The Original "Cordless" Drills

[Old tool guy]

Ok. Then back to the first pic, what is the tool to the tight of the Derlon?

 

[WisJim]

Goodell-Pratt No 215 "Universal Corner Brace". https://www.oldtoolheaven.com/related/goodell-pratt-braces.htm

 

[MisterEd]

A Simple Tool with No Name.

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

A Simple Tool with No Name.

I doubt that would hold up to drilling tap holes for maple sugar trees. I ***** out a lot of hand drills with chucks. Than again that may hold up pretty well. Looks tough.

 

[Old tool guy]

That looks like a basic brace from the original Ace Hardware or whatever. Entry level. Looks to be in good condition.

 

[RTM]

Really early, the thumbscrew chuck is a sign

 

[nadogail]

I doubt that would hold up to drilling tap holes for maple sugar trees. I ***** out a lot of hand drills with chucks. Than again that may hold up pretty well. Looks tough.

Do you mean "wore" out?

 

[Old tool guy]

This is cool, and a little funny. My granddaughter is in college at Texas Tech in Lubbock, and she’s not your normal college girl. I made up a pegboard with a variety of about 8 wired in place of my cordless drills, all labelled, and she was going to enter it into the county fair. Typical teen (even though she’s 21) we don’t get much communication out of her. Today she sent this picture, with no explanation.

Apparently she has to take the tools off the board and enter them individually. The blue circled one is a MF breast drill with a 1sr Place blue ribbon. Look close, the crank handle is on backwards. I did that so it wouldn’t stick out too far in transit, told her to turn it around when she submitted the display.

The red circled drill is a MF corner brace, and it has a “best of show” ribbon. And a 1st place ribbon. Hopefully one day she will find her cell phone (that's on my family plan) and call with more info. I think i recognize a couple more of mine on the shelves.

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

Do you mean "wore" out?

Yea. Thanks for the correction. Not proof reading. My bad.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Meh

 

[MisterEd]

Today she sent this picture, with no explanation.

One picture says it all . . . she's a Winner!

 

[Old tool guy]

Meh

What?

 

[TheRealZeus]

“he prefers it (his) way.”

 

[TheRealZeus]

It’s a movie joke.. after several, several years in here… I’m starting to notice most of you guys don’t get out much… so no worries.

 

[svhamelly]

Well I knew what to expect, but something in my mind was hoping it was going to be about a gasoline engine powered cordless drill.

The reason I was hoping to see that is back when I was a kid our neighbor came home with a "cordless" reciprocating saw... it was like a big chainsaw engine with a 20 inch reciprocating blade... almost too heavy to be of any use... I recall everyone laughing about it and then laughing harder when he tried to demonstrate it and it was a real POS functionally

 

[TheRealZeus]

Gas ️… no, Boss.
They are all beautiful, though.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Turned the light on. back on topic.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Stanley 2101-A, Bell Systems labeled. I call her “The Torqinator.”

 

[TheRealZeus]

Well I knew what to expect, but something in my mind was hoping it was going to be about a gasoline engine powered cordless drill.

The reason I was hoping to see that is back when I was a kid our neighbor came home with a "cordless" reciprocating saw... it was like a big chainsaw engine with a 20 inch reciprocating blade... almost too heavy to be of any use... I recall everyone laughing about it and then laughing harder when he tried to demonstrate it and it was a real POS functionally

 

[WisJim]

Here's another picture that I just got from a friend, of my display last weekend, including my wife in the back. This shows some of the variety a bit better.

 

[Old tool guy]

How does a chain drill work? I know one end chucks in the hand brace, the bit chucks in the other end, and the chain wraps around the item to be drilled. What then? As you turn the crank, does the chain automatically tighten to pull the bit into the wood?

 

[TheRealZeus]

The chain slings around the pipe, hooks it up so that you have positive pressure with the bit inward towards the pipe, inside the loop.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Demonstrated credits included;

 

[TheRealZeus]

Tapping with a center punch is pretty crucial for the device in order to keep her turning centered, and not slipping/walking.. as he demonstrated.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Them old steam fitters vises make more sense, in applicable tandem with that chain juggling tool.

 

[RTM]

As you turn the crank, does the chain automatically tighten to pull the bit into the wood?

Yup, a cool piece of gizmocity. I think the advance is slow for metal, not fast for wood. @WisJim will know for certain.

 

[TheRealZeus]

How does a chain drill work? I know one end chucks in the hand brace, the bit chucks in the other end, and the chain wraps around the item to be drilled. What then? As you turn the crank, does the chain automatically tighten to pull the bit into the wood?

Yes/no. Goodell/Pratt eventually had “Automatic Feed Chain Drive”, is a drill that adjusted tension as you drilled your hole The manual ones are manually adjusted on the knob, as he is doing with the perpendicular wheel in the video.. manual tension adjustment(s), several.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Yup, a cool piece of gizmocity. I think the advance is slow for metal, not fast for wood. @WisJim will know for certain.

Man, one I once used may have been ghetto. Had to crank the wheel to keep bit pressure.
Here is more on the feature description.

 

[RTM]

They are fun to use, just keep drilling, and it keeps feeding.

 

[Orangina]

Hello everyone,

some Hazet 2135 models as part of tool cabinets from my HAZET collection.
Made by Arnz FLOTT GmbH Werkzeugmaschinen, Remscheid, Germany, founded 1854, still making drilling machines.
To change the speed swap the handles to the other side.

From left to right: from 1950-1965, from 1969-1976, from 1979-1988 (became lighter and smaller)

regards,

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I took a few items from my drilling tools collection to the "Collectors' Day" that our local museum had this Saturday

Great display, Jim. That looks like a lot of fun. Good mix of things, including books, and vertical and horizontal surfaces. Like a mini museum. Did you screw the pegboard to the back of the table? Edit: What is the button, top right, near your "HAND TOOLS" sign?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...some Hazet 2135 models as part of tool cabinets from my HAZET collection.

Always cool to see corollaries from Europe. Those are cleeeeean!

 

[Old tool guy]

They are fun to use, just keep drilling, and it keeps feeding.

I don’t think mine self-feeds.

 

[WisJim]

Great display, Jim. That looks like a lot of fun. Good mix of things, including books, and vertical and horizontal surfaces. Like a mini museum. Did you screw the pegboard to the back of the table? Edit: What is the button, top right, near your "HAND TOOLS" sign?

The pegboard is clamped to the back edge of the table, there's a horizontal 1x2 along the bottom back edge and a vertical 1x2 in the middle of the back of the pegboard. The button is a M-WTCA (Mid-West Tool Collectors Assoc.) pin back tin button.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The button is a M-WTCA (Mid-West Tool Collectors Assoc.) pin back tin button.

Nice.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Here is part 4. ..as we discussing… everyone is right.. I like that.

 

[WisJim]

Chain drills--I have some, here are pictures of some of them. There are others that are permanently attached to breast drills and to bit braces that aren't in the pictures. Some do have automatic feeds, like some Goodell-Pratt and Yankee, but many require an occasional
turn of a disk or knob as you drill to keep the tension on the chain.

 

[RTM]

Here is part 4. ..as we discussing… everyone is right.. I like that.

Ol Sneelock, what a guy

 

[Old tool guy]

I realized a good analogy for mine. It’s like a plumbers tubing cutter, for copper pipe. You get the cutting wheel tight to the pipe, make a couple of turns with the cutter, then snug up the wheel and turn again. Same for the chain drill. Get the bit snug againt the work with the adjustment screw, crank the brace a couple of turns, snug the chain as needed.

 

[TheRealZeus]

Old Record. Pic ref eBay. Chain pipe cutter make me think of the chain drills.
or which came first?
Pretty sure it is the drill.