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Looks like there is a split in front if the button on the back plane.





That will be a beast of a user!I (re)discovered this Ohio Tool #27 Jointer Plane. I remember it from my childhood but I don't remember anyone ever using





Works for me. I think we have a few other handled scrapers in here, think I posted mine here.Not sure if this is the best category, but I have a hand scraper that uses a blade like a scraper plane
Never used one, but would expect it to behave similar to other scrapers.
Speaking of scrapers.....
Here's a new-to-me (but not to the world) Scraper Shave I bought yesterday.
There is no name and it looks like it might have been user made. The handle is reminiscent of a tavisher but the sole and blade are flat.
The blade has a 45 degree bevel and is mounted not-quite 90 degrees to the sole. The wood looks like some kind of fruit wood - most likely apple.
Has anyone here ever used a scraper shave? I can't wait to try it out.
Front, back, bottom, and side views
I have one that hinted at gunstock shave when comparing images online.
Speaking of scrapers.....
Here's a new-to-me (but not to the world) Scraper Shave I bought yesterday.
There is no name and it looks like it might have been user made. The handle is reminiscent of a tavisher but the sole and blade are flat.
The blade has a 45 degree bevel and is mounted not-quite 90 degrees to the sole. The wood looks like some kind of fruit wood - most likely apple.
Has anyone here ever used a scraper shave? I can't wait to try it out.
Front, back, bottom, and side views

You may be right. Interesting scrabble like meaning? Still, can't find information. Would not recommend it for a user. Too light. Just doesn't feel right. One of my favorite block planes is a Veritas nickel alloy that feels three times heavier.
I bet it’s UTILA-PLANE.
Thanks for the links. Unfortunately no new information.As in, UTILATY?
I'll bet that would work well on parmesan cheese.
Here's a link to another example.
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A weird aluminum plane
One of the weirdest block planes about is the UTIL Plane, from Chicago. Weird because the body and lever cap are made of cast aluminum, and there is next to no information about this plane. Stanley…workingbyhand.wordpress.com
From the same site, a post on aluminum planes.
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Aluminum block planes
Aluminum block planes are the odd ducks of block planes. The problem with early cast-iron planes was the fact that were they to be accidentally dropped on the floor, they likely would not survive d…workingbyhand.wordpress.com
That was my thought.Interesting scrabble like meaning?




I have the Sargent plane book at home, can try to look tonight if you have no luck.. The lever was patented July 6, 1897 (585889) by Albert Page and was assigned to Sargent. Have not found the model number yet. I like a challenge, but this one may be too far gone.
I have the green 1911 Sargent catalog but it is not listed. I did find it as a Fulton being sold by Sears 1908 (Halfway down on left side).I have the Sargent plane book at home, can try to look tonight if you have no luck.
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Sargent tools
If you have been reading my posts by now you should have some ideas of my favorite tools. Let me now introduced you to the Sargent tools, m...thevalleywoodworker.blogspot.com

You could remove the front and sides and make a chisel plane.Just bought this one to see what I could salvage. Basically, it's a disaster. The main body is broke on both sides and one side of the mouth. The adjustable mouth has a broken lug for the adjuster. The knob and adjuster are ok. The rear adjuster is so worn down it does not reach the grooves in the cutter. The lateral adjuster is missing. Cutter looks ok. The lever cap was obviously brazed. Unfortunately they welded it back on at the wrong angle so the lever does not tough the blade to clamp. Options are to grind some away until it touches. Reweld it. Leave alone as an example of bad welding. The lever was patented July 6, 1897 (585889) by Albert Page and was assigned to Sargent. Have not found the model number yet. I like a challenge, but this one may be too far gone.
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Actually, thats a pretty good idea for this one. Thank you.You could remove the front and sides and make a chisel plane.









I've seen a few of those over the years, that handle may be a replacement. The place to find more info on those is Roger Smiths books. Did you get the Chaplin? That could have been a better plane.Here is an Edwin Hahn plane that I picked up Saturday from a guy who used to be a member of the local tool collectors group, but let his membership lapse about 5yrs ago (COVID?). His sale was one of the few with pix in advance, so I made it my first stop. The original pic had a 607 Bedrock, which was gone, but the majority were still there. He had a few oddballs like a 5-1/4, that I already owned, so I didn't look at those much but focused more on the different planes. First one I looked at was a brand I had seen before , think it was a Chaplin. The next was this one with a weird slot in the blade which was tied to the lateral adjuster. He mentioned that it was a "hain" plane which meant nothing to me. Price was reasonable, but not cheap, so I took it home. I saw it had been repainted in flat black with other layers still visible beneath.
Got home, and spent part of Sunday researching. Found out it's actually an Edwin Hahn, slightly obscure maker who bought leftover assets from Siegley after Stanley bought them out around 1901. He worked from 1902-1919 or so. Since Stanley bought the Siegley patents, he couldn't use them, so he changed a few things. I need to dig deeper to determine if I have a Franken plane, or just early stuff that wasn't documented in other studies.
Stuff I did not notice. 1) Hahn was known for a checkered handle, but in the online pix, it's much more subtle, was it replaced on mine, or an early thing. 2) Siegley had set screw adjustable location devices on the lever cap which I don't have, (which also doubled as a chip breaker.) Hahn added a front plate to replace this feature, which I know I don't have. The knob to tighten the lever cap, and the whoop de do at the top above the bar looks the same, Anyone think they recognize if from another make 3) mine does not have a threaded nail holding the handle on.
I wonder if there is a type study of when he took over from Siegley, and changes made thru the company's lifetime. This book may know, but not doing well finding a copy yet.
Plane Makers of Wikes-Barre, Pennsylvania: Jacob Siegley, Edwin Hahn, Keystone Tool Works by John F Rumpf.
Any chance one of you readers, owns a copy and can look it up to see?
So, this is an E. Hahn body, No. 8 size, with an Edwin Hahn blade. Not sure if the chip breaker is original, pretty sure the knob and tote are not.
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I didn't get a good chance to look at the handle and knob shapes in those other pictures that I linked that'll be soon. I chickened out on the Chaplin. It was a little more expensive and less different to me. Was not after value.I've seen a few of those over the years, that handle may be a replacement. The place to find more info on those is Roger Smiths books. Did you get the Chaplin? That could have been a better plane.
Looking at the Time Tested Tools link under Researching, I found this: Hahn apparently never used Siegley’s patented adjustable cap. His earlier planes had no adjustment on the cap but models sometime subsequent to 1906 had an adjustment system at the bottom of the cap.. 2) Siegley had set screw adjustable location devices on the lever cap which I don't have, (which also doubled as a chip breaker.) Hahn added a front plate to replace this feature, which I know I don't have. The knob to tighten the lever cap, and the whoop de do at the top above the bar looks the same,
Again, I found1) Hahn was known for a checkered handle, but in the online pix, it's much more subtle, was it replaced on mine, or an early thing.