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kkroger

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I actually have a couple stainless steel signs coming up for a 911 call center that will have a roadmap of the city and surrounding area cut in both sides it will have Acrylic in it also frosted so that it looks dark and gray in the daylight and then visible white when lit. They specified fully welded box, and I am not providing the light, They are... I had to ask them how they intended to get their lighting IN there... They looked at me like I was insane... Waiting for the SS to get back from Laser. Structures are built waiting...
 
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I actually have a couple stainless steel signs coming up for a 911 call center that will have a roadmap of the city and surrounding area cut in both sides it will have Acrylic in it also frosted so that it looks dark and gray in the daylight and then visible white when lit. They specified fully welded box, and I am not providing the light, They are... I had to ask them how they intended to get their lighting IN there... They looked at me like I was insane... Waiting for the SS to get back from Laser. Structures are built waiting...



Sounds cool! Thanks for the recommendations


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I know nothing about lighting stuff like this, but it looks really cool so I have to learn a little more...

In this example you say only one tube is used. Where is the tube placed inside the box to provide such even lighting? I would think one tube would make the light uneven based on where its placed, but that sign looks like it has a really even brightness across the whole thing.

 

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I actually have a couple stainless steel signs coming up for a 911 call center that will have a roadmap of the city and surrounding area cut in both sides it will have Acrylic in it also frosted so that it looks dark and gray in the daylight and then visible white when lit. They specified fully welded box, and I am not providing the light, They are... I had to ask them how they intended to get their lighting IN there... They looked at me like I was insane... Waiting for the SS to get back from Laser. Structures are built waiting...



Why did you laser and not use your plasma?


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kkroger

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Actually for the edge quality of the cutouts, air plasma can't cut as tight or as CLEAN on Stainless
Just the way it is and they specifically wanted "Laser" Waterjet frosts the edges of the SS face, Laser is pretty clean and the HAZ is lesser than with plasma...
 

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Have to lay in a new wire for my dogs' invisible fence. Each time I get about 3-4 years before breaks begin to develop. So this time I'm laying in 1/2" pvc conduit so hopefully it won't break again and if it does, it'll be pretty easy to fish through a new wire. Started pouring outside so I thought I'd take the time to post this:
Since the trench only needs to be 2-4" deep, I came up with this contraption modeled after a farm plow to drag behind my atv...
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Other than the Harbor Freight wheels and hitch, it's all steel I had laying around. And since this is a welding thread, I've gotten much better with the help of some kind people on the Welding Question thread...

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I'll get some pics of the trench when the rain stops.
 

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danielbuck

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How did you make these? Use a hand held tubing bender?

I would have normally bent them up in a manual rod/bar bender, but a lot of my tools are (were) still in storage at the time as I had just moved, so I just picked up some of those pieces pre-bent. The only bender I had in my garage at the time was my tube bender which I used to bend the rails, but that is too large for these little pieces.

If I were to be making lots of them, I would probably make a die for the shop press, and pop them out by the dozen.

They work well for light duty stuff. I'm not strapping down vehicles or heavy machinery, so I'm sure there is probably a more preferred way of securing hooks on heavier duty applications. Not to mention the rails themselves are just bolted to the sheet metal of the bed side.
 

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I don’t get to weld as much as I want to but I love making stuff they don’t make or I can’t find lol, yes it’s welded as well on the back side and braced with a 1/4 plate running the full length welded in on the back
 

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Cut and drilled the angle iron holddowns for my Cliff Carrol wide face anvil. This is a Farriers type anvil. It will be perfect for my horseshoe artwork.
 

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Have to lay in a new wire for my dogs' invisible fence. Each time I get about 3-4 years before breaks begin to develop. So this time I'm laying in 1/2" pvc conduit so hopefully it won't break again and if it does, it'll be pretty easy to fish through a new wire. Started pouring outside so I thought I'd take the time to post this:
Since the trench only needs to be 2-4" deep, I came up with this contraption modeled after a farm plow to drag behind my atv...
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Other than the Harbor Freight wheels and hitch, it's all steel I had laying around. And since this is a welding thread, I've gotten much better with the help of some kind people on the Welding Question thread...

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I'll get some pics of the trench when the rain stops.

Muggsy, why not try some pex tubing? Flexible, comes in long lengths.
 

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Muggsy, why not try some pex tubing? Flexible, comes in long lengths.
'cause the pex is about 15% more expensive (at least at HD) and I've never worked with it before. If I spent more time on the design, I might have been able to make it lay in a continuous roll of pex and then it would certainly have been worth the extra cost, but I gotta get 'er done before I leave for vacation this week and have to trust my house sitter to watch the dogs that closely.

Here's the trench (furrow) it makes. Got to finish the last of about 1000' today. It's been pretty good about ripping through roots & pulling up stones. Good thing the ground is wet [emoji16]
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kkroger

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Why not just use underground burial cable? designed for years and years of use underground...
 

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Needed more room to use my shrinker/stretcher set, so I welded a stand together this afternoon. Now my panel doesn't hit the bench I was clamping them to.

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Why not just use underground burial cable? designed for years and years of use underground...
Not sure exactly what you mean by underground cable. These systems come with direct burial 22 awg solid wire. Small gage, I know but what can I say. With the price of copper these days, going to a larger gage seemed like it *might* buy me an extra year or two before the next break. My soil is mostly hard rocky clay. I think they call it "hard pack". Lucky it's been raining a lot here so the soil is softened up quite a bit.

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kkroger

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Not sure exactly what you mean by underground cable. These systems come with direct burial 22 awg solid wire. Small gage, I know but what can I say. With the price of copper these days, going to a larger gage seemed like it *might* buy me an extra year or two before the next break. My soil is mostly hard rocky clay. I think they call it "hard pack". Lucky it's been raining a lot here so the soil is softened up quite a bit.

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You could lay a strip of aluminum Direct burial service cable... heaver gauge
 
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kkroger

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12/2 Direct Burial 500' for about $230... so that is 1000 feet of wire, you would have to put a J-box in to join the two, but that is specifically copper.
 

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I built traction bars for my Dodge over the course of too many days. Big difference in downshifts with the 6spd and exhaust brake already. Interested to see how much of a difference there is towing the trailer.

I think I needed to pull the amperage down a bit more for welding the cups to the .25w tube.


 

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I built traction bars for my Dodge over the course of too many days. Big difference in downshifts with the 6spd and exhaust brake already. Interested to see how much of a difference there is towing the trailer.

I think I needed to pull the amperage down a bit more for welding the cups to the .25w tube.





Nice looking work.
 

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Couple of the dozen or so projects I currently have going on for a local restaurant chain... a shelving unit for their backbar... and a seating unit for their waiting area at the front of the store... Other items are some screens for some areas where they want to block access or eyes, and a foot rail at the bar 30' 2" tube... Also custom brackets for under their backbar and some supports for quartz countertops that are elsewhere in the bar...


 

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I need a 11/16” torque wrench adapter, don’t have one but I do have a harbor freight 11/16 wrench & a 1/2” drive tab from an oil filter wrench. Tig them together, works good.

I’m just learning tig, it makes nice welds.
 

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I built traction bars for my Dodge over the course of too many days. Big difference in downshifts with the 6spd and exhaust brake already. Interested to see how much of a difference there is towing the trailer.

I think I needed to pull the amperage down a bit more for welding the cups to the .25w tube.

What are traction bars? Not heard of those before.
 

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traction bars aka anti wrap bars.

Used with leaf spring suspensions. keeps the rear axle from wanting to rotate the pinion on hard accel and decel.

Extreme cases you can get enough axle wrap to max out the u-joint and break it or break the yoke when it bottoms out. Plus it allows more power to the ground vs losing it in the suspension.
 

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What are traction bars? Not heard of those before.

traction bars aka anti wrap bars.

Used with leaf spring suspensions. keeps the rear axle from wanting to rotate the pinion on hard accel and decel.

Extreme cases you can get enough axle wrap to max out the u-joint and break it or break the yoke when it bottoms out. Plus it allows more power to the ground vs losing it in the suspension.

^that.

I've got a manual and when letting out the clutch with the exhaust brake on unloaded I used to get a shudder. Then with the trailer hooked up, you can feel the pinion wrap as the u-joint vibes accelerating from a stop.
 

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It is a bigger pain when the axle wrap is enough to just mushroom all the bolt heads on the yoke. This makes changing a broken driveshaft in the middle of the desert much more challenging :)
 

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I need a 11/16” torque wrench adapter, don’t have one but I do have a harbor freight 11/16 wrench & a 1/2” drive tab from an oil filter wrench. Tig them together, works good.

I’m just learning tig, it makes nice welds.

You do realize that will change the torque by using that adapter.
 

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Made a coat or helmet hanger for inside one of the compartments on the boo boo bus at work. It'll get mounted to some uni-strut looking stuff.
 

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I work in a construction field specially mean welding, wanted to share some safety measures about welding...

Wear the proper gear
Right shoes
Breathe freely though wearing helmet
Don't see the light
Use auto-darkening helmets.......

Think my post could be useful for welders..:beer:
 

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I am adding on to my RV parking bay so I can install a taller door and fit a longer MH into it. This involves raising the roof on part of the bay which means extending 4 of the existing posts. Most of the brackets are just simple flat plates but 2 of them require the plate to have a jog in them to clear existing framing. I used 1/4" and 3/16" plate and some 2"x3"x1/8" tubing. 3/8" lag bolts attach the brackets to the posts.

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