Tools from the old world

[submariner]

get a torque screwdriver then, it will fit well in your Assistent along with a bigger wrench.

I think I will take up your advice and buy a torque screwdriver. I will research Euro models, this will be fun as it never crossed my mind.

that CDI + the Garant one would be a great combination methinks... and still fit in your budget.

Yeah that CDI model is quite cheap compared to the Facom model, considering the range is almost similar and the CDI is marked as made in USA, the Facom is of unknown COO.

 

[garthg]

I have to sale a Hazet torque wrench 6122-1CT (40 - 200 Nm). You have the possibility to get the wrench for cheap price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231263211043?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

That's a very nice deal, but shipping is a killer!

 

[dutch79]

Pliers Wrench rocks !

It's a nice but expensive wrench. Is this actualy the only brand that produces this type of wrench (modern bahco style)?

 

[Monte]

Pliers Wrench rocks !

yeah !!!

Hi Monte,
Who makes that torque wrench? We use one that looks exactly the same, but is branded Gedore.

In the past Gedore sold most of their torque wrenches under the "Rahsol" brand, a company they bought a while ago. But since a few years they sell all of their hand tools under the Gedore name (except forest tools)

I want those, do You know when they will be available

the impacts ? me too ..But i don´t know. The guess is either around september because the new promo flyer will be released then or maybe next year. A 10,8 volt wallscanner will be available soon too and a 10,8 volt drywall screwdriver with EC motor.

That car looks fantastic. A complete restauration?

It was" restored" in the US... (bondo over rust...) We only added new bushings, tie rods etc. and a chrome pulley kit, new brake booster, steering pump, new valve covers, air filter housing, water neck, new brake and fuel lines at the front end etc..... Basically "soup it up" a bit. Interior was replaced in the US and a few chrome parts. We wanted to add window crank handles, side vent window crank handles etc. but the fitment is not that great (made in Taiwan). New side vent windows will be installed too. Overall the parts fitment and quality of the new parts was not that great (missing parts, wrong threads, chewed up threads, plated/polished parts which had to be reworked...) Ok most parts were "white box" brand and others from a couple of US brands. No QC and from China and Taiwan it seems...

Now, tools at work on a less prestine car - my daily driver...

looks good too
i prefer Chevy + Cadillac though
the last time i worked on mine it looked like that: (i don´t own it anymore though )

I think I will take up your advice and buy a torque screwdriver. I will research Euro models, this will be fun as it never crossed my mind.

Felo offers reasonably priced models: http://felo.de/en/catalog/series/s-nm/

It's a nice but expensive wrench. Is this actualy the only brand that produces this type of wrench (modern bahco style)?

VBW www.vbw.de

Hazet can opener a.k.a tire lever

 

[upgrading]

It's a nice but expensive wrench.

Thanks to the "Hot Deals" forum I got it for about $33 USD.

 

[cosmik binturong]

It's a nice but expensive wrench. Is this actualy the only brand that produces this type of wrench (modern bahco style)?

i got a couple brand new Knipex pliers for sale, 86 03 180 and 87 01 250 shipped together to any UE country + Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Vatican for 55.00€ or sixty for all non-UE european countries(including, of course, Iceland ).

if interested: PM, Paypah, trackah numbah, blah blah blah...


edit: got some pics of 'em:

 

[kris ltc]

i own a set but rarely use them so i can´t comment much. I usually use Wurth drivers but i think the crosshead (PH/PZ) tips are a bit too soft, i heard this about the newer Wera too, so i think i would check out Wiha or Wit



thanks for advice monte, do you heard about the wiha micro finish? it's a purple finish handle, i was thinking about to try out a set.

 

[TjoFrasse]

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Nice varied collection!

A new bunch of Ko-ken sockets arrived today.
Everytime I am deeply surprised how astonishing the finish is.
The fit on different ratchets is awesome.
I would advise everyone that he should try Ko-ken.

Those are good looking! I have to get some more Ko-ken...

... some impressions of my new selfmade Hazet working place/bench. It is painted with original Hazet colour

Cool setup!

Nice haul. Gonna have a closer look at that store. Some cool stuff there.

Yes, had a real surprise when I found it. Didn't think real surplus store finds existed any more...

Hehe, combine the sickle with one of your hammers and you´ll get a logotype you neither see that often...
Nice tools, i really like the Hultafors screwdrivers.

Yes, perhaps that is a part of why the sickle is such a rare tool now a days

It's funny how I love the look of hard transparent handles, but usually don't like using them...

So, now my second order has arrived. They're quick with shipping, two working days from order to delivery.

I got this kit: http://store.flobyoverskottslager.se/product/verktygssats-i-ryggsäck A tool kit from the Danish "Civilförsvaret" (I'm not good with military stuff so don't know the translation, but like a part of the military that is not fighting, but instead helping the civilian society both during war and large disasters). When I saw the kit and the price I quickly thought it was a great value purchase, and after some thinking I bought it. Everything it marked with "CF" and sometimes a crown. Everything looks unused, and is covered in protective oil (and lots of dust). Some paint damage is present though, but no rust thanks to the oil.

Now comes a lot of large pictures...

DSI roofing hammer. Made in Denmark and in good condition.

Sledge hammer, not the same one as shown in the product images. No markings of any kind.

AGDOR Hults Bruks axe.

"Sweden's most sold axe." warranty info and some bragging about it.

Pick, marked with "U.S Diamond Calc 1944". Anyone has any info?

Chisels. Not the same as in product image either. One without markings and one marked "Made in Germany DDR".

Slotted screwdrivers. Marked "Botalit Denmark".

Combination/lineman's pliers. Marked "IBC Germany" and "IBETUM". Anyone has any knowledge/info?

Gedore adjustable wrench.

E.A Berg end cutter. Made in Sweden.

Gedore pipe wrench. 175-1 1/2" made in Germany.

Record bolt cutter. Made in England. 5/16" capacity or 8mm.

Viking hack saw with spare blades. (http://www.vikingsaw.dk/1)

Jack double sided saw. Made in Denmark from the finest swedish steel The brand "Jack" seems to be owned by Irwin now a days.

Short crowbar. No markings.

Nails were a part of the pack

Gloves also.

And the backpack itself.

And not a part of the pack, a GGC level. Made in Sweden.

As always when finding NOS, it feels a bit wrong to start using the items (since they're only NOS once), but I brought this for the pipe wrench and bolt cutter, and can't justify spending that much money on collector items. Some of the other things will probably be unused since I already have the tools though.

 

[Roverbo]

Nice varied collection!



So, now my second order has arrived. They're quick with shipping, two working days from order to delivery.

I got this kit: http://store.flobyoverskottslager.se/product/verktygssats-i-ryggsäck A tool kit from the Danish "Civilförsvaret" (I'm not good with military stuff so don't know the translation, but like a part of the military that is not fighting, but instead helping the civilian society both during war and large disasters). When I saw the kit and the price I quickly thought it was a great value purchase, and after some thinking I bought it. Everything it marked with "CF" and sometimes a crown. Everything looks unused, and is covered in protective oil (and lots of dust). Some paint damage is present though, but no rust thanks to the oil.

Now comes a lot of large pictures...

As always when finding NOS, it feels a bit wrong to start using the items (since they're only NOS once), but I brought this for the pipe wrench and bolt cutter, and can't justify spending that much money on collector items. Some of the other things will probably be unused since I already have the tools though.

Hi Tjofrasse, very nice package...
Civilforsvaret was the civil defence in Denmark, a part of the Ministry of Defence. Now they are called Beredskabsstyrelsen, Danish Emergency Management Agency. http://brs.dk/eng/Pages/dema.aspx.
The DSI "lægtehammer" is a true danish heritage, always my go-to hammer for woodwork. All the tools are looking good, in fact...
Funny that the chisel is east-block, hey man, they were the enemy then...after the wall was teared down, and the east-german archives opened, detailed invasion plans for Denmark were exposed. Well, so much for the cold war...
Not that i don´t understand your orders, but i think that the prices are a bit hefty. It´s nearly normal in-store prices. On danish military surplus auctions, a whole pallet of mixed tools would go for, say DKK 500,- (US$ 100,-). So they make some money at Floby.
Too bad, the time of public auctions at the danish defence is over. But a lot is still sold through a private dealer, Retrade. http://www.retrade.dk/doc/info_en/infront_en?lang=EN

 

[Laro13]

It's a nice but expensive wrench. Is this actualy the only brand that produces this type of wrench (modern bahco style)?

I bought mine from Marktplaats.nl , for 30 euro's.

Here is one for €28,50 :
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/gereedschap-handgereedschap/m819468665-knipex-sleuteltang-250-nieuw.html

 

[Monte]

thanks for advice monte, do you heard about the wiha micro finish? it's a purple finish handle, i was thinking about to try out a set.

i don´t own them, but i only heard good things about Wiha here in the forum.

So, now my second order has arrived.

Awesome vintage tools !!















Bosch scraper blade for multitools



...to remove underbody coating...
(no mess compared to a wire wheel...)


...the residues can be easily ground away with the delta pad and grit 60...


...removes double-faced adhesive tape too without damaging the plastic bumper...


...and stuff glued to wood:

 

[TjoFrasse]

Hi Tjofrasse, very nice package...
Civilforsvaret was the civil defence in Denmark, a part of the Ministry of Defence. Now they are called Beredskabsstyrelsen, Danish Emergency Management Agency. http://brs.dk/eng/Pages/dema.aspx.

Sounds very similar to how it is here. Which is not unusual for us nordics

The DSI "lægtehammer" is a true danish heritage, always my go-to hammer for woodwork. All the tools are looking good, in fact...

Don't run into them that often up here. Perhaps in southern Sweden they are more common. It seems like a nice hammer though, will probably be used.

Funny that the chisel is east-block, hey man, they were the enemy then...after the wall was teared down, and the east-german archives opened, detailed invasion plans for Denmark were exposed. Well, so much for the cold war...

Very strange, considering that Denmark was a NATO member also.

Not that i don´t understand your orders, but i think that the prices are a bit hefty. It´s nearly normal in-store prices. On danish military surplus auctions, a whole pallet of mixed tools would go for, say DKK 500,- (US$ 100,-). So they make some money at Floby.
Too bad, the time of public auctions at the danish defence is over. But a lot is still sold through a private dealer, Retrade. http://www.retrade.dk/doc/info_en/infront_en?lang=EN

I understand what you mean, it was the same thing here when the defence scaled down after the cold war. Lots of items were sold at basically lower than scrap prices. But you must have better tool stores in Denmark if you think that it is store prices though. I wouldn't be able to get the same tools as new "china made ****" for this kind of money here almost. And now instead I got good quality stuff. Sure, the store probably made a good deal, but I still got some tools I needed for less money than it normally is, and also got a lot more interesting tools. That better deals were available a couple of years ago doesn't help me when I'm buying now (unfortunately)... If I had the time I would be better at looking at auctions and used, but convenience is worth much to me...

 

[TjoFrasse]

Awesome vintage tools !!


Bosch scraper blade for multitools

Thanks. As you are very knowledgeable about German brands, do you know anything about the combination plier or the chisel?

Cool scraper. So there is automotive use for a multitool also, not just carpentry

 

[Roverbo]

Chisels. Not the same as in product image either. One without markings and one marked "Made in Germany DDR".

It´s not Western Germany, it´s East Germany (DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik (correct me if I misspelled this, Monte)) And isn´t that "L" a "Lada" logotype? (I know that Lada cars were made up north in Russia, but since it was all one big, central commitee, some Lada stuff could come from East Germany).

(...)



Very strange, considering that Denmark was a NATO member also. (See above).,

(...)

But you must have better tool stores in Denmark if you think that it is store prices though. I wouldn't be able to get the same tools as new "china made ****" for this kind of money here almost. And now instead I got good quality stuff. Sure, the store probably made a good deal, but I still got some tools I needed for less money than it normally is, and also got a lot more interesting tools. That better deals were available a couple of years ago doesn't help me when I'm buying now (unfortunately)... If I had the time I would be better at looking at auctions and used, but convenience is worth much to me...

I´m on your side, and could have made the same order in a weak moment...
And I didnt´t take the NOS-issue into my thoughts. I´m not into the swedish "pro" toolmarket, but it is my impression that the prices generaly are higher in Sweden. If i compare the flyers from XL-BYG, Bauhaus and Harald Nyborg (on both Bosch, Makita, AEG and all the china-****) i get in my postbox in Sweden and here in Denmark, the swedish prices are +10-25% (including the SEK/DKK rate). And the prices at Beijer bygg or the Grannagården stores are just nuts...+25-45% compared to here. Really strange, since Beijer is owned by DLH, a danish timbercompany.

 

[dutch79]

I bought mine from Marktplaats.nl , for 30 euro's.

Here is one for €28,50 :
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/gereedschap-handgereedschap/m819468665-knipex-sleuteltang-250-nieuw.html

thanks. just bought it

 

[Laro13]

thanks. just bought it

You won't regret it!

 

[TjoFrasse]

It´s not Western Germany, it´s East Germany (DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik (correct me if I misspelled this, Monte)) And isn´t that "L" a "Lada" logotype? (I know that Lada cars were made up north in Russia, but since it was all one big, central commitee, some Lada stuff could come from East Germany).

I think you misunderstood me (perhaps it was a bit unclear)... That's what I'm saying, it is strange that they have sourced from a eastern block country, considering that Denmark was a NATO member. We here were "neutral", so sourcing for the eastern block would not be as strange.

Good observation on the logo, definitely looks like a simplified LADA badge.

I´m on your side, and could have made the same order in a weak moment...
And I didnt´t take the NOS-issue into my thoughts. I´m not into the swedish "pro" toolmarket, but it is my impression that the prices generaly are higher in Sweden. If i compare the flyers from XL-BYG, Bauhaus and Harald Nyborg (on both Bosch, Makita, AEG and all the china-****) i get in my postbox in Sweden and here in Denmark, the swedish prices are +10-25% (including the SEK/DKK rate). And the prices at Beijer bygg or the Grannagården stores are just nuts...+25-45% compared to here. Really strange, since Beijer is owned by DLH, a danish timbercompany.

Perhaps you are more affected by the closeness to Germany and their tool prices. We are definitely expensive, more than just the higher VAT explain. There is a reason I practically never buy from physical stores, and Sweden in general. The only exception is the Bahco outlet.

Like I said, the stuff I got now I probably wouldn't have been able to buy even at Biltema or Jula cheapest stuff prices.

 

[nanofrog]

Pick, marked with "U.S Diamond Calc 1944". Anyone has any info?

Perhaps a history of Diamond Calk and Horseshoe Company would interest you.

Bit more info, it's still in existence in two ways.
1. Most direct. The original company was sold to Triangle in '81, which was later sold to Cooper Industries, and their electronics plier and cutter products are still sold under the Xcelite brand to this day (I still have some of them with the "Diamalloy" stamping on them). Ownership was shifted to Apex (joint distribution company formed with Danaher Corp.), and finally Apex sold to it's current owners, Bain Capital.

2. After the sale, the family created Swanstrom Tools, which makes electronics cutters to this day (different than what's sold under Xcelite).

 

[hemdale]

Latest 2014 Fein Multimaster ?

How does it compare to the "traditional" one ?

 

[TjoFrasse]

Perhaps a history of Diamond Calk and Horseshoe Company would interest you.

Bit more info, it's still in existence in two ways.
1. Most direct. The original company was sold to Triangle in '81, which was later sold to Cooper Industries, and their electronics plier and cutter products are still sold under the Xcelite brand to this day (I still have some of them with the "Diamalloy" stamping on them). Ownership was shifted to Apex (joint distribution company formed with Danaher Corp.), and finally Apex sold to it's current owners, Bain Capital.

2. After the sale, the family created Swanstrom Tools, which makes electronics cutters to this day (different than what's sold under Xcelite).

Thanks! I've heard about Diamond adjustable wrenches before on here, but I didn't think about it before you said it. So there was a American tool in there also

 

[handtools-from-germany]

That's a very nice deal, but shipping is a killer!

But it is DHL-Express Worldwide - for EU next day!

 

[ttpete]

US Army issue entrenching tool. Companion to the folding shovel.

 

[TjoFrasse]

US Army issue entrenching tool. Companion to the folding shovel.

So perhaps that the Danish Civil Defence has bought up WW2 surplus from the US army then? Considering the 1944 date stamp that sounds possible.

 

[Monte]

Funny that the chisel is east-block, hey man, they were the enemy then...after the wall was teared down, and the east-german archives opened, detailed invasion plans for Denmark were exposed. Well, so much for the cold war...

There was a lot of trade between the west and the east to get ahold of foreign currency. Either through direct trade or through a 3rd country. For example east germany sold cameras to west germany, car parts for VW and even blood from inmates. But also other countries were involved, Ikea for example bought furniture from there also build with forced labor from inmates.

Thanks. As you are very knowledgeable about German brands, do you know anything about the combination plier or the chisel?

I looked at the german trade mark office but nothing. Google has no more info either...

Cool scraper. So there is automotive use for a multitool also, not just carpentry

You can use the Multimaster for everything It´s the multitasking multitool ...even in the kitchen:

(DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik (correct me if I misspelled this, Monte))

everything ok

And isn´t that "L" a "Lada" logotype? (I know that Lada cars were made up north in Russia, but since it was all one big, central commitee, some Lada stuff could come from East Germany).

i hope the Lada chisel is better than their cars

Latest 2014 Fein Multimaster ?

How does it compare to the "traditional" one ?

The comparison shows that the new one is much better Virtually no vibration, less noise, more power. I´m convinced it´s the best multi tool currently on the market However the old Multimaster is now sold as "MultiTalent" for low €149.-
http://www.fein.fr/fr_fr/multimaster/fein-multimaster/




some more multimaster action:
sanding ? no problem:

cutting dowels ? neither a problem:

cutting plastic ? easier than cutting butter with a hot knife

 

[ttpete]

So perhaps that the Danish Civil Defence has bought up WW2 surplus from the US army then? Considering the 1944 date stamp that sounds possible.

There was so much materiel left over from WW2 that I'd imagine that the US just gave it to the Danish government. I know that they were given M1 Garands.

 

[node105]

Festool-ed cedar wall - the 25mm shiplapped rough sawn cedar cladding went up yesterday.

Nailed with a new borrowed Senco SFN30 Finish Nailer; high density plastic body, quite light.


Last plank require narrowing down by 40mm or so. Easy as, using two Festool Guide Rails joined together and TS 55 plunge saw. The first cut wasn't quite enough once the board was fitted up, so a second cut on the guide rail trimmed off another 3mm. The off-cut of the second cut can be seen, a consistent 1mm strip: Monty Python - 'a wafer for monsieur?'

 

[Monte]

some more Stahlwille 1/4dr. SAE sockets:

 

[dutch79]

Just got back from France for a couple of weeks holiday. I couldn't resist visiting a DIY-store there (Brico depot). Unfortunately there were few Facom items for sale, so I bought some VDE flat screwdrivers from Bost:



Then today I picked up some Beta VDE screwdrivers (Philips) to complete the set:


Also found the Knipex 250mm pliers wrench when arriving home:




...and some other items (Makita Japan)...


...and offcourse Hazet (705 V-02 and 1937K) :

 

[Brunel]

Just got back from France for a couple of weeks holiday. I couldn't resist visiting a DIY-store there (Brico depot). Unfortunately there were few Facom items for sale, so I bought some VDE flat screwdrivers from Bost:

The Bost screwdrivers are the same as Stanley Fatmax, also sold under the Britool label. I'm sure they're made in the Facom factory. All parts of the Stanley B&D empire. I'd love to know if the blades are the same as used in Facom drivers.

 

[BK13]

...and offcourse Hazet (705 V-02 and 1937K) :

I may need to track one of these down. Don't know what I need it for, I just know I need it. LOL

 

[dutch79]

I know where you can use it for: (un)locking the wheel nuts of your car wheels when changing wheels (at home or on a trip).
At home I use a battery powered hammer ratchet (is that the correct term?), but this one was quite cheap (little used item), so I had to have it for that moment I get a flat tyre on a trip. Got to change your wheels in style then

 

[BK13]

I normally have a cordless impact wrench in my truck, so I'm having a hard time coming up with a need for it... but I want it...

 

[Blöckw@rt]

A set of Heytec combination wrenches, nice quality at an affordable price.
Made in Czech Republic, I think so !?! (does anyone (Monte )know more?)

 

[upgrading]

NOS I think.
Made by Schroder.

 

[Monte]

(does Monte know more?)

nope















shop equipment part 16: water storage

 

[Geurt]

Needed to make some additions to my cutting tools and work on my Knipex collection:

 

[bahcoswed]

Geurt: Feed the cobolt animal with everything you want to cut! Serious power, I use my own sometimes just for fun in the yarden Cutting big nails,screws and whatever that fits in the mouth!

 

[node105]

I may need to track one of these down. Don't know what I need it for, I just know I need it. LOL

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Hazet/chassis-specialty_tools/wheels/Hazet_705V-02_Four-Way_Rim_Wrench_i3084_6957.htm

http://tools-from-germany.com/en/HAZET/Specialty-Tools/Chassis/HAZET-705V-02-Four-Way-Rim-Wrench


http://www.weltweitwerkzeug.net/Hazet%20Kreuzschluessel%20Radkreuzschluessel%20705V-02%20705%20V-02/a-1438/




Also Jens Putzier

 

[user.nr.1]

old school cool

 

[Monte]

Schroder ratcheting tool holder/tap wrench (M5-M12)




for taps...


for reamers...


...screw extractors...


...step drill bits...


...even 1/4" bits:
(at least the Schroder holders with patented "gripps" jaws which takes square and hex tools)