Light Fixture Layout Collections

[Kristang]

Awesome...Thank you sir!

 

[Kristang]

Platonic Solid, forgive me if I am missing something in my information inputs in the tool but it is showing I only need 2 of those fixtures to light my building?

 

[Kristang]

I'm good, I figured it out. I was over complicating, LOL

 

[Platonic Solid]

It should show that you need 9 fixtures - once you input size and footcandle info.

 

[Hager Motorsports]

No sure if your still doing layouts or if there's a cost??
I didn't see anything like i have
40' x 40' 14' walls, Drywalled, scissor trusses with a 3/12 pitch inside
If you can help let me know what it costs

 

[adrenalinejeeper]

Can somebody please help me out with a lighting layout? I think I will over-do it and spend too much money on too many lights if I just wing it. Three car garage that will primarily be for parking and the occasional car detail(probably once a month).

We are framing right now, rough electric will be soon. Garage is 29' deep, 33'2" wide, flat ceiling at about 11' (I am not home to measure right now, it changed a little after the plans and I can't recall exactly how much). It will be fully drywalled, walls and ceiling.

I like these lights, we have them in our barn, unless somebody has other low profile surface mount LED's they recommend that are better.

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Thank you for any guidance!

 

[Fisherguy]

Can somebody please help me out with a lighting layout? I think I will over-do it and spend too much money on too many lights if I just wing it. Three car garage that will primarily be for parking and the occasional car detail(probably once a month).

We are framing right now, rough electric will be soon. Garage is 29' deep, 33'2" wide, flat ceiling at about 11' (I am not home to measure right now, it changed a little after the plans and I can't recall exactly how much). It will be fully drywalled, walls and ceiling.

I like

Thank you for any guidance!

Try playing with this online design tool:
http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/interior/default.aspx?id=14782

 

[adrenalinejeeper]

Try playing with this online design tool:
http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/interior/default.aspx?id=14782

Thank you! I actually installed DIALux Evo a while ago and drew our entire house in it and added lighting. While it is cool and I got some fun renderings, I just have no idea what I am doing in regards to which light product to pick, brightness, etc. In DIALux Evo they seem to be all either 1)really expensive lighting products, or 2)Not available in US.

I will play with the online tool you recommended.

 

[Fisherguy]

I spent a couple days clicking around this site and using that tool and some help from the members here came up with the high bay fixtures I used in my 25x40 shop, very happy with the results.

I know a lotta people tend to just ask for advice but if you spend some time looking for it there's a ton of good info on here.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Three car garage that will primarily be for parking and the occasional car detail(probably once a month). ... Garage is 29' deep, 33'2" wide, flat ceiling at about 11'... fully dry walled.

That pretty much coveres the whole spectrum of lighting from parking where very little light is required to see where you're going, to detailing which requires excellent lighting. At 11' fixture mounting height, look for fixtures around 8000 lumens. 3-Lamp LED strip lights are a viable option. Idealy you want fixtures around the perimeter of the vehicle(s) to eliminate shadows. You don't have to use the fixtures that are linked in Dialux (I never do). If you want to play with the Hyperikon fixture (whose light output is really too low for 11' mounting and detailing cars), contact Hyperikon and ask for an IES file. Alternately, find a similar output/style fixture IES file (there are quite a few in the visual tool under Lithonia).

 

[adrenalinejeeper]

That pretty much coveres the whole spectrum of lighting from parking where very little light is required to see where you're going, to detailing which requires excellent lighting. At 11' fixture mounting height, look for fixtures around 8000 lumens. 3-Lamp LED strip lights are a viable option. Idealy you want fixtures around the perimeter of the vehicle(s) to eliminate shadows. You don't have to use the fixtures that are linked in Dialux (I never do). If you want to play with the Hyperikon fixture (whose light output is really too low for 11' mounting and detailing cars), contact Hyperikon and ask for an IES file. Alternately, find a similar output/style fixture IES file (there are quite a few in the visual tool under Lithonia).

Thank you! I will look for 8000 lumen fixtures and go from there.

 

[sbelles]

I'm still reading through this thread and there's lots of good info but are there any tools out there that will take slanted ceilings into account?

 

[Platonic Solid]

sbelles - Dialux Evo

 

[sbelles]

sbelles - Dialux Evo

Cool, thanks! I'll start playing with it tonight.

 

[adrenalinejeeper]

I got a layout and product recommendation from PRO Lighting, very quick response time. They suggested the following layout with 12 TechBrite 48" 2 Lamp LED T8 Strip Fixture - 5000K - 5,210 Lumens giving the space an illuminanec of 51 fc.

Does this seem appropriate? I am considering asking if adding a few more fixtures or using a different tube can bring that up some, and possibly go down in color temperature while I'm at it.

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[Fisherguy]

I got Pro Lighting to do a couple quotes for me, they were both pretty pricey compared to what I ended up using. 51 fc, that's not very bright.

Have you tried playing with the online tool I posted above?

 

[ed3300]

Looking for input on lighting layout for 52 x 25 x 12' garage(drawing attached). New construction. Any help would be appreciated. THANKS!

 

[adrenalinejeeper]

I got Pro Lighting to do a couple quotes for me, they were both pretty pricey compared to what I ended up using. 51 fc, that's not very bright.

Have you tried playing with the online tool I posted above?

I have, but everything I pick from Beeslighting and find in the inline tool give me a suggested fixture number that adds up to at least 3x the cost of PRO Lighting's layout.

I need to go back a few (39) pages to find some economic fixture recommendations.

 

[rotortuner]

Platonic,

Is there a cheaper LED equivalent to the two referenced in this post? I saw a page back a link to some green light fixtures that seamed more economical. About to pull the trigger of 3500 worth of lights and just want to make sure these are still the best option.

To make sure you have all the options, here is my preference: LED layout using the Diva Light 2ft 13,700 Lumen and 19,300 Lumen fixtures (linked). Any similar output LED fixture with a medium (spherical) distribution will work. Initial cost is a little higher, but you’ll easily make that up over time as it cuts your lighting electric bill in half and you won’t be waiting 5-10 minutes for them to warm up to full brightness like the F54T5HO fixtures. Same mounting heights as Post #382. Fewer fixtures in lean-to areas.

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[Platonic Solid]

rotortuner - That post was 2 years ago. I don't have time for the research. Look through these distributors:
www.Prolighting.com
www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com
www.greenlightdepot.com
www.lightup.com

 

[shopoholic]

shopoholic - That layout is dated (2015). See the layout and fixtures used by Kram02 (link)

Thank you sir, I believe I will go with this setup then.

looks like (12) https://greenlightdepot.com/collect...0w-with-lens-and-w-o-lens?variant=36041819012

I recently confirmed however that the side walls are 11-12' so im not sure if the two outside rows of 4 will make the lights too close to the ground? suggested mounting heights are 15-25'

the outside rows should sit about 12' from the ground and the center row should be about 14'. Any opinions?

 

[Fisherguy]

Thank you sir, I believe I will go with this setup then.

looks like (12) https://greenlightdepot.com/collect...0w-with-lens-and-w-o-lens?variant=36041819012

I recently confirmed however that the side walls are 11-12' so im not sure if the two outside rows of 4 will make the lights too close to the ground? suggested mounting heights are 15-25'

the outside rows should sit about 12' from the ground and the center row should be about 14'. Any opinions?

I used 8 of those lights in my 25x40 shop with 12'9" ceilings and I'm pretty happy with them.
Yours is a bit bigger than mine, I'd make sure you hook up the dimmers to tone things down if you need to.

 

[shopoholic]

do you dim yours often?

I thought about two rows but then the lights would be right over the truck and or boat and I didn't want that to affect light output.

 

[Fisherguy]

I wish I could've done 3 rows but my gas tube heater is in the middle.
I've dimmed mine a few times when I'm just working at my bench, I have 4 - 4ft LED fixtures under the mezzanine overtop the work bench.

 

[nastorino]

Great thread! Found a layout that Plantonic Solid did that was very similar to my new garage. Used 24 7000 lumen Lithonia LED fixtures. Waiting for new insulated doors with high track so I can move my lifts.

Marsh, are you worried at all about the shadows that will be create due to the lights being ceiling mounted when the doors are up (open)?

I've got a dilemma about whether or not I should use unistrut to drop my fixtures down 18" so they are parallel with the garage door tracks to prevent casting shadows when the doors are up (open).

 

[shopoholic]

kind of off topic but at that angle it almost looks like that trailer isn't going to come out of there without letting the air out of the tires ha

 

[marsh1]

Marsh, are you worried at all about the shadows that will be create due to the lights being ceiling mounted when the doors are up (open)?

I've got a dilemma about whether or not I should use unistrut to drop my fixtures down 18" so they are parallel with the garage door tracks to prevent casting shadows when the doors are up (open).

No. I put in a window AC so I am not working with the doors up. Also I have now installed raised tracks so less likely to cause shadows. I will take a look with them up and post feedback

 

[marsh1]

Marsh, are you worried at all about the shadows that will be create due to the lights being ceiling mounted when the doors are up (open)?

I've got a dilemma about whether or not I should use unistrut to drop my fixtures down 18" so they are parallel with the garage door tracks to prevent casting shadows when the doors are up (open).

The new tracks put the doors 14" from the ceiling and no shadows with doors open.

 

[garagelogician]

I have a ~27' wide x 19' deep 3 car that I will be installing 12 of the 4-ft (Platonic Solid recommended) fixtures and bulbs in. It will be 4 rows of 3 fixtures. Per the Visual Photometric tool, that should give me about 92 FC at 30" workplane.

I'm trying to optimize position of the lights with the garage door tracks and future lift location. Is it advisable to place two rows 18" from the side walls? These walls are mostly empty and will likely stay that way.

 

[Platonic Solid]

garagelogician - 27' is a really narrow 3 car with a 2 car typically being 24'. Image is too small to read numbers. If you want light between the wall and the car you likely have no choice but to put the fixtures close to the walls. It's one of those things that can make a garage different than other use spaces (WRT Lighting placement).

Plugging your info into Dialux and guessing at the ceiling height: 27' x 19' x 10', using 70|50|20 for Ceiling|Wall|Floor reflectance I used 4 rows of 4 2-Lamp strip lights (5200 Lm/fixture) to get 95fc @ 30" workplane (placing 4 fixtures end to end, 18" from walls, 8' between rows).

 

[garagelogician]

garagelogician - 27' is a really narrow 3 car with a 2 car typically being 24'. Image is too small to read numbers. If you want light between the wall and the car you likely have no choice but to put the fixtures close to the walls. It's one of those things that can make a garage different than other use spaces (WRT Lighting placement).

Plugging your info into Dialux and guessing at the ceiling height: 27' x 19' x 10', using 70|50|20 for Ceiling|Wall|Floor reflectance I used 4 rows of 4 2-Lamp strip lights (5200 Lm/fixture) to get 95fc @ 30" workplane (placing 4 fixtures end to end, 18" from walls, 8' between rows).

It is definitely a tight 3 car for sure. We have to back in car #1 tight against the left wall and drive in car #3 (spare vehicle) tight against the right wall so that we can have normal (comfortable) distances between those cars and the middle bay. Its not ideal, but it is what I have. Luckily we have a shed out back for other storage and for hobby type projects. I only keep my automotive tools, detailing supplies and a mobile workbench (coming soon) out there. Everything has to be mobile so that I can shift things around and move cars out while doing maintenance/repairs/detailing. Maybe someday I'll have a big shop...but I'm going to make the best of this one while I'm here.

These fixtures are cheap enough that I don't have a problem with going to 16 fixtures. I had considered going with flush mount flat panels, but I just can't justify that cost premium, plus I would rather replace a bulb than an entire panel if one fails.

The ceiling height is actually 10'-5". See attached PDF for more readable layout with dimensions. I'm going to get my garage door tracks raised up and the lift installed before actually doing the lights, so I will see how much real-world headroom I need once I get my vehicles on the lift and see how high I can lift them and where the lock positions end up.

 

[Platonic Solid]

garagelogician - Wow that's tight! That's about as good as you can get it in that space. Any closer to the walls and the reflected glare on the walls will become uncomfortable.

 

[bonehead04]

Would appreciate your input on the following space.

3 bay garage, 1111 square feet (not including a small storage area which I do not need illuminated). Dimensions will be 13' flat ceilings, 41' wide, 25' from door to back wall in the first bay and 21' in the remaining two.

No windows, per se, but the 3 front 10x10 and rear 8x9 doors will be opaque glass so there will be some natural light. Walls will be a semi-gloss white and the floor will likely be a light gray.

The left most and possible the center bay will have a four-post car lift. Footprint of each lift will be 110.25" width, 200" length, 88" tall (without a car on top).

Based on a recommendation of an acquaintance, I'm tentatively aiming for an average of 100-140 footcandles at maximum intensity for the entire space with dimming capability to adjust the brightness. Basically, I would like the space to be bright, but not blinding.

Thanks!

 

[Platonic Solid]

bonehead04 - Consider changing paint sheen to eggshell for better diffused light reflectance.
I like the JEBL fixture (link)(though the prices keeps going up)
Read this (link to Visual Photometric tool instructions)
Here's the JEBL preloaded: http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/PhotometricViewer/default.aspx?id=252198
Hang fixtures as close to ceiling as possible. Place fixtures between vehicles and walls. 3ft from walls works. Reflected glare might be annoying at less than 3ft. (more annoying if you use semi-gloss paint).
If you have time to play, then play with Dialux Evo (link).

 

[GRivera]

I've searched much of this thread and my head is spinning. Looking for a plan to light up my 30x40x12' with scissor trusses (ceiling is 2/12 pitch). It will get white metal ceiling and OSB walls - unpainted. I assume I overlooked a plan that fits my needs. Can anyone point me in that direction?

 

[Platonic Solid]

GRivera - I put 30x40x12 in search and come up with more options than I know what to do with, including the post below:

30x46x12 (19.5' peak)

Pics of 30x46x12 (19.5' peak)

40x56x14

30x40x14

30x40x12

A couple links in this thread too.

 

[Fisherguy]

That's gotta be frustrating, people should at least make the effort to do a search...

 

[bored350]

Platonic, I'd appreciate your input if you have the time. I currently have a 20' deep by 21' 6" wide garage, 9' ceilings, painted semi gloss white. There is a single garage door that is 16' wide with no windows. Currently there are (2) frosted round single A19 bulb fixtures (with 1200 Lumen 4k LEDs in them) placed 5' x 5' from the walls opposite the garage door.

I have been given for free (4) 8' long fixtures which hold (4) T8 bulbs each as well as (16) T8 1600 Lumen 4000K bulbs to use with the fixtures. The bulbs are Utilitech from Lowes.

There is no budget to buy different lighting at this time so I have to work with what I have listed as all that is available. I can move or mount the lights anywhere necessary. I typically work with the door closed 80% of the time. 1/2 of the garage is general work space with an 8' workbench along the wall that has a 4' light about 3' above it and various equipment (compressor, welder, blast cabinet drill press tool boxes etc. The other half typically has a parked car or one can be pulled in for repairs. I'm not sure if I have provided enough information but am happy to answer any questions. Can you suggest the best layout for the space and lighting I have available to work with?

 

[Fisherguy]

Bored, have you tried this?

http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/interior/default.aspx?id=14782

 

[bored350]

Bored, have you tried this?

http://www.visual-3d.com/tools/interior/default.aspx?id=14782

No, I wasn't aware of that tool. I'll plug in my info over the weekend and hopefully get that project crossed off my list. Thanks!