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I'm trying to collect Pre WW2 Ridgids and I see the tell signs with PAT PEND'G, the pat number, then I come across the PAT'D mark.
See post #88 on page 5. Sorry. I had forgotten I had already addressed a wrench Don has with the "PAT'D" marking. I made those comments and then we never got back to the subject again. EDIT: Are there numbers on the dynamic jaw? If so, what are they?

Here are some of mine posted upthread.
I only remember addressing one of them, on page 5, post #88. Did the other two have any numbers on the dynamic jaws? If so, what are they? I'll have to add the wrenches with the "PAT'D" marking to my graphical timeline in post #1. But I want to make sure my logic is correct. We never talked about them after that as far as I can see.
 
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Thanks, Don. That didn't come up in my thread search on "PAT'D" because your initial post didn't include that term.

There are at least three known variations of prewar wrenches. The "PAT'D" wrenches make four. My initial purpose in this thread was to suss out the meaning of the forged in numbers, which we have established as date codes, but to do that, I needed a timeline, which necessitated sequencing the prewar, wartime, and postwar variants. Hence why this thread has turned into a fairly detailed total timeline for dating all RIDGID pipe wrenches. In that context, "early" is just too vague.

I'd like to amend post #1 to add these "PAT'D" wrenches, but the data is too fuzzy.

Follow my logic and chime in or argue with me. No ego here. Just trying to get this right.

Your first "PAT'D" wrench is a 1928. Chronologically, that marking cannot be a past tense reference to the second (9-9-1929) patent, which was not yet granted. It would have to be a past tense reference to the first (1925) patent. But, it's on a 2nd gen wrench (with the trapezoidal swash plate and the stabilizer). Those normally have the "PAT PEND'G" marking, referring to the second (1929) patent, until after it was granted, when they have the actual patent number, marked "PAT. 1727623". Unless your 1928 dynamic jaw was put into a static jaw and handle made after 9-9-1929, which is entirely possible, by the factory or by a PO.

Your second "PAT'D" wrench is a 1931, which is after the second (1929) patent. That one makes more sense, suggesting they went from "PAT PEND'G" (1-11-1928 to 9-9-1929) to "PAT'D" (after 9-9-1929) to "PAT. 1727623."

We need more examples before we know with certainty where the "PAT'D" fits exactly. Inarguably after 1st gen and almost certainly before 3rd gen w/patent number. But, it's still a little dicey in between.
 

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This is my 24" RIDGID wall art hanging in my garage to remind me of "more difficult" says.
 

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Here's one of my older wrenches. No makers markings on it. The jaw has code B29 and the handle has B14.
 

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I found a very nice example of an offset pipe wrench this morning at the flea market that perfectly illustrates the wartime dating "tells". The knurled adjusting nut, square end on dynamic jaw, 1937 patent, trademarked swash plate, and 12-3 - Dec 1943 - code forged in on the dynamic jaw (see Pic 4). (See post #1 for more details on all that.) So I thought I would bump my own thread. Even the static jaw, which has a replaceable jaw insert specified by Federal Specifications for any pipe wrench over 6" OAL, helps date it to wartime. See Pic 5. And it has a "1" stamped into the shoulder, like so many other wartime RIDGID pipe wrenches, although we're not sure of the significance of that other than forge or foundry mark. Also an extra "7" nearby, that I have never seen before. See Pic 6. The action is a little loose, because the internal stabilizer clip is missing, unfortunately. You can see the empty cavity inside the housing in Pic 7.
 

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no blood lol, probably just red writing on the bag!
the inside says A6-1 OIL HARDENED 6
there is also a 7 stamped on the reverse side, above the nut
 
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the inside says A6-1 OIL HARDENED 6
there is also a 7 stamped on the reverse side, above the nut
Made in June 1941. That last 6 is the OAL of the wrench. Nobody knows what those numbers stamped on the housing are. A lot of the wartime wrenches seems to have the "7". I just posted a 1943 offset (just above your post) and it has a "1" and a "7" stamped there.
 

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I hope this can help as I haven't seen any of these models shown in the thread. Going through everything, I believe this could be a model from around 1927 as it has the Pat. Pend'g with no swash plate.

Let me know what you guys think.
 

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I think you're absolutely spot-on correct. An example of the earliest model they made. Nice find!

Do you know which years they included the flat ridge on top of the stabilizer? The only other one I noticed it on was the offset one you recently posted. My initial thought was just the first few years had this included, but now I am confused.

I may possibly put the above wrench up for sale as thinning out my collections have turned into getting rid of most as I have a baby incoming in less than 2 months and need to clear space and get diaper money haha.
 
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I've never noticed a ridge as a design feature. I think what you are referring to may just be a manufacturing artifact, either something in a die or something that doesn't always get finished precisely the same way.

There are classifieds just below this forum.
 

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I've never noticed a ridge as a design feature. I think what you are referring to may just be a manufacturing artifact, either something in a die or something that doesn't always get finished precisely the same way.

There are classifieds just below this forum.
I was referring to the "ridge" or "flat spot" with the extra bump out on the stabilizer by the knurled thumb screw. Most I've seen are rounded all the way around
 

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A couple weeks prior to the 10, I bought a black six incher. B 4 2 and B 6 2. I thought it was pretty cool.
 

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Nice wartime pair. The WW2 Federal Stock Number for the 10” wrench is 41-W-1662, for the 6” wrench it’s
41-W-1660. Check out the Ridgid pipe wrenches in the middle of this 1942 picture.
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Just picked up this 14" pipe wrench. The only marking on the handle is the number 14, the other side has nothing. So, is the handle a Ridgid?000_0299.JPG000_0300.JPG000_0301.JPG000_0298.JPG
 
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Just picked up this 14" pipe wrench. The only marking on the handle is the number 14, the other side has nothing. So, is the handle a Ridgid?
Nope. Looks like an Erie to me. Missing the replaceable static jaw insert, as you've probably noticed. The Ridge dynamic jaw is from 1945. How's the fit? Loosey goosey?
 
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Yeah, I've actually played around with cross-brand interchangeability, just out of idle curiosity, and I recall that being less than tight. As you know, precision isn't necessarily always required, so you can get away with a kluge in some cases.
 

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I have an older one. I have 4 pics to post
 

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Hi. Here is a couple of pictures of the moveable jaw. The one side does have a code.
 

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I agree with the 1933 date of manufacture. But didn’t they start making them in Elyria in the 50’s?
 

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As far as I know they were always made in Elyria and I don't recall ever seeing another place-name forged-in to the shanks.
Ok. Probably my mistake. I had seen the picture on page 1. It had all the model years as being N. Ridgville and Elyria being with the 1954 model.
 
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Ok. Probably my mistake. I had seen the picture on page 1. It had all the model years as being N. Ridgville and Elyria being with the 1954 model.
Ahh, I should probably go back and clarify that. Probably best to just take the location off completely since it's kind of confusing. So confusing that Ridge's own website contradicts itself, and doesn't jibe with Wiki or my research. Believe it or not, this is not at all unusual and happens more than you might think.

The Ridge Tool Co. history timeline says it was founded in Elyria in 1923, but the same timeline also says they moved to Elyria in 1943! Not possible.

Wiki says they were founded in N. Ridgeville in 1923 and relocated to Elyria in 1943.

What I have in my fuzzy notes differs from the Ridge website and Wiki. My research seems to show that in 1923 they had an "office" (it may have just been a business address) in N. Ridgeville but the factory was always in Elyria and they merged them in Elyria in 1943. But I will double-check that. It's been several years since I deep dived this.

The only reason I went into that at all with you is it helps explain the patents composite figure that I made and posted on page 1. The official address of the patent holder (William Thewes) and the assignee (Ridge Tool Co.) for every patent up to and including 1940 was North Ridgeville, Ohio. For the 1954 patent it was Elyria, Ohio for the first time and thereafter.

The most salient point, however, is that I'm not aware of N. Ridgeville ever appearing on the wrenches.
 

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Ahh, I should probably go back and clarify that. Probably best to just take the location off completely since it's kind of confusing. So confusing that Ridge's own website contradicts itself, and doesn't jibe with Wiki or my research. Believe it or not, this is not at all unusual and happens more than you might think.

The Ridge Tool Co. history timeline says it was founded in Elyria in 1923, but the same timeline also says they moved to Elyria in 1943! Not possible.

Wiki says they were founded in N. Ridgeville in 1923 and relocated to Elyria in 1943.

What I have in my fuzzy notes differs from the Ridge website and Wiki. My research seems to show that in 1923 they had an "office" (it may have just been a business address) in N. Ridgeville but the factory was always in Elyria and they merged them in Elyria in 1943. But I will double-check that. It's been several years since I deep dived this.

The only reason I went into that at all with you is it helps explain the patents composite figure that I made and posted on page 1. The official address of the patent holder (William Thewes) and the assignee (Ridge Tool Co.) for every patent up to and including 1940 was North Ridgeville, Ohio. For the 1954 patent it was Elyria, Ohio for the first time and thereafter.

The most salient point, however, is that I'm not aware of N. Ridgeville ever appearing on the wrenches.
Ok. Sounds good to me. Thanks Lug, you have been a good help.
 

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I got fairly excited yesterday when I found this 24" Rigid wrench at the flea, and started ticking off its characteristics:
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- square bottom of the dynamic
- fully knurled adjuster ring
- 1.7M patent
- $10 price tag
- E20-1 date code (see last pic).

Until I started messing with it, and found the dynamic was pretty floppy. A little texting with Don and I took the dynamic out, to reveal the absent clip inside the throat, which explained why it was so "less than tight" as Lugz described above. So, hard pass. Then saw that the top front of the dynamic was chipped, and was glad to save my $10, and put that towards a burrito.

The real purpose of this post is to thank Don for the assistance on not buying a hunk 'o junk, and to get that E20-1 recorded, in case anyone is trying to make sense of the first digits in the code. I appreciate it, Don!

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