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I (re)discovered this Ohio Tool #27 Jointer Plane. I remember it from my childhood but I don't remember anyone ever using
That will be a beast of a user!
That's the premium line of tools compared to my Scioto posted above. Wedge the handle forward when you remount it. If the mouth is too wide, you can always resole it, but with the density of that tool, it plowed thru knots for me. Comfy handle too.

I've got an unmarked 26" plane, I need to get bigger wood, and a clearer bench to use it.
 

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Early pre-lateral Stanley 4½ smooth plane (Type 4). It is 10” long with a 2 3/8” wide cutter.

Stanley began manufacturing the 4½ smooth planes in 1884, and late that year introduced the lateral adjustment lever, which became the defining feature of the Type 5s and all subsequent Types. As a result, the Type 4 was likely produced for less than a full year in 1884.
 

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Stanley #95 Edge trimming plane
I've had this for a few months and finally got around to using it yesterday. The blade needs sharpening but it did a surprisingly good job. Quick and easy.

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Not sure if this is the best category, but I have a hand scraper that uses a blade like a scraper plane. It was patented by Chester L. Britt on Feb 07, 1899 (#619131). The blade is 3" wide by 4 1/4" long, .066" thick. The only marking is on the frame down by where the blade comes out, buts it's difficult to read.

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Not sure if this is the best category, but I have a hand scraper that uses a blade like a scraper plane
Works for me. I think we have a few other handled scrapers in here, think I posted mine here.

That's a different one, I think I have a Starrett and a Stearns
 

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Speaking of scrapers.....
Here's a new-to-me (but not to the world) Scraper Shave I bought yesterday.
There is no name and it looks like it might have been user made. The handle is reminiscent of a tavisher but the sole and blade are flat.
The blade has a 45 degree bevel and is mounted not-quite 90 degrees to the sole. The wood looks like some kind of fruit wood - most likely apple.

Has anyone here ever used a scraper shave? I can't wait to try it out.

Front, back, bottom, and side views


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Speaking of scrapers.....
Here's a new-to-me (but not to the world) Scraper Shave I bought yesterday.
There is no name and it looks like it might have been user made. The handle is reminiscent of a tavisher but the sole and blade are flat.
The blade has a 45 degree bevel and is mounted not-quite 90 degrees to the sole. The wood looks like some kind of fruit wood - most likely apple.

Has anyone here ever used a scraper shave? I can't wait to try it out.

Front, back, bottom, and side views


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Never used one, but would expect it to behave similar to other scrapers.
 

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Speaking of scrapers.....
Here's a new-to-me (but not to the world) Scraper Shave I bought yesterday.
There is no name and it looks like it might have been user made. The handle is reminiscent of a tavisher but the sole and blade are flat.
The blade has a 45 degree bevel and is mounted not-quite 90 degrees to the sole. The wood looks like some kind of fruit wood - most likely apple.

Has anyone here ever used a scraper shave? I can't wait to try it out.

Front, back, bottom, and side views


I have one that hinted at gunstock shave when comparing images online.

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Need some opinions on this one. Marked United on the lever cap and a label by the frog United Tools. It has features indicating Stanley made it. The No. 4 at the nose. The kidney hole on the lever cap. The shape of the main body at the frog, the two piece lateral adjuster. Problem is it has a blade adjuster right-hand threaded and really bad surface finish on the sides, bottom and blade. The lever cap and chip breaker were chrome plated. No country of origin markings. Any ideas?
 

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Here is one I haven't seen before. It's an aluminum block plane marked on lever cap "Util Plane of Chicago U.S.A.". (Old Tool Guy thinks it's Util-A-Plane). No other markings. It has an unusual shaped blade narrowing at the clap screw area. I believe the somewhat rectangular opens on each side was to accommodate a reamer for lever cap alignment. Very lightweight. It's .56 pounds compared to an equivalent sized iron Sargent of 1.25 pounds. Could not find any information on this company and this model is the only one I found with a search.
 

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I bet it’s UTILA-PLANE.

As in, UTILATY? ;)

I'll bet that would work well on parmesan cheese.

Here's a link to another example.


From the same site, a post on aluminum planes.

 

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As in, UTILATY? ;)

I'll bet that would work well on parmesan cheese.

Here's a link to another example.


From the same site, a post on aluminum planes.

Thanks for the links. Unfortunately no new information.
 

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Just bought this one to see what I could salvage. Basically, it's a disaster. The main body is broke on both sides and one side of the mouth. The adjustable mouth has a broken lug for the adjuster. The knob and adjuster are ok. The rear adjuster is so worn down it does not reach the grooves in the cutter. The lateral adjuster is missing. Cutter looks ok. The lever cap was obviously brazed. Unfortunately they welded it back on at the wrong angle so the lever does not tough the blade to clamp. Options are to grind some away until it touches. Reweld it. Leave alone as an example of bad welding. The lever was patented July 6, 1897 (585889) by Albert Page and was assigned to Sargent. Have not found the model number yet. I like a challenge, but this one may be too far gone.

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. The lever was patented July 6, 1897 (585889) by Albert Page and was assigned to Sargent. Have not found the model number yet. I like a challenge, but this one may be too far gone.
I have the Sargent plane book at home, can try to look tonight if you have no luck.

 

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I have the Sargent plane book at home, can try to look tonight if you have no luck.

I have the green 1911 Sargent catalog but it is not listed. I did find it as a Fulton being sold by Sears 1908 (Halfway down on left side).
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Just bought this one to see what I could salvage. Basically, it's a disaster. The main body is broke on both sides and one side of the mouth. The adjustable mouth has a broken lug for the adjuster. The knob and adjuster are ok. The rear adjuster is so worn down it does not reach the grooves in the cutter. The lateral adjuster is missing. Cutter looks ok. The lever cap was obviously brazed. Unfortunately they welded it back on at the wrong angle so the lever does not tough the blade to clamp. Options are to grind some away until it touches. Reweld it. Leave alone as an example of bad welding. The lever was patented July 6, 1897 (585889) by Albert Page and was assigned to Sargent. Have not found the model number yet. I like a challenge, but this one may be too far gone.

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You could remove the front and sides and make a chisel plane.
 

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Anyone know which plane this iron and chip breaker goes with? It was in a box of plane parts. It appears to have the remnants of a Stanley Rule and Level stamp.

Edit: Stanley 135 plane is the answer I believe Screenshot_20260810_223551_Chrome.jpg
From super tool
 

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Anyone know which plane this iron and chip breaker goes with? It was in a box of plane parts. It appears to have the remnants of a Stanley Rule and Level stamp.

Edit: Stanley 135 plane is the answer I believe Screenshot_20260810_223551_Chrome.jpg
From super tool
The name & number would be stamped in the front end.
 

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Here is an Edwin Hahn plane that I picked up Saturday from a guy who used to be a member of the local tool collectors group, but let his membership lapse about 5yrs ago (COVID?). His sale was one of the few with pix in advance, so I made it my first stop. The original pic had a 607 Bedrock, which was gone, but the majority were still there. He had a few oddballs like a 5-1/4, that I already owned, so I didn't look at those much but focused more on the different planes. First one I looked at was a brand I had seen before , think it was a Chaplin. The next was this one with a weird slot in the blade which was tied to the lateral adjuster. He mentioned that it was a "hain" plane which meant nothing to me. Price was reasonable, but not cheap, so I took it home. I saw it had been repainted in flat black with other layers still visible beneath.

Got home, and spent part of Sunday researching. Found out it's actually an Edwin Hahn, slightly obscure maker who bought leftover assets from Siegley after Stanley bought them out around 1901. He worked from 1902-1919 or so. Since Stanley bought the Siegley patents, he couldn't use them, so he changed a few things. I need to dig deeper to determine if I have a Franken plane, or just early stuff that wasn't documented in other studies.

Stuff I did not notice. 1) Hahn was known for a checkered handle, but in the online pix, it's much more subtle, was it replaced on mine, or an early thing. 2) Siegley had set screw adjustable location devices on the lever cap which I don't have, (which also doubled as a chip breaker.) Hahn added a front plate to replace this feature, which I know I don't have. The knob to tighten the lever cap, and the whoop de do at the top above the bar looks the same, Anyone think they recognize if from another make 3) mine does not have a threaded nail holding the handle on.

I wonder if there is a type study of when he took over from Siegley, and changes made thru the company's lifetime. This book may know, but not doing well finding a copy yet.
Plane Makers of Wikes-Barre, Pennsylvania: Jacob Siegley, Edwin Hahn, Keystone Tool Works by John F Rumpf.

Any chance one of you readers, owns a copy and can look it up to see?

So, this is an E. Hahn body, No. 8 size, with an Edwin Hahn blade. Not sure if the chip breaker is original, pretty sure the knob and tote are not.

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I finally got the "T" trademark twins sorted and sharp. I keep lucking out on old irons that still have clean, useable faces. I had to refinish the tote on the 5.5, but sent the tote on the #2 to Gordon Addison and the repair is invisible, I'd have to tell someone that it was repaired. He's a wizard or something considering the bottom of the tote had shattered and was missing chunks.
 

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Here is an Edwin Hahn plane that I picked up Saturday from a guy who used to be a member of the local tool collectors group, but let his membership lapse about 5yrs ago (COVID?). His sale was one of the few with pix in advance, so I made it my first stop. The original pic had a 607 Bedrock, which was gone, but the majority were still there. He had a few oddballs like a 5-1/4, that I already owned, so I didn't look at those much but focused more on the different planes. First one I looked at was a brand I had seen before , think it was a Chaplin. The next was this one with a weird slot in the blade which was tied to the lateral adjuster. He mentioned that it was a "hain" plane which meant nothing to me. Price was reasonable, but not cheap, so I took it home. I saw it had been repainted in flat black with other layers still visible beneath.

Got home, and spent part of Sunday researching. Found out it's actually an Edwin Hahn, slightly obscure maker who bought leftover assets from Siegley after Stanley bought them out around 1901. He worked from 1902-1919 or so. Since Stanley bought the Siegley patents, he couldn't use them, so he changed a few things. I need to dig deeper to determine if I have a Franken plane, or just early stuff that wasn't documented in other studies.

Stuff I did not notice. 1) Hahn was known for a checkered handle, but in the online pix, it's much more subtle, was it replaced on mine, or an early thing. 2) Siegley had set screw adjustable location devices on the lever cap which I don't have, (which also doubled as a chip breaker.) Hahn added a front plate to replace this feature, which I know I don't have. The knob to tighten the lever cap, and the whoop de do at the top above the bar looks the same, Anyone think they recognize if from another make 3) mine does not have a threaded nail holding the handle on.

I wonder if there is a type study of when he took over from Siegley, and changes made thru the company's lifetime. This book may know, but not doing well finding a copy yet.
Plane Makers of Wikes-Barre, Pennsylvania: Jacob Siegley, Edwin Hahn, Keystone Tool Works by John F Rumpf.

Any chance one of you readers, owns a copy and can look it up to see?

So, this is an E. Hahn body, No. 8 size, with an Edwin Hahn blade. Not sure if the chip breaker is original, pretty sure the knob and tote are not.

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I've seen a few of those over the years, that handle may be a replacement. The place to find more info on those is Roger Smiths books. Did you get the Chaplin? That could have been a better plane.
 

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I've seen a few of those over the years, that handle may be a replacement. The place to find more info on those is Roger Smiths books. Did you get the Chaplin? That could have been a better plane.
I didn't get a good chance to look at the handle and knob shapes in those other pictures that I linked that'll be soon. I chickened out on the Chaplin. It was a little more expensive and less different to me. Was not after value.
The seller flashed the book, I need to fish mine out again. Got a club sale Saturday, may take the book and plane for looking when things are slow.
 
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. 2) Siegley had set screw adjustable location devices on the lever cap which I don't have, (which also doubled as a chip breaker.) Hahn added a front plate to replace this feature, which I know I don't have. The knob to tighten the lever cap, and the whoop de do at the top above the bar looks the same,
Looking at the Time Tested Tools link under Researching, I found this: Hahn apparently never used Siegley’s patented adjustable cap. His earlier planes had no adjustment on the cap but models sometime subsequent to 1906 had an adjustment system at the bottom of the cap.

So it looks like mine might be a 1904-06 version


1) Hahn was known for a checkered handle, but in the online pix, it's much more subtle, was it replaced on mine, or an early thing.
Again, I found

All Hahn planes known to the author have a stained hardwood tote and knob with checkering on the tote.

So mine being a replacement seems logical.
 
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