, 4 speed car too, however it has factory A/C, PS,PB, posi, AM/FM. It's near and dear to my heart. The one I'm selling just wasn't being used all that much. I can only drag race one car at a time and the Chevy II is the one I use the most.

Take a last look at the auction car in action last fall at Stanton, MI here:


Someone, (not me!!) did this video. At least the last time I drove the car it went out a winner! I'd post a picture of the one I'm keeping but Photobucket is having a snit and I can't post it right now. I'll do so later.

I do agree with you, the sale car is an iconic American muscle car and a good one at that.

Thomas
 

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Cool video Thomas. I totally forgot you had 2 Impalas and how could I forget the Chevy II. Glad to hear you will still have racing choices. Are you planning any drag race events this year? I have not checked to see if Stanton has a 2021 schedule. Lapeer Dragway is closest to me and open, especially now that Milan Dragway has closed and cancelled all 2021 events. Drag strips are disappearing around here.

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Cool video Thomas. I totally forgot you had 2 Impalas and how could I forget the Chevy II. Glad to hear you will still have racing choices. Are you planning any drag race events this year? I have not checked to see if Stanton has a 2021 schedule. Lapeer Dragway is closest to me and open, especially now that Milan Dragway has closed and cancelled all 2021 events. Drag strips are disappearing around here.

Bob

There are a few events I'm going to try to fit in. Stanton is on again for this year and I'll be there with the Chevy II, Sept 17 and 18, 2021. That's an event I haven't missed in 22 years. I even went when it was forecast 100% for rain several years ago. Dan Jensen runs that event and there's nothing like it anywhere in the US. Last year because of the virus, entries were down but we still had about 110 cars. This year we should get a good turn out. Martin, MI has a couple of events I'm looking at too. Drag strips in general took a beating last year and several have closed unfortunately. Very sorry to hear about Milan.

Bonneville is all set again for August and Lou and I will be there too and so will the #19 car. He should be popping up out here in a few weeks. He can only go so long without Custard Cup after all. Isn't that right Lou?! :D

Thomas
 
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Rumors, ugly rumors.............

You know how rumors go, veiled whispers behind your back, quick glances and then eyes turned quickly away. Cars driving slowly by and at all hours of the day and night...


"Did you see what that crazy retired airline pilot was doing now!"


"I saw him vacuuming around some trees out in the yard, craziest thing I ever did see!"

"No question, he's finally loosing it!"


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Well I thought I better get out in front of this before it got out of hand. You good folks have been following my exploits here for years and years. I feel a sense of responsibility to you, honor bound to provide an explanation. Yes it's true, I was vacuuming around some of the trees out by the old shop but here's why...

As you can vividly remember...

...there was a bunch of trash all over the property. I have it pretty well cleaned up....except for some itty bitty small pieces of glass from a shattered windshield that happened decades ago. I've been cleaning that glass up, a little at time year after year.......until now! I came up with the inspired idea of using my shop vac to get these last little bits of glass cleaned up once and for all, and it worked!!

So some of the last bits of trash has left the property. About the only area left to be cleaned up is by the osage orange hedge trees. I'll get to them eventually but for now, for the first time in decades, the base of the trees around the driveway and old shop is finally cleared of all those teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy little pieces of glass. So let the rumors fly, you guys know the straight story. ;)

Thomas
 

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Re: Rumors, ugly rumors.............

You know how rumors go, veiled whispers behind your back, quick glances and then eyes turned quickly away. Cars driving slowly by and at all hours of the day and night...


"Did you see what that crazy retired airline pilot was doing now!"


"I saw him vacuuming around some trees out in the yard, craziest thing I ever did see!"

"No question, he's finally loosing it!"


************************************

Well I thought I better out in front of this before it got out of hand. You good folks have been following my exploits here for years and years. I feel a sense of responsibility to you, honor bound to provide an explanation. Yes it's true, I was vacuuming around some of the trees out by the old shop but here's why...

As you can vividly remember...

...there was a bunch of trash all over the property. I have it pretty well cleaned up....except for some itty bitty small pieces of glass from a shattered windshield that happened decades ago. I've been cleaning that glass up, a little at time year after year.......until now! I came up with the inspired idea of using my shop vac to get these last little bits of glass cleaned up once and for all, and it worked!!

So some of the last bits of trash has left the property. About the only area left to be cleaned up is by the osage orange hedge trees. I'll get to them eventually but for now, for the first time in decades, the base of the trees around the driveway and old shop is finally cleared of all those teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy little pieces of glass. So let the rumors fly, you guys know the straight story. ;)

Thomas

You are not crazy (at least in this respect)! I did the same thing the last time my weed-eater took out the glass storm door. I'm pretty sure I am not crazy...
 

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Re: Rumors, ugly rumors.............

You know how rumors go, veiled whispers behind your back, quick glances and then eyes turned quickly away. Cars driving slowly by and at all hours of the day and night...


"Did you see what that crazy retired airline pilot was doing now!"


"I saw him vacuuming around some trees out in the yard, craziest thing I ever did see!"

"No question, he's finally loosing it!"


************************************

Well I thought I better out in front of this before it got out of hand. You good folks have been following my exploits here for years and years. I feel a sense of responsibility to you, honor bound to provide an explanation. Yes it's true, I was vacuuming around some of the trees out by the old shop but here's why...

As you can vividly remember...

...there was a bunch of trash all over the property. I have it pretty well cleaned up....except for some itty bitty small pieces of glass from a shattered windshield that happened decades ago. I've been cleaning that glass up, a little at time year after year.......until now! I came up with the inspired idea of using my shop vac to get these last little bits of glass cleaned up once and for all, and it worked!!

So some of the last bits of trash has left the property. About the only area left to be cleaned up is by the osage orange hedge trees. I'll get to them eventually but for now, for the first time in decades, the base of the trees around the driveway and old shop is finally cleared of all those teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy little pieces of glass. So let the rumors fly, you guys know the straight story. ;)

Thomas
I'd bet there's a few sneaky pieces of glass that were hiding from you and will pop up when you least expect it!

I'm another one who was surprised you needed to put a wedge under that stainless threshold ramp. Maybe I'm not understanding what you meant by a 'compound bend', but surely the sloping part of the ramp could have had a taper on it without needing anything other than straight bends?

Confused Pete :headscrat
 
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Deck Ramp Threshold, 2.0

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I'm another one who was surprised you needed to put a wedge under that stainless threshold ramp. Maybe I'm not understanding what you meant by a 'compound bend', but surely the sloping part of the ramp could have had a taper on it without needing anything other than straight bends?

Confused Pete :headscrat

Pete I've uploaded a couple of pictures and diagrams to Photobucket (PB) that might help explain what the issue was. PB has changed how I can post pictures so it just give a link and you have to click on the link to get the image to appear. Very unhandy but I'll try to make it work.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u288/BB767/WedgeBend_2.jpg

In the above image if you click on the link, you'll see the area that has already been bent in one direction and where it needs to be bent 90º from that bend. To follow the contour of the sidewalk...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u288/BB767/Wedgebend3.jpg

...seen in the above image. You'd need to bend either the small area I indicated or the whole area above it to follow the sidewalk. Using a brake to bend it can't be done, bending 90º across an already existing bend. 12 gauge material can only really be bent using a sheet metal brake, so to bend that second area from left to right to follow the sidewalk realistically can't be done, at least not that I'm aware of. :dunno: For the sake of discussion, I'm certainly open to how else this might be done.

Seeking Knowledge Thomas
 

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Not crazy, just thinking outside the box!

My neighbors probably thought I lost it 15 years ago when I buried a 1000' of underground dog fence - with my then 5 year old chainsaw.:wtf::eyecrazy:

I mean, it is just a mini trencher right?:lol:

My son and I got it done in an hour and it's still the only chainsaw I've owned. Still use it every other month.
 

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Thanks for clearing up why you were using a shop vac in the trees and shrubs Thomas. You don't want people thinking your crazy. It could be worse, you could be seen using a leaf blower to "fluff up" you grass. :willy_nil
 
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Not crazy, just thinking outside the box!

My neighbors probably thought I lost it 15 years ago when I buried a 1000' of underground dog fence - with my then 5 year old chainsaw.:wtf::eyecrazy:

I mean, it is just a mini trencher right?:lol:

My son and I got it done in an hour and it's still the only chainsaw I've owned. Still use it every other month.

Ummm, Laine, using a chainsaw for trenching might not be the safest, highest and best use of a chainsaw. Just saying...............

And you guys thought me in the bottom of the lift pit without any bracing when I dug that up wasn't safe. Trenching with a chainsaw gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "what was he thinking......?!" :wtf: :D

Skeptical Thomas
 

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Ummm, Laine, using a chainsaw for trenching might not be the safest, highest and best use of a chainsaw. Just saying...............

And you guys thought me in the bottom of the lift pit without any bracing when I dug that up wasn't safe. Trenching with a chainsaw gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "what was he thinking......?!" :wtf: :D

Skeptical Thomas
Everyone knows you’re supposed to use a pressure washer to dig trenches.:thumbup:
 

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My inlaws made a career out of raking the lawn, glad they didn't have a shop vac!
I thought dog wire trenching was done with an edger!!
 
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Re: Deck Ramp Threshold, 2.0

Pete I've uploaded a couple of pictures and diagrams to Photobucket (PB) that might help explain what the issue was. PB has changed how I can post pictures so it just give a link and you have to click on the link to get the image to appear. Very unhandy but I'll try to make it work.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u288/BB767/WedgeBend_2.jpg

In the above image if you click on the link, you'll see the area that has already been bent in one direction and where it needs to be bent 90º from that bend. To follow the contour of the sidewalk...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u288/BB767/Wedgebend3.jpg

...seen in the above image. You'd need to bend either the small area I indicated or the whole area above it to follow the sidewalk. Using a brake to bend it can't be done, bending 90º across an already existing bend. 12 gauge material can only really be bent using a sheet metal brake, so to bend that second area from left to right to follow the sidewalk realistically can't be done, at least not that I'm aware of. :dunno: For the sake of discussion, I'm certainly open to how else this might be done.

Seeking Knowledge Thomas
Thanks for the links Thomas, but I'm still not getting it. What if the area between the two bends was tapered so it was wider on the low side of the sidewalk, the nearer end in your first link?
Oh, maybe I'm getting it - the sidewalk isn't flat so the bottom edge would need to be curved?

Confused Pete
 
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......... What if the area between the two bends was tapered so it was wider on the low side of the sidewalk, the nearer end in your first link?
Oh, maybe I'm getting it - the sidewalk isn't flat so the bottom edge would need to be curved?

Confused Pete

No worries Pete, this is something that in person would be much easier to explain and see. Let's try this...

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/u288/BB767/TaperExplain1.jpg

Lines A and B are horizontal bends, that are from the left to the right, across the threshold as seen. Starting on the bottom of the threshold, in the middle at point C, the bottom of the threshold needs to be bent down to meet point D on the sidewalk. The sidewalk is not curved, from C to D is a straight edge, but bending the threshold at point C can't really be done since line B is a bend in one plane from left to right and the new bend at C would cut across the existing bend on line B. The magenta colored area of the threshold on the bottom right somehow needs to be brought down to the sidewalk surface.

That threshold stainless steel is so tough, it can only be bent with a sheet-metal brake and a brake can't be used here. The bend in the threshold would start on a line at point C (dashed yellow line) and continue down to point D. So my solution was, rather than bring the threshold down to the sidewalk, I put a wedge under the threshold in there to effectively bring the sidewalk up meet the bottom of the threshold.

The compound bend I'm talking about (maybe wrong terminology) are lines A and B are running in one plane and the new bend starting at point C would be cutting across existing bends at lines A and B almost 90º in a new plane.

Pete don't let this go if you're still not seeing it. I'm kinda hoping someone will come up with a more elegant solution on how the threshold could be manipulated to make this work. I learn new stuff all the time from you guys. Cheers.

Hopeful Thomas
 

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Re: Rumors, ugly rumors.............

You know how rumors go, veiled whispers behind your back, quick glances and then eyes turned quickly away. Cars driving slowly by and at all hours of the day and night...


"Did you see what that crazy retired airline pilot was doing now!"


"I saw him vacuuming around some trees out in the yard, craziest thing I ever did see!"

"No question, he's finally loosing it!"


************************************

Well I thought I better get out in front of this before it got out of hand. You good folks have been following my exploits here for years and years. I feel a sense of responsibility to you, honor bound to provide an explanation. Yes it's true, I was vacuuming around some of the trees out by the old shop but here's why...

As you can vividly remember...

...there was a bunch of trash all over the property. I have it pretty well cleaned up....except for some itty bitty small pieces of glass from a shattered windshield that happened decades ago. I've been cleaning that glass up, a little at time year after year.......until now! I came up with the inspired idea of using my shop vac to get these last little bits of glass cleaned up once and for all, and it worked!!

So some of the last bits of trash has left the property. About the only area left to be cleaned up is by the osage orange hedge trees. I'll get to them eventually but for now, for the first time in decades, the base of the trees around the driveway and old shop is finally cleared of all those teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy little pieces of glass. So let the rumors fly, you guys know the straight story. ;)

Thomas
Thomas, have you ever used a metal detector on your property?
 

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There are a few events I'm going to try to fit in. Stanton is on again for this year and I'll be there with the Chevy II, Sept 17 and 18, 2021. That's an event I haven't missed in 22 years. I even went when it was forecast 100% for rain several years ago. Dan Jensen runs that event and there's nothing like it anywhere in the US. Last year because of the virus, entries were down but we still had about 110 cars. This year we should get a good turn out. Martin, MI has a couple of events I'm looking at too. Drag strips in general took a beating last year and several have closed unfortunately. Very sorry to hear about Milan.

Bonneville is all set again for August and Lou and I will be there too and so will the #19 car. He should be popping up out here in a few weeks. He can only go so long without Custard Cup after all. Isn't that right Lou?! :D

Thomas

Glad to hear Lou and yourself will be back at Speed Week this year. I will be there as well and as always look forward to saying hello. I’d love to see you run at Stanton but not sure I’ll be in Michigan by then. I’m going back to Bonneville this year for World of Speed. I can no longer just sit on the sidelines and am preparing a car to compete in the 130 MPH Club event. My goal is to not break and make some good runs on the historic salt for this first year. Then we’ll see what happens after that.

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Thomas, have you ever used a metal detector on your property?

Well as a matter of fact I have TR6SR650, but only to find some surveying pins. There are so many metal bits scattered around the property, a metal detector would be going off continuously I'm afraid. When I was vacuuming up the glass around the trees this week, I uncovered a brake wheel cylinder and a large "E" shaped shim of some sort, semi-buried in the dirt. I never cease to be amazed at the wide range of cast off parts I find. Clearly they didn't believe in recycling metal.

The bright side is, that it's a never ending source of entertainment. When I come across a little something poking up from the ground, I never know what it will eventually lead to. Once I uncover the object, it's then fun to try and guess what it is and what it was used on! The amount of objects is certainly decreasing though. I am making headway cleaning it all up.....finally!

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Sevenhills1952, many, many thanks for posting that! Brilliant! It gave Chris and I a good laugh and a great idea going forward. :thumbup:

Glad to hear Lou and yourself will be back at Speed Week this year. I will be there as well and as always look forward to saying hello. I’d love to see you run at Stanton but not sure I’ll be in Michigan by then. I’m going back to Bonneville this year for World of Speed. I can no longer just sit on the sidelines and am preparing a car to compete in the 130 MPH Club event. My goal is to not break and make some good runs on the historic salt for this first year. Then we’ll see what happens after that.

Bob

For sure we'll meet up at Bonneville again Bob. Wow, so you're going racing on the salt! Well good for you. That sounds like a good plan, just make some good runs and have fun. That's whole point. Salt fever, it is contagious. See you in August.

Thomas
 

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Ummm, Laine, using a chainsaw for trenching might not be the safest, highest and best use of a chainsaw. Just saying...............

And you guys thought me in the bottom of the lift pit without any bracing when I dug that up wasn't safe. Trenching with a chainsaw gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "what was he thinking......?!" :wtf: :D

Skeptical Thomas

:lol_hitti
I was thinking "how do I get this done quickly, it's only 4"deep?"
Success!! ;):thumbup:
I worked for cable TV right out of high school and the backlog all Summer was burying cable - because all they used was a square end shovel.
Nope, never again.:headscrat

Everyone knows you’re supposed to use a pressure washer to dig trenches.:thumbup:
The splatter was not appealing. Bath time would have taken longer than trench time!:lol_hitti
 

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Our last house was on the end of a dead-end street. The snow plow would pile snow on part of our yard. Each spring I would use the shop vac to pickup the gravel. I created two parking spaces for the kids cars with the gravel I picked up.
 

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Re: Deck Ramp Threshold, 2.0

The sidewalk is not curved, from C to D is a straight edge

Pete don't let this go if you're still not seeing it.

OK, if the sidewalk isn't curved, why isn't that bottom edge in contact all the way along, not just from B to C?
I understand that you can't make the fold line a compound one(I'm not sure if that's the right word either, but can't think of a better one), but I was thinking that the upper and lower bends could be made not parallel, so the dimension E to D was greater than dimension A to B.
Alternatively could you make the fold line in two parts, slightly angled? Cut a notch at C, make one fold from A to C, then another at C to D at an angle to bring D down to the sidewalk. It's been a long time since I used a press brake but I think that could work.
Imaginative Pete
 

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I feel the pain of broken glass laying everywhere.

When I bought my place it was vacant, but there was junk everywhere including two storm doors. Part of the purchase contract was the previous owner would clean up said junk and get rid of it. She hired a guy with a skid steer, who basically pushed everything into a pile, then loaded up the dumpster, including the glass storm doors.

I've been picking up pieces of storm door glass for 21 years now. Every winter the frost pushes new pieces up that had been covered by dirt previously and I'll see a glint of a reflection walking through the area where they broke. I would have gladly carried those storm doors to his dumpster if I had been given the opportunity all those years ago.

My dad used to clean his concrete apron in front of the garage with a shop vac.
 

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A friend of mine bought himself about 20 acres of land that was previously used as a "salvage yard" and one of the first things he did was go buy a used dirt screening/sorting machine and a small excavator. Every weekend he would go over and dig out the top 3 feet of dirt in an area, run it through the screener and put it back into place, roll it down a bit and keep going. When he finished the area he wanted to build his house and shop on he dug out everything for those and screened it as well. It took a while to finish the entire place in the areas he kept as grass (he added a 5 acre pond and an area for livestock) Now the place has grass that looks like a golf course and after he totaled up all the metal he recovered the scrap price covered the cost of the screener. He couldn't believe how many parts and pieces came out of the ground.
 

dpljmurphy

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Well as a matter of fact I have TR6SR650, but only to find some surveying pins. There are so many metal bits scattered around the property, a metal detector would be going off continuously I'm afraid. When I was vacuuming up the glass around the trees this week, I uncovered a brake wheel cylinder and a large "E" shaped shim of some sort, semi-buried in the dirt. I never cease to be amazed at the wide range of cast off parts I find. Clearly they didn't believe in recycling metal.


We sold 10 acers of land, the buyer wanted the corners flagged. We had never been able to find the SW corner as it was buried in the forest. after stomping around for 1/2 an hour we had flagged the 3 easy corners that were on the roads. I pulled out the trust iPhone and fired up google maps, zoomed in and the property boarders were there; used it to navigate to the corner under the full canopy. Still amazed that it worked, pin was right there. Keep in mind that there is no public road for a mile on one side and the entire Olympic national park on the other.
 
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BB767

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Crickets and tumbleweed......

Don't you like the new format Thomas?

Lyndon
Well not exactly Lyndon. I'm trying to be open minded about it, but the jury's still out. Not a big fan of fixing something that's not broken and the old format worked extremely well in my opinion.

Lou is here with us again this summer and we've been doing a bunch of projects together. One involved Gus, getting him ready for the 4th of July parade. I'll post about it and for Pete I did promise to post background on the TR4. I haven't forgotten Pete, honest!!

Thomas
 

oldschoolbob

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Well not exactly Lyndon. I'm trying to be open minded about it, but the jury's still out. Not a big fan of fixing something that's not broken and the old format worked extremely well in my opinion.
I didn't want to say anything but I agree with you. I thought the old format was fine.
 

Bob Heine

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Just my guess. The old format, from our side, worked fine but from Ryan's side it was a very different story. Think of it like Netscape, Internet Explorer and a host of other browsers worked fine but when better browsers arrived, most people switched. Anyone still using them has no recourse when they don't work right and there is zero chance new features will be added and performance improvements are impossible to implement. It's not like Ryan switched the Garage Journal to an iPhone- or Android-only platform and kicked us computer users to the curb. I get that we were on the best side of the learning curve with the old format but it's like the dimmer switch moving from under my left foot to the directional stalk -- I've gotten used to it even though I still believe that floor switch worked just fine.
 
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