Vise Info Thread

[ranger08]

Joplin 5 inch fabricated all steel 1/4 inch plate chromed slide
jaw 5” open 7”
weight 26 lbs
made australia 1966 to late 1970s

 

[ranger08]

Stabil 60 DBGM
germany late 1930s to 1950s cast iron
jaw 2.5” open 2 ” weight 11 lbs

 

[ranger08]

Parkinson handy very early 2.1/4” open 2”
weight 9lb all brass construction England for use in munitions or gas’s works

 

[KMScott]

Thanks Ranger for these beauties, looks like the Bronze vise has steel jaws. Those will spark.

 

[ranger08]

Thanks Ranger for these beauties, looks like the Bronze vise has steel jaws. Those will spark.

yes jaw plates are not original, will make some brass jaws when i can find the stock
i have several others, will post in a few days

 

[tool_scrounge]

I was surprised to not see this in the spreadsheet

name: Speedy Vise
jaw width: 4”
max opening: 6.5”
weight: 7 lbs

has a swivel base

Unique design optimized for low cost. Both jaws move. The left jaw moves in ~3/4” increments. The right jaw has a short leadscrew to clamp the part. Together you get 6.5” of travel.

 

[mikeinri]

Wow, just found this thread, very overwhelmed by all the info and history here!

Mike

 

[FMC1959]

yes jaw plates are not original, will make some brass jaws when i can find the stock
i have several others, will post in a few days

Beauties, like Kevin said and quite a diverse collection. It does not say under your name/avatar, may I ask where you are located...USA, Europe, Australia...etc.

I love the classic US vises like Parker, Reed, Athol and many other brands. But when I see models like your Joplin, Stabil (fabulous and beautiful condition), the brass Parkinson, and then the unpronounceable German vise...just WOW!

 

[ranger08]

Beauties, like Kevin said and quite a diverse collection. It does not say under your name/avatar, may I ask where you are located...USA, Europe, Australia...etc.

I love the classic US vises like Parker, Reed, Athol and many other brands. But when I see models like your Joplin, Stabil (fabulous and beautiful condition), the brass Parkinson, and then the unpronounceable German vise...just WOW!

im in New Zealand, our old tools here were generally imported from england and australia in past, and an eclectic range from europe, very little early trade with the US, although i do have many US vises however they are well covered in these forums.

 

[Outlawmws]

Possibly one for the Spreadsheet? I could not find it.

Speedmaster, 2" aluminum Clamp on made in Oakland CA. Slightly offset jaws on some models (I've seen others like this), Clamp prone to breaking, so is the D jaw:
Under 2 lbs, maybe 1-3/4?

 

[ranger08]

this one is not on the list
Carter "5inch semi steel" made in australia
jaw opens to 6.5 inch, ductile iron, very very heavy duty no voids or hollows in castings, 70 lbs

 

[ranger08]

and a
Peddinghaus Matador Jr made in west germany
115cm 4.5 " jaws opens to 150mm 5.9" weighs 22lbs
drop forged steel adjustable slide movement to take up any wear, DBP Auslands patent

 

[ranger08]

My pride and joy
an 1882 Gustav Boley made in Swabia SW Germany just 9 years before he died and according to other sources 22 years before Leinen became part of the company
weighs 6lbs, 44mm 1.75" jaw opens to 44mm also

 

[davethorik]

Massey Vise Co. Chicago no. 133
4.5" jaws, opens 6", weight 74 lbs.

 

[ranger08]

Very early circa 1880
parkinson handy 5 inch opens 6 inch weight 70lbs
note 5 holes to secure to bench
made Bradford England

 

[mikeinri]

Wow! Any lettering / branding on the last two, @ranger08?

Mike

 

[ranger08]

Wow! Any lettering / branding on the last two, @ranger08?

Mike

The Parkinson never had branding at that date however either had a “0” or a “1” stamped internally, this one had a “0”, apparently later when other companies were copying this design then patents were included in the castings by Parkinson

the boley has date and casting numbers and production number

 

[KMScott]

Reed 105-1/2. 5-1/2" jaws that opens to 9" and weights 114 lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Athol #79 with a E.M. EK Swivel base. Years ago I had a Athol 79 missing it's swivel base. Instead I built my own swivel base to make the vise whole again. Now the mystery is found with this Athol 79 mounted to a E.M.EK Patented swivel base.

3" jaws that opens to 3-1/4".

 

[ranger08]

Stabil 60 DBGM
germany late 1930s to 1950s cast iron
jaw 2.5” open 2 ” weight 11 lbs

Just found out through a fairly reliable source that dbgm was a type of patent that stopped use after 1945
also Stabil was a company that made metal toys and mechano type toys prior to ww2, they were then made to make medals and the like for the axis forces.

 

[antman213]

I have the opportunity to get a Hollands No 60 (6" Swivel base vise).
But i'm having a hard time finding much info on general info on Hollands.
In particular, when did they stop making vises (or get bought by Yost) and what is the difference between a No. 60 & a No.26H. I'm they seem to be very similar but is one just a newer model of the other?

Also, why are the swivel hold downs so short, not very many pictures available of one deconstructed to show the swivel base.

Any info would be much appreciated

 

[akasrick]

I have the opportunity to get a Hollands No 60 (6" Swivel base vise).
But i'm having a hard time finding much info on general info on Hollands.
In particular, when did they stop making vises (or get bought by Yost) and what is the difference between a No. 60 & a No.26H. I'm they seem to be very similar but is one just a newer model of the other?

Also, why are the swivel hold downs so short, not very many pictures available of one deconstructed to show the swivel base.

Any info would be much appreciated

Regarding the swivel hold downs; I think they are stubby just so's they don't interfere with reading the side. How large are the swivels balls, will they interfere with tightening the vise down?

akasrick

 

[KMScott]

Antman, pic’s would help since the model 60 on the Spreadsheet looks to have been modified. The 26H has cast in jaws and if the 60 has replaceable jaws I would say the model 60 is newer. I have restored a 27H and really liked the swivel base movement and how well it locked down but did question like you the height of the lockdown body and handle. Share some pic:s and maybe I can replace the pic:s on the Spreadsheet with your vise, oh you should already have the vise by now right.

 

[akasrick]

Kevin: The H22 1/2 on the spreadsheet, mine, is a good candidate for replacing with a correct vise. My quandary when getting the replacement lockdown machined was getting it close to original or obviously incorrect.
It's a handsome vise.

akasrick

Altman, pic’s would help since the model 60 on the Spreadsheet looks to have been modified. The 26H has cast in jaws and if the 60 has replaceable jaws I would say the model 60 is newer. I have restored a 27H and really liked the swivel base movement and how well it locked down but did question like you the height of the lockdown body and handle. Share some pic:s and maybe I can replace the pic:s on the Spreadsheet with your vise, oh you should already have the vise by now right.

akasrick

 

[skmbabon]

1939 ad for Fray-Mershon "Defiance" line of vises. No mention of the publication name.
These 2 models, with stationary and swivel versions, are not in the spreadsheet.

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Only Fray-Mershon (F-M) vise listed so far is 4M All Angle vise (Versa-Vise type) https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/vise-info-thread.355753/post-6822187.
More pictures of 4M at https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/weird-vise.375070/.
F-M thread w/link to patent for 4M at https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/fray-mershon-vise.166868/.

There is also a #2 (presumably a 2M) and 3M which could be added to the spreadsheet.
An "All Angle vise #2" from Fray-Mershon in Glendale is mentioned in this thread: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/versa-vise.216044/.
There's a F-M 3M All Angle vise on Worthpoint: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-fray-mershon-3m-all-angle-423856568.

@PghJKB shows the JR Long "Permutation vise" patent that the F-M All Angle vises are based on, and mentions he's researching the history of the type, at https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-vises-of-garage-journal.44782/page-2110.

 

[Ironblock]

Parker Union 973-B 3" wide jaws

973-1/2 B Parker vise. Weights in at 41 lbs, max opening is 6-1/2" the jaws are 3-1/2 inches wide.

Nice job on this. I really like that paint!

 

[four.cycle]

No mention of the publication name.

"Hardware Age", perhaps?

 

[skmbabon]

"Hardware Age", perhaps?

Thanks. It's possible. Closest issue I found was July 1940. Page layout looks the same.

 

[skmbabon]

Perfect No1, claims to be made in Japan. 3-1/2" jaws, no other specs. Not in spreadsheet.
Dynamic rear and an interesting slide shape.

 

[skmbabon]

Trojan 726 pic for spreadsheet entry

 

[Fierljeppen]

Thanks. It's possible. Closest issue I found was July 1940. Page layout looks the same.

1939_07-13_hardware_age_v.144_iss.01_pg.071

 

[KMScott]

Fray Mershon Inc 3M. No spec:s yet.

 

[Outlawmws]

That Frey has some similarities to a Versa vise, only heavy duty.

Does the swivel lock on tightening?

 

[KMScott]

Thanks skmbabon for your help on the spreadsheet.

 

[KMScott]

Does the swivel lock on tightening?

Been studing skm's post links and have not seen enough info to answer your question. Surly it tightens somehow.

 

[craftsman creep]

Anybody know what this is there is no branding on it

 

[Fierljeppen]

Fray Mershon Inc 3M. No spec:s yet.

Fray Mershon no. 3M "all-angle" vise, photos and specs from eBay.

jaw width........3-1/2"
jaw opening...5"
weight.............22 lbs.



Another "John R. Long" patent vise from one of the most prolific vise designers ever.

 

[mikeinri]

That's a very interesting design. What does it do?

Mike

 

[akasrick]

Anybody know what this is there is no branding on it

Possibly a Jersey vise with the clamping section cut off.
If you have access to it there may be markings on the spindel's nose.

akasrick

 

[CRSINMICH]

Victor Jersey seems to be a strong possibility. This is from a 1917 catalog.