Tools from the old world

[measuredtwice]

That's a really short spring. The old Snap-On 36 toothers had super long springs and do well with a shortened spring. I haven't tried swapping springs on a ratchet with a spring as short as that Stahlwille.

The replacement is a much lighter spring. You might try using a longer length of the replacement. You'll have to compress the spring more during assembly which can be tricky. It's even more difficult with the super long spring on the Snap-On 36 tooth so Snap-On made a special tool. It's just a thin piece of spring steel with a hole that's smaller than the diameter of the ball bearing. You use the tool to compress the spring and the hole traps the ball bearing to keep it from flying across the room. It would be easy to make your own.

Ordered some new springs to try and reduce backdrag on a 1/2" Stahlwille. Didn't want to cut the original spring, because I think I will be selling the ratchet on. Got the spring from a Chinese seller on Ebay. Thinner gauge wire so a softer spring.

The softer spring results in much lower backdrag and the ratchet mechanism still seams to work properly, but the switch became floppy. Just stays where you leave it rather than positively engaging on either side. Not recommended.

 

[node105]

Hafu Torx

Here's a brand I hadn't seen before. So I ordered some. Made in Germany. A bit of web ferreting , and downloading their extensive catalogue of almost exclusively keys, it seems they are the ones who make for a bunch of brands.

link to their 100 page catalogue of hex keys
https://www.hafu.de/index-en

 

[node105]

And a set of metric Wiha that arrived a couple of weeks ago from TBS Aachen at 60% of the locally sourced Hafu.

Wiha 26247 L-key with T-handle set ComfortGrip Hex
agon with side drive, matt chrome-plated 6-pcs.

 

[node105]

Hafu catalogue
https://www.hafu.de/index-en

it's 7.4MB so won't upload to here.


But this entry, is identical to a set of AMF I have.

 

[mr.lemons]

Hafu and Oplast look to use the same handle. Makes tracing OEM a bit confusing.

really proud of that post, eh?

or did you hit the pub early tonight?

Been a while since I've seen the inside of a pub.

Deleted the duplicate post.

 

[Jack84]

Hafu

Gesundheit.




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[mr.lemons]

Copied Monte.

Swapped the top onto some brake cleaner to see if it fits other cans. It clipped in place, but instantly started spraying brake cleaner all around the inside of my car. Not the smartest thing I've ever done. There must be a little variation in spray nozzles.

 

[Mr.Smoke]

Pretty sure I got these from my grandfather when he passed away back in 2007 and had totally forgot I even had them. The only marking/branding I can see anywhere is a C.H. on the handle/driver and each smaller driver. No idea how old they are and I've never seen anything quite lile them before.

Has anyone ever seen/used these before?

 

[measuredtwice]

Pretty sure I got these from my grandfather when he passed away back in 2007 and had totally forgot I even had them. The only marking/branding I can see anywhere is a C.H. on the handle/driver and each smaller driver. No idea how old they are and I've never seen anything quite lile them before.

Has anyone ever seen/used these before?

I had the exact same set in the late 80s or early 90s. I still have it... somewhere. It was very inexpensive.

 

[Mr.Smoke]

I had the exact same set in the late 80s or early 90s. I still have it... somewhere. It was very inexpensive.

Yeah I figured it wasn't some high end, expensive set that was rare or anything like that. Had just never came across anything quite like them before and was curious. Googling seemed to be useless for finding out any information.

 

[RoundedNut]

Hafu Torx

Here's a brand I hadn't seen before. So I ordered some. Made in Germany. A bit of web ferreting , and downloading their extensive catalogue of almost exclusively keys, it seems they are the ones who make for a bunch of brands.

Well it looks like they make that for INBUS as well. I was on the fence about INBUS and I think I'll pass.

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08DDCZ3MR/

 

[measuredtwice]

Yeah I figured it wasn't some high end, expensive set that was rare or anything like that. Had just never came across anything quite like them before and was curious. Googling seemed to be useless for finding out any information.

I think it was an imitation of Xcelite --> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007NLPRTI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Mr.Smoke]

I think it was an imitation of Xcelite --> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007NLPRTI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

That does look like a very similar kit. No way would I ever pay that price for something of that nature though.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Dave455]

Pretty sure I got these from my grandfather when he passed away back in 2007 and had totally forgot I even had them. The only marking/branding I can see anywhere is a C.H. on the handle/driver and each smaller driver. No idea how old they are and I've never seen anything quite lile them before.

Has anyone ever seen/used these before?

These were sold in the U.K. in the mid 1970’s. They were called “Toolmate” here, and I think were made in Japan.

Yes, they were a copy of the Xcelite PS-88 screwdriver set which, at the time, came in a similar plastic box. No, the copies were not the best quality. I have a set somewhere that I was given at that time, but can’t locate them right now.

I can recall using them building a model railway, and wiring Christmas lights. They were fine for that. Probably not for much else!

The Xcelite tools are of a much better quality, and do have their followers! Xcelite version shown below.

 

[Monte]

Well it looks like they make that for INBUS as well. I was on the fence about INBUS and I think I'll pass.

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08DDCZ3MR/

Inbus = Hafu ...same company

Gesundheit.

lol

Copied Monte.
Swapped the top onto some brake cleaner to see if it fits other cans. It clipped in place, but instantly started spraying brake cleaner all around the inside of my car. Not the smartest thing I've ever done. There must be a little variation in spray nozzles.

This one fits too....but i wouldn´t try it inside a car either

 

[ChefRex]

Inbus = Hafu ...same company

lol

This one fits too....but i wouldn´t try it inside a car either

Oh, an ElCamino in Germany!

 

[Phang]

Hazet 1979-91

well built and bright

it has a built in 3.7 v 2600mah lithium ion battery, likely a 18650

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[Monte]

Oh, an ElCamino in Germany!

Good eye !

Hazet 1979-91
well built and bright
it has a built in 3.7 v 2600mah lithium ion battery, likely a 18650

Looks very nice !







"Hansewerkzeug" tools for measuring/adjusting gap dimensions

 

[16again]

Anyone have this Snap-On tool? Perhaps a spare they would like to sell to me?

That's a really short spring. The old Snap-On 36 toothers had super long springs and do well with a shortened spring. I haven't tried swapping springs on a ratchet with a spring as short as that Stahlwille.

The replacement is a much lighter spring. You might try using a longer length of the replacement. You'll have to compress the spring more during assembly which can be tricky. It's even more difficult with the super long spring on the Snap-On 36 tooth so Snap-On made a special tool. It's just a thin piece of spring steel with a hole that's smaller than the diameter of the ball bearing. You use the tool to compress the spring and the hole traps the ball bearing to keep it from flying across the room. It would be easy to make your own.

 

[measuredtwice]

Anyone have this Snap-On tool? Perhaps a spare they would like to sell to me?

FYI. Model # is spp744. There are some on Ebay for $12-15 shipped.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284185412274
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133418224402

Snap-On used to sell them for $1 with free shipping but I can't find them on the store so they are probably discontinued. Those were the good old days!
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38759

Simple to make out of a scrap of spring steel.

 

[Gert]

Found me this metric Stahlwille Stubby set, took me some years to find.

 

[16again]

FYI. Model # is spp744. There are some on Ebay for $12-15 shipped.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284185412274
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133418224402

Snap-On used to sell them for $1 with free shipping but I can't find them on the store so they are probably discontinued. Those were the good old days!
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38759

Simple to make out of a scrap of spring steel.

You were a great help. Ordered one of them just now. Thank you

 

[Dave455]

Found me this metric Stahlwille Stubby set, took me some years to find.

That’s a good find!

Short length ring spanners / box end wrenches are a very underrated tool in my opinion, and I can’t believe Stahlwille discontinued the No.18.

They still offer the “aircraft spec” No.180 (as you probably know) but not in metric!

 

[jimmyin3D]

Some NWS pliers. Beautiful quality especially liking the NWS 147-62-200 safety grip pliers. The shape of the circle is much more shallow allowing for easy gripping of hoses in all sizes, also works on clips. I like it much better than the Knipex hose gripping pliers as well. I thought the tips would be fragile but there isn’t any give or bending.

Also the small flat nose pliers are awesome, I had my eye on a pair like this for a bit but it’s been great dismantling the electronics of a CM block grinder.

I really like NWS pliers, especially the regular grips.

 

[mr.lemons]

That's a really short spring. The old Snap-On 36 toothers had super long springs and do well with a shortened spring. I haven't tried swapping springs on a ratchet with a spring as short as that Stahlwille.

The replacement is a much lighter spring. You might try using a longer length of the replacement. You'll have to compress the spring more during assembly which can be tricky.

Got round to trying a longer (softer) spring. Used a slice of mesh in place of the tool. Thanks for the helpful info on that, it reduced parts flying and swearing. As the spring provides tension for the pawl and the switch, it's a trade-off between backdrag and floppy switch, but the longer spring works quite well in both regards.

 

[Qualitytools]

Some NWS pliers. Beautiful quality especially liking the NWS 147-62-200 safety grip pliers. The shape of the circle is much more shallow allowing for easy gripping of hoses in all sizes, also works on clips. I like it much better than the Knipex hose gripping pliers as well. I thought the tips would be fragile but there isn’t any give or bending.

Also the small flat nose pliers are awesome, I had my eye on a pair like this for a bit but it’s been great dismantling the electronics of a CM block grinder.

I really like NWS pliers, especially the regular grips.

Jimmy I really like that 147-62-200, I have the KNIPEX one and I found it too big for vacuum lines for instance

Doing some search on the NWS I found at KCTOOLS the -205 bot 200 (not that big of a difference in length) where did you buy yours? Thanks

 

[measuredtwice]

Happy it was helpful

You were a great help. Ordered one of them just now. Thank you

Got round to trying a longer (softer) spring. Used a slice of mesh in place of the tool. Thanks for the helpful info on that, it reduced parts flying and swearing. As the spring provides tension for the pawl and the switch, it's a trade-off between backdrag and floppy switch, but the longer spring works quite well in both regards.

 

[Reed Prince]

I had an application recently that required a Pliers Wrench that was larger than any I already owned, so I finally had a reason to buy this one.

Perhaps my collection of Pliers Wrenches and Cobras is finally complete. Of course, I've thought I had everything I wanted/needed a couple of times before this most recent purchase.

 

[theamcguy]

Anybody have a source for the
"Hansewerkzeug" tools for measuring/adjusting gap dimensions in the US or that will ship to the US. TIA

 

[SRSemenza]

I had an application recently that required a Pliers Wrench that was larger than any I already owned, so I finally had a reason to buy this one.

Perhaps my collection of Pliers Wrenches and Cobras is finally complete. Of course, I've thought I had everything I wanted/needed a couple of times before this most recent purchase.

Not complete until you get the 400 Pliers Wrench

Might as well get it now ....................... you know your going to need it


Seth

 

[Gert]

That’s a good find!

Short length ring spanners / box end wrenches are a very underrated tool in my opinion, and I can’t believe Stahlwille discontinued the No.18.

They still offer the “aircraft spec” No.180 (as you probably know) but not in metric!

Very true, and underrated indeed. The metric ones hardly ever pop up on local craigslist here. I am glad I found these.

 

[Monte]

Perhaps my collection of Pliers Wrenches and Cobras is finally complete. Of course, I've thought I had everything I wanted/needed a couple of times before this most recent purchase.

wow nice assortment !

Anybody have a source for the
"Hansewerkzeug" tools for measuring/adjusting gap dimensions in the US or that will ship to the US. TIA

https://www.mactools.com/en-us/Paint-and-Body/Hand-Tools/FT141131/Panel-Gap-Gauge

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-hands-free-panel-gap-setting-tool.html

there´s also this:
https://www.autotoolworld.com/Dent-Fix-Equipment-Corporation-PG213-Gauge-Perfect-Gap_p_226039.html

Hello everyone,
This is the first time I post here.
Here's the first Hazet tool I got from tbs-aachen.

Welcome ! Beautiful set !

 

[eas311]

Recent purchase from Amazon.de

Paid about $50, compared to KC Tool at > $125. Should be a nice compliment to the Nuss-Box (which are metric sockets, this R-GO set is Imperial).

https://www.kctoolco.com/felo-62053-felo-r-go-xl-36-piece-box-sockets-bits-ergonic-ratchet-inch/

 

[mr.lemons]

Hello everyone,
This is the first time I post here.
Here's the first Hazet tool I got from tbs-aachen.

Very nice.

 

[mr.lemons]

Gertus drills.

Took a gamble on these. The price on Amazon keeps bouncing from £40 down to £8-9. I don't know anything about Gertus. Prices for the set vary on different sites, starting from about 11 euro. Was hoping for German coo somewhere on the case, but no such luck. May have fallen for the Chinese tat parading as German trick. Will find out when I come to use them.

http://www.gertus.de/index.php

 

[mr.lemons]

Empty Gedore case picked up from Ebay.

Same as their 1/2" socket cases, but about 20mm deeper.

Not sure how easy it will be to remove the inner dividers. May have to cut them out.

 

[mr.lemons]

Disappointed with Pferd key files.

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[Dumber than lumber]

Tried to get the count to 33,000 even!
Too slow

 

[Dave455]

Disappointed with Pferd key files.

That is a bit disappointing. I think you can expect better than that.

I have to say though, that a warding file (which is what those are) is probably the wrong tool for that job. They have to be thin for the role they are designed for, but most times, in general engineering, one needs something a bit heftier.

I don’t bother with warding files at all now. Once my biggest needle files run out of steam, I tend to reach for something such as the “Habilis” files shown below. They’re little longer than a warding file, but work so much better for most jobs.

To be honest, for the piece you were demonstrating on, I’d be using something heftier still, such as the Vallorbe “precision” file shown with the blue handle in the first picture. I don’t generally bother buying “sets”. If you just buy the shapes you need they are not too costly.

 

[beelsr]

Key files are for light, delicate filing tasks, especially in tool- and mold (mould?)-making.