Above 1200 Sq/FT The Warthog Hidey Hole

[BUGTHUG]

Okay, yeah got ya, but why The Berline Wall? Well sit back in your chair and I'll tell ya'll a tale ladies and gentlemen. You've read of many of the tools my grandfather has passed down to me, his name was simply Berline, no middle name, just Berline. Legend has it he was named after Berlin, Germany, he was born in 1922 before any of the Nazi happenings that were a dark time in our worlds history began. Then he was in the Army in WW2, fighting against the country in which his name was derived. Well I was named after both of my grandfathers and because my parents didn't want to show favoritism they simply call me JB. So there you have it, the story behind The Berline Wall.



Sure glad your grandfather wasn't named IHOP
No really, that's cool being named after our grandfathers. I tried to get my daughter to name one of her sons after me since I'm the end of my family name (as males go). But she had to name them the latest trendy name like Adian. Nobody in our family has that name,and it kindda pisses me off at times.
I've been wanting to burn some of my land off, but its hard to round a few people up when the weather and wind are right. I guess I'll have to wait on my neighbor to burn then light mine at the same time.
Having a flat wall will make it nice to hang signs an stuff on, I'm sure the curve wall makes it difficult.

 

[jbmatth]

Sure glad your grandfather wasn't named IHOP
No really, that's cool being named after our grandfathers. I tried to get my daughter to name one of her sons after me since I'm the end of my family name (as males go). But she had to name them the latest trendy name like Adian. Nobody in our family has that name,and it kindda pisses me off at times.
I've been wanting to burn some of my land off, but its hard to round a few people up when the weather and wind are right. I guess I'll have to wait on my neighbor to burn then light mine at the same time.
Having a flat wall will make it nice to hang signs an stuff on, I'm sure the curve wall makes it difficult.

My other grandfather is James Francis, I'm glad my parents picked James of the two choices. I don't get the trendy names either, we named our daughters pretty popular names for their first names, but they are "normal" names. Then their middle names are family names. We are done with kids so I won't have a son to carry on my name, but I have 5 brothers so no worries about the line continuing.

As far as burning goes, give me a shout, I'm free on Thursday nights as my wife and daughters go to dance and I get me time for the shed and whatever else I want to do. But I know how the winds go around here so sometimes you just can't tell if it will work out until it is on fire then you just have to pray the wind doesn't kick up.
JB

 

[BUGTHUG]

I sure will, if we don't get any storms the next couple of days? I really don't have much, maybe 2 acres, most of it is mowed around so it should be ez to manage. Thanks, JB

 

[jbmatth]

I sure will, if we don't get any storms the next couple of days? I really don't have much, maybe 2 acres, most of it is mowed around so it should be ez to manage. Thanks, JB

Not a problem, I have to find an excuse to come up there and see your shop and all the toys. I'll have to resist the urge to drag one of your extra vehicles home though.

Also how is the electrical going, is your electrician doing better now?

 

[BUGTHUG]

Well he's be going thru some trying times and has a lot going on. I know its more important then my electric. He was out last week and we were pulling the line and going to hook it to the box, then we noticed that WesStar had put a big padlock on the bottom of there meter so we couldn't finish. I called them the next day to see about the procedure for removing lock etc. man they were out in about 30 minutes, took the lock off and said call them when we are done. Then the electrician took off a few days with the family for spring break, haven't talk to him yet??
Hopefully the wind holds off, going to be great to show you my mess, might have to send you home with something

 

[FlyOverStateFarmboy]

What if I built a vertical wall along the lean to like this:

Thoughts?

JB

I was thinking that it would be neat to have some different-depth cubbie/shelves in the dead space between the wall and the curve of the Quonset. You could also add some to your Berline wall that you're building, but they'd be lower to the ground. The place is looking much better now that you have light.

 

[FlyOverStateFarmboy]

If you have any questions when you finally get the JD B from your grandpa, let me know. I've spent numerous hours working on old JDs and even more hours driving them.

Also, whatever happened to the Model A's you were thinking about buying?

 

[jbmatth]

Bugthug, hopefully he gets back into the swing of things and can get you worked into his schedule. Also PM sent.

Fly.: Thanks for coming for a visit to my little shack. Things move a little slow around here as I don't have a lot of time to work out there, but I try to keep moving forward. I hadn't thought about adding some storage that could be accessed on that wall in the lean to, but I might have to incorporate that into the design. I do plan to use the space behind the wall in the main bay using some set in wall cabinets like little closets.

I probably won't get the JD B until this summer some time but will have to make a long weekend out of it, maybe around the 4th of July would work out for that. As for the Model A's sadly that hasn't worked out financially just yet. We are still trying to sell our old house and I don't really have a budget to get all 4 like I was pondering. If the house sell soon I may be able to get them sometime around Thanksgiving. Come September I'll be on lock down with work doing 14 hr days for about 2 months. However, I'll be going down to Texas in 4 weeks to pick up the T^3 (Tool Treasure Trove) so I'm really excited about that as well.
JB

 

[BUGTHUG]

A BIG THANKYOU JB, for coming out and visit. Also the help in putting that header up. I had a nice time showing you the farm. I'll have to return the visit when you have time.

 

[jbmatth]

A BIG THANKYOU JB, for coming out and visit. Also the help in putting that header up. I had a nice time showing you the farm. I'll have to return the visit when you have time.

It was a joy to get to meet you and your wife, I had no idea you had so many vehicles there, but I like them a lot. Your wife's bug is beautiful, and I really liked that Kelmark and Bel Air as well. You have done some nice things with that place and when you finely get those lights finished you'll have a great place to get some work knocked out in the new building. Until next time
JB

 

[jbmatth]

I haven't done anything on the Warthog Hidey Hole lately, but have done some in it recently. I have the end tables sanded and need to get some more fine sand paper before I stain and seal. I rotated the tires on my truck and addressed a few small issues with it and made a parts list for some work that needs to happen relatively soon. It was nice to be able to pull the truck and a trailer in and have lots of working room, and plenty of light.

The big project was mowing, I mowed 2.75 acres (No clue what other countries use as a land measurement, but that is 11,129 square meters) this past weekend. My junky 42" Yard Machine made it, but I'm deeming it unfit for service on the new property. My parents got it new in '05, mowed 5 acres every week until they deemed it dead and gave it to me in '10. I put $200 in it to get it running and have used it for 5 mowing season on the old 1/4 acre (1,500 square meter) yard. I was hoping I could limp it along for one more season out here, but it will not make it. There were lots of old small stumps from when it was bush hogged last year.

Here is the mower ready for me to operate:

This is the leading edge on the discharge side:

The stamped steel deck didn't have any through wall cuts prior to this, bbbbuuuuuutttttt now it does! I fixed this with a hammer and some 1.5"x1.5"x.125" (3.81cmx3.81cmx.3175cm) angle, but didn't get any pictures of the completed repairs. Probably because my welding is more like getting metal to stick like a mud dobber would do.

Here is one of the two cracks in the deck, it is by one of the mounting points (Top of the deck):

And "fixed" (Bottom of the deck):

There was another crack about 3" (7.62cm) long on one of the other 2 mounts I didn't get a picture of but is now "fixed" as well.

It took me about 6 hours of just mowing, and another 4 hours of bending the deck back, fixing some wiring, and welding up some cracks when I finished. So I am throwing in the towel, my awesome wife has been suggesting I get a bigger mower for quite some time now and I know she is right and I'll just **** it up and get a better big kid mower. That is why I had the trailer, I'll pick it up today, it is more than I would have ever thought I'd spend on a mower, but it should do the trick. Pictures to come later of the new mower, but it will be a beast compared to the current mower.

JB

 

[RLaCasse1]

The next stop on the Thanksgiving Treasure Trove Tour T^4 was to a "junk yard" in Poplar Bluff, Mo. at the intersection of Bus. 67 and St. Hwy. 53. Tucked back in the woods you will find hundreds of 30's, 40's, and 50's cars and trucks. They were all in really rough shape and most would probably not be worth restoring, but there may be some gems out there. I know this area has been under water a few times so I'm sure they were in rougher shape than the pictures let on.

Front of a 30's? truck that I liked:

Buick Special I believe:

Buick Special's dash:

If any of ya'll are interested in these cars I can give you more information on how to contact the junk yard that is still in operation. I know they have been there as long as I've known about them probably 15 years or so, and probably aren't going anywhere fast.
Keep watching because there is more to come on the T^4 adventures in store...

From 3rd-7th grade (I'm 27 now) I had to ride past that junk yard every day on my way to school and on the way home, unless my mother decided to take a different route. Can't tell you how many times I day dreamed about those cars.

And yes, it's been underwater, I remember that much. The Black River is close by and there's an irrigation ditch/creek that borders that junkyard. It was one of the first things to flood.

I still have a lot of family in that area, well Doniphan specifically.

 

[jbmatth]

From 3rd-7th grade (I'm 27 now) I had to ride past that junk yard every day on my way to school and on the way home, unless my mother decided to take a different route. Can't tell you how many times I day dreamed about those cars.

And yes, it's been underwater, I remember that much. The Black River is close by and there's an irrigation ditch/creek that borders that junkyard. It was one of the first things to flood.

I still have a lot of family in that area, well Doniphan specifically.

RLaCasse, Welcome to my little thread, hopefully you stick around there will be more fun stuff to come in the future. That is awesome that there is someone else on here that has seen that, I remember seeing it after living near there after about 5 years and have thought about it a lot since then. I'd love to get one of them, but they are so trashed now I doubt they would be worth saving. However, I know "anything" can be fixed if you want to spend the money.
JB

 

[RLaCasse1]

Where did you live at near Poplar Bluff?

 

[jbmatth]

Where did you live at near Poplar Bluff?

I grew up around Malden, I'm assuming you were around Doniphan?
JB

 

[TheEquineFencer]

If this opens, what about redoing the left side wall all the way down like this? Then cut out the curved part.

 

[RLaCasse1]

I grew up around Malden, I'm assuming you were around Doniphan?
JB

Yes, in Doniphan.

Actually went to Malden on a field trip when I was a kid.

 

[jbmatth]

Yes, in Doniphan.

Actually went to Malden on a field trip when I was a kid.

Where did you go in Malden, the Bootheel Youth Museum? I actually don't think I've ever been to that as sad as that is even though I lived in Malden for 8 years.

If this opens, what about redoing the left side wall all the way down like this? Then cut out the curved part.

Horse Fencer, Thank you to stopping by to have a quick read, and thank you even more for some ideas. I'm sure there would be a way to build a vertical wall there to get rid of the curved ribs, however I'm not sure of a good way to do it. That is a great idea and I may have to pull out some of my old structure design books to see if I can come up with anything. My biggest concern is the way the arch transfers its forces in that area all of the force is transferred linearly along the arch. So if in that location the arch is 30 degrees from vertical there would be a large amount of horizontal force along with a huge vertical force. I would guess at 33% horizontal and 67% vertical. Saying that I think it is a great idea and I'll have to investigate it more to determine exactly how it would work. Thank you for giving me an idea, now I'll have to relearn free body diagrams and try to make it happen.
JB

 

[TheEquineFencer]

If there was not the "shelter" there, I wouldn't think about doing it. But I think the shelter side would keep the load from shifting left to right. Adding the wall to bring the load straight down I would think would work. Build a model and try it. Use three bathroom scales and lets say three sections of 3/16 Lauan plywood cut into a curve, then cut some into strips and nail/staple together. Build a section three ribs wide, use the plywood bent across the top like the roofing, then Build your shed side on that. Put all three points of floor contact across the three scales. Build another model just like it but with the wall cut out like I drew and set a cinderblock on top of it on the scales and see if it holds and see how the load is transmitted to the scales. Just thinking out loud.

 

[madoc1]

heck, I would leave the curved ribs. as has been suggested, they could be easily made into storage units on each side. might even put doors on them for a clean look.

jim

 

[jbmatth]

Quick little update, I picked up the new mower last week and it is awesome! It is way faster and much better built, here are some pictures of it:

It is a Hustler Raptor SD 54" I think it has a 23 hp engine. It will mow at around 7mph if your yard is smooth enough to do that, but mine is not. I have mowed some of the yard and don't think it'll even take 3 hours once I figure out how to drive it a little better. I decided to go with Hustler over some of the others for a few reasons, but it came down to cost and quality. A lot of the professional lawn care companies in this area use them and the ones I've talked to are really happy with theirs. It has a bar on the leading edge of the deck that will keep the deck from bending if I happen to hit any of the small tree stumps that destroyed the last mower. That is all for now, but will try to reply to some comments tomorrow.
JB

 

[BUGTHUG]

That's a nice mower, if you have a lot of grass to mow you might as well have fun doing it. I need to buy a zero turn mower one of these days, but they aren't cheap.

 

[jbmatth]

Bugthug, it is a really nice mower and I'm loving having it, if the old pasture wasn't so rough I could mow much faster but with almost 3 acres I think I could do it all in under 3 hours if all goes well. I got it from Dave's Enterprise up in Dexter, Ks. so it isn't that far from you. You are right though they aren't cheap and if I could have gotten by with continuing to use my old mower I would have, but it is shot now and I doubt it would last much longer.

 

[BUGTHUG]

Did you buy it before the owner died? I think Dave died in February, and his brother is running it. My cousin, both of them own a mower like that. One cousin liked his mower so much he went around and did a few of his neighbors yards for free, his yard is way to small for the mower he bought.
How can you get all the roots out of your yard? I need to start sharpening my blades up, cause the wife is already bothering me about mowing my yard.

 

[jbmatth]

If there was not the "shelter" there, I wouldn't think about doing it. But I think the shelter side would keep the load from shifting left to right. Adding the wall to bring the load straight down I would think would work. Build a model and try it. Use three bathroom scales and lets say three sections of 3/16 Lauan plywood cut into a curve, then cut some into strips and nail/staple together. Build a section three ribs wide, use the plywood bent across the top like the roofing, then Build your shed side on that. Put all three points of floor contact across the three scales. Build another model just like it but with the wall cut out like I drew and set a cinderblock on top of it on the scales and see if it holds and see how the load is transmitted to the scales. Just thinking out loud.

Horse Fencer,
I agree building a scale model would tell me quite a bit about how the structure would perform in it's altered state. However, the problem with that is I wouldn't be able to scale the strengths of all of the materials. The 2x6's that make up the ribs are laminated plywood and there are a lot of other variables I couldn't accurately account for that could really skew the results. I'll talk to some of my friends that do structural design work and see if that would be something they would want to tackle with their design software, as I don't have access to any FEA (Finite Element Analysis) software any longer. I'm not sure how much work I want to do on this structure beyond lighting, electrical, and maybe the clean/conditioned bays in the lean to area. I'd like to think in the future when I outgrow this shop I could build another more typical garage for car and completed project storage and just use this one for staging, storage, and dirty work.

heck, I would leave the curved ribs. as has been suggested, they could be easily made into storage units on each side. might even put doors on them for a clean look.
jim

Madoc1,
As mentioned above I'll probably just leave them and add some storage space and still have the flat wall. I'm not limited on space by a long shot, but know that day may very well come. If I have too many cars or completed projects that need to find a safe place I could always build another garage, something like an eight car should last me for a while, I could even put in storage lifts and make it a 16 car.

Did you buy it before the owner died? I think Dave died in February, and his brother is running it. My cousin, both of them own a mower like that. One cousin liked his mower so much he went around and did a few of his neighbors yards for free, his yard is way to small for the mower he bought.
How can you get all the roots out of your yard? I need to start sharpening my blades up, cause the wife is already bothering me about mowing my yard.

Bugthug,
I just bought it last weekend, I guess I bought it from his brother rather than Dave. I didn't realize that, but the business is still up and going and the gentleman that helped me out was knowledgeable and very helpful. That mower would have been way too big for my yard at the old house, but I would have just spent half as much and gotten another cheap zero turn for that house. I start having a panic attack about the yard long before my wife even thinks it is getting out of hand, but I'm pretty **** when it comes to wanting a nice cut yard.

Luckily I don't have to worry about any big roots so far, anything I've hit that gave me trouble I've just pulled out with my truck and a chain. The things that were giving my little mover fits were little 1" (2.54cm) and smaller stumps from small trees or probably more accurately saplings. I've cut the bigger ones off with my trusty reciprocating saw, and the ones smaller than that I didn't worry about.

 

[jbmatth]

I did a little bit of rewiring on some of the last few lights I still have to put up as some fill in work. Nothing exciting there so no pictures. When I get them all done I'll have to borrow or rent some scaffolding or a man lift to get them up to the 16' peak of the roof where they will be going.

I have been making some progress on The Berline Wall (TBW), I spent a little of my birthday money to buy some more material. I decided to take advantage of some of the dead space behind TBW and install the HF 44" box in it. I don't know if this is an original idea or not, but it lets me have that much more open floor and is just kinda neat in my opinion.

The wall as it stands today:

Close up of the box, like a glove:

It is flush mounted now but I'm going to move it out about .5" (1.27cm) so if I face that wall with what I have planned it'll be flush with that:

It is coming along rather steadily right now and I should be able to get another couple of sections up by Monday if all goes well. Question for ya'll first, should I frame in another opening for another box now or wait for if I ever decide to buy another box to do that? I don't want to have to do a lot of rework, but at the same time I don't want to have a big open hole in there either.
Ya'll have a great and safe weekend and keep moving forward,
JB

 

[BUGTHUG]

Looks good. I don't know what you paid for the osb, but that place in Ark City called Skyline (makes trailer house's) they sell the osb that comes on top of the big stack of osb that protects it. Its T&G and its over 1/2 and 5/8", metric, but it has some long staples you have to remove but they sell it for $8.00 a sheet, some of it has blue paint on it, and sometimes it has other markings but its good for walls and floors.
My cousin been working a lot of overtime, but I'll call him this weekend and see about the scaffolding.
You should make cabinet type doors for the bottom of the walls to store stuff in that dead space, put hinges on the top and open the doors up instead of L or R. But L or R can do the same thing. That would be a good place for floor jacks, chains or weird stuff that don't fit anywhere else.

 

[bored350]

If you already know where you would want that next box to be, frame it now and take a few good pics of the area. Make a drawing after you establish a datum and store the pics and drawing in the existing tool box so it is readily available. Instead of leaving a hole, just put the sheathing right over the framed area for now and cut it out later on if needed. If you aren't screwing everything together, be sure to screw the one piece of sheathing in where to box would go, so you can easily take it down to cut later on.

 

[jbmatth]

Looks good. I don't know what you paid for the osb, but that place in Ark City called Skyline (makes trailer house's) they sell the osb that comes on top of the big stack of osb that protects it. Its T&G and its over 1/2 and 5/8", metric, but it has some long staples you have to remove but they sell it for $8.00 a sheet, some of it has blue paint on it, and sometimes it has other markings but its good for walls and floors.
My cousin been working a lot of overtime, but I'll call him this weekend and see about the scaffolding.
You should make cabinet type doors for the bottom of the walls to store stuff in that dead space, put hinges on the top and open the doors up instead of L or R. But L or R can do the same thing. That would be a good place for floor jacks, chains or weird stuff that don't fit anywhere else.

Bugthug,
I'm getting it at lowes on my way home so it is right off of my normal path and it is something just over $8 each so really a wash in my book. Thanks for the tip though, oh and I completely forgot about him having the scaffolding, that would be great if it works out. I plan to do something with that area, but I'll have benches in front of all of the wall to the right of the tool box.

If you already know where you would want that next box to be, frame it now and take a few good pics of the area. Make a drawing after you establish a datum and store the pics and drawing in the existing tool box so it is readily available. Instead of leaving a hole, just put the sheathing right over the framed area for now and cut it out later on if needed. If you aren't screwing everything together, be sure to screw the one piece of sheathing in where to box would go, so you can easily take it down to cut later on.

Bored350,
Thanks for stopping by to pay a visit and drop me a line! I think I will just go ahead and frame it out now. Then screw the OSB over the top of the opening. I'll still have access behind it later on so no worries about forgetting where it is. I use screws in just about anything I build. I use the star bits as I've found they are great for not stripping and are really easy to drive with my little Dewalt 20vmax 1/4" impact. Those two things are a great addition to any place that ever puts in more than a couple of screws!

JB

 

[jbmatth]

I was able to get two more sections of wall up this weekend, I now have 24' (7.3152m) of wall TBW completed. I'll add one more section on the right then work my way down toward the left to finish this one off. I went ahead and framed in the next opening for another tool box and just boarded over it. When the time comes I'll be able to cut it out easy enough.

That is all for now,
JB

 

[BUGTHUG]

I see some daylight on the roof above the lights, you get rain coming thru there?

 

[jbmatth]

Those are the skylights, and no rain right there really, there were a few drops here and there this morning but nothing major. Now on the lean to side that is another story, there were more wet spots than dry spots over there. I'll have to look into that further before I decide to insulate that side.

 

[jbmatth]

Just a heads up to all 2 of the people that are following this thread, I have a give away going on in this thread (http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288731)for some of this:

Mostly Craftsman sockets with a few other things scattered in, let me hear some good reasons why you or someone you know needs them. Further detail in the linked thread.

I've added the following after the initial post above.

So besides "finding" great deals on Craftsman sockets lately I've also been working on getting T.B.W. moved along. I knew I needed to get some wiring in that wall before to got too much longer as access is getting less fun the longer it gets. (Maybe I need to add a small access door in the middle while I have a good chance. Hmm... I love when I give myself ideas while thinking and typing out loud. lol) Well I decided I would put an outlet every 4' (1.22m) along the wall and 4" above my planned bench height so I would have enough room for a short back splash there when I build cabinets later down the road. Because I already had the OSB up and I didn't want to have to use the jig saw to cut ~17 total semi-accurate holes for outlet boxes I figured out a jig to use with my router. Here is the jig, it isn't straight at all now because the router decided to jump around on me a time or two or three or...:

Here is the bit I'm using:

This was the smallest I could find with a top bearing, it was 3/4" on a 1/4" shank. I drilled out a 1" hole with an auger bit then inserted the router to work its magic.

The holes took less time to make than the jig did because I couldn't find the board I wanted to use so I settled for that old particle board shelf material in the above photo. Holes done:

Re-purposed outlet boxes with new outlets and covers along with reusing the old wiring from the previous outlets that were spaced every 4', or 12', or 16', or whatever just felt like a good space to put an outlet. Here they are installed and wired:

I haven't wired them into the breaker box yet because I've decided to install one more section of wall on the right but that is in the works for the next couple of mornings and afternoons. Hope everyone is having a great time with this beautiful spring weather even if it is a little wet. As always keep moving forward,
JB

 

[BUGTHUG]

Hey JB, looks like you've been busy. I've been in and out of the hospital last week, sooo.. I haven't had a chance to do much.
So whats the deal with the Craftsman sockets? I could use some 3/8 size, and metric if you have any left over. I'm sure we can find something to trade you for them.
I got out a little today and went to a auction about a mile from my house. It was a pretty good farm auction, lots of tools and old stuff. The prices were very good for a change. I was getting 3 or 4 flats of tools and nuts and bolt for .50< It seemed when no one bid on the stuff the auctioneer pretty much charged me .50< then moved on to the next item. I got a big box of hunting dog trophy's for.50<, probably 30 old trophy's in the late 60's,70's and some 80's. Not sure if people collect them or not, but I'd make a good deal to someone.
I need to come over and see what your barn looks like, and check out your car. OK, later

 

[jbmatth]

I'll have a bit of an update tomorrow, but the biggest new I have as of now is our old house is under contract! That means I'll be able to spend a couple extra dollars a month out here and should be able to make some purchases I've been putting off. As well I'll be able to start actually looking seriously into buying parts for my Cobra. Until next time you will all just have to dream about the possible old tools I'll be showing you. (oops I've said too much.)

BUGTHUG,
Sorry to hear about your trips to the hospital, hopefully you are doing better now and don't have to go back to deal with that again. I don't really think I have a need for a bunch of hunting dog trophies, but that is very unique for sure.
If you want any sockets shoot me a PM and let me know what sizes you need, whether you need 6 or 12 pt, and if you only want Craftsman or would take off brands as well, I'll see what all I have that could help you fill out your collection. As I mentioned in the other thread I really don't have a need for 50 of the same size sockets so I'm more than happy to send them to someone who has a need for them.

To all,
Keep moving forward,
JB

 

[jbmatth]

I've picked up a few cheap additions to the shop this week, I love that people have old equipment and don't really think it is worth anything because it is old, and not what they want. I found this:

It is a Montgomery Ward Drill Press Model Number 93FD627A sold in their Powr-Kraft catalog and from what I can tell it was made by Duro in 1939. The motor isn't original, but all it needed was to be cleaned and a new plug wired. Here are the after cleaning shots:

As you can see I have a little snag to deal with, the chuck screws on and off but the threaded rod won't screw into the spindle enough to be hidden. It has me frustrated because I don't want to mess up the threads and not be able to get it back together.

I also picked up the obligatory Wilton vise:

It is a 9350? (I'll correct this later if I find out I can't remember.), with 3.5" jaws. It was already painted this nasty black, but is in great shape, the jaws look brand new! I'll take it apart and clean it sometime and may even paint it. Best part of it is, I only paid $30 for it, yeah I can see the jealousy on your face now.

Then today I picked up this Littlestown vise:

It has 4.5" jaws and is in much rougher shape, I'll have to clean this one up before I do anything with it. But again for $25, how could I argue. Now all I'm missing as a BIG vise in around a 6-8" variety, I'm sure I'll find one someday, but not today. Hope everyone has a great day.

JB

 

[sean Buick 76]

Lots of really cool projects, thanks for keeping us updated!

 

[Dirk Thelen]

JB,
Regarding your chuck issue on the Montgomery Ward Drill Press. Could it be that this particular chuck is non original? I've seen similar drill presses around here on the forum with the old style chucks. Similar to the ones on a hand operated drill, like a Millers Falls no 2.
Dirk

 

[jbmatth]

Sean thanks for checking in, I'm trying to do justice to some of these projects, but they are stacking up faster than I can tackle them.

Dirk, I've determined to problem, the chuck is a Jacobs 33b with about 1.25" of 1/2x20 threads, the spindle on the spindle were originally 2.5" long and 1/2x24 threads that were re threaded at some point most of the way up to fit the Jacobs chucks. The threaded rod is machined from the spindle. When the chuck is fully seated there are still about 1.25" of threads showing. I believe I'm missing a bushing for that area but I'm not certain. I've ordered one nonetheless to make it look more appropriate as I don't want to cut the threaded rod any shorter. I'll have another update next week that should be a good one if it pans out. Keep moving forward.


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[madoc1]

are the threads showing hurting something, or just ugly? good score tho. I just picked up a 1945 delta and am in the process of derusting it.

jim