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billconner

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So buying a 1910 farm house fixed upper for my son. There is a truss like structure though not sure it's really a truss. That doesn't matter - whether the "top chord" is that or if the bottom chord is doing the work. This sits directly on top of a wall dividing two bedrooms on second floor, and a living room that is clear those two rooms. Looking close you should be able to see the tops of two large eye bolts through the "top chord", with 3/8" wire rope down through attic floor.

Next week I'll go back and do a little demo but my guess is this is supporting a beam in second floor/first floor ceiling. Another guess, there was a bearing wall under this on first floor, dividing what is now a long living room.

In my work in entertainment technology I've seen and designed a lot of things hanging on wires rope but don't think I've ever seen a second floor in a dwelling supported like this.
 

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So buying a 1910 farm house fixed upper for my son. There is a truss like structure though not sure it's really a truss. That doesn't matter - whether the "top chord" is that or if the bottom chord is doing the work. This sits directly on top of a wall dividing two bedrooms on second floor, and a living room that is clear those two rooms. Looking close you should be able to see the tops of two large eye bolts through the "top chord", with 3/8" wire rope down through attic floor.

Next week I'll go back and do a little demo but my guess is this is supporting a beam in second floor/first floor ceiling. Another guess, there was a bearing wall under this on first floor, dividing what is now a long living room.

In my work in entertainment technology I've seen and designed a lot of things hanging on wires rope but don't think I've ever seen a second floor in a dwelling supported like this.
Was there one of these hanging below it?

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Yes - that top "rail" is braced to rafters but it has the eyebolts with wire rope. I think they elevated it to make it simpler to rig.

We are wanting to remove it to repurpose attic.
More likely done to add strength because the truss has a taller cross section than the ceiling joist that it's attached to
 
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I've seen a variety of this type of "suspension" in older buildings including threaded rods.
I definitely would not remove it unless you like very springy floors.
There was no engineered lumber back then a the size of timbers & joists were limited to local resources and budgets.
 
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