Light Fixture Layout Collections

[Platonic Solid]

bottom feeder - Something like this (link). 4ft 2-lamp LED strip lights using 2640 Lm bulbs from post 1 of best light fixture sticky.

Could make the left and center 5 fixture continuous end-to-end.

 

[bottom feeder]

Platonic,

Thank you for taking the time to help me. I appreciate it very much!!

 

[rd65]

Frustration has peaked in figuring out my lighting layout. I have downloaded DIALux as recommended and I cant figure that thing out at all. I have a 32w x 28d w/ 10 ceilings. All walls and ceiling are painted semi gloss white. I have purchased 16 Maxlite fixtures and the Lumegen bulbs in 5000K from the list here. What I am trying to figure out is the best layout.
Would it be best this way - or l. I will be using 2 circuits with the fixtures above the garage doors on their own switch (2-10w x 8h roll up doors). Task lighting over the work benches will be added.

 

[Betviper]

I would LOVE to see what you would think for light placement for my shop. It's a 40x60 metal shop. 16ft walls and 19-20ft peak. 3 - 10x10 roll up doors and a 14x12 roll up door in the front. Along with 2 normal sized entry doors. I have 4 small windows and no skylights. My wife bought me 12 of these lights for my birthday and I have been tossing around placement ideas. I will have several work benches but will add separate lighting for each and a 2 post lift (location still to be determined). Thanks in advance for your suggestion.

4 Lamp - F54T5 - High Output - Fluorescent High Bay - Length 48 in. x Width 11.4 in. - Full Specular Mirror Reflector - PLT HBC454M23MV

 

[rd65]

Frustration has peaked in figuring out my lighting layout. I have downloaded DIALux as recommended and I cant figure that thing out at all. I have a 32w x 28d w/ 10 ceilings. All walls and ceiling are painted semi gloss white. I have purchased 16 Maxlite fixtures and the Lumegen bulbs in 5000K from the list here. What I am trying to figure out is the best layout.
Would it be best this way - or l. I will be using 2 circuits with the fixtures above the garage doors on their own switch (2-10w x 8h roll up doors). Task lighting over the work benches will be added.

I have found a general layout guide at Atlas Lighting. It does not give the option of beam angle. How much will this change results? How will results differ from luminaire orientation? Thanks in advance for any advise.

 

[Absalom]

Platonic -- looking for just rough suggestions for 24x24 garage. Finished 8ft ceiling. I want TONS of light, from all angles. Considering wall mount panels?

In any case, looking forward to your input!

 

[PNWguy]

Platonic,

This is a goldmine! Thanks for all the work you've put into it.

I'm building a shop that is very similar to the very first one in this thread (30' x 40' x 12' - with a lift in the same place).

It's been a few years since that was written, and wonder if you'd do anything differently at this point? You spec'd fluorescent tubes, and I assume you'd go for LED now?

 

[Platonic Solid]

I'm building a shop that is very similar to the very first one in this thread (30' x 40' x 12' - with a lift in the same place).

It's been a few years since that was written, and wonder if you'd do anything differently at this point? You spec'd fluorescent tubes, and I assume you'd go for LED now?

I ran a test and would do the same basic layout using 4ft 2-Lamp LED strip lights 2640 Lm/bulb. 30' x 40' x 12' would require 30 fixtures. 4 rows of 6 fixtures mounted end-to-end parallel to cars and one fixture in front and back centered parallel to garage doors.

 

[PNWguy]

I ran a test and would do the same basic layout using 4ft 2-Lamp LED strip lights 2640 Lm/bulb. 30' x 40' x 12' would require 30 fixtures. 4 rows of 6 fixtures mounted end-to-end parallel to cars and one fixture in front and back centered parallel to garage doors.

Thanks! Looks like it'll be nice and bright.

 

[Absalom]

Platonic -- looking for just rough suggestions for 24x24 garage. Finished 8ft ceiling. I want TONS of light, from all angles. Considering wall mount panels?

In any case, looking forward to your input!

Any luck with this build?

 

[Betviper]

I will either go 4 rows of 3 lights or 3 rows of 4 lights (front to back) 40ft wide by 60 feet long. I am leaning towards the 3 rows of 4 lights. Using these lights

4 Lamp - F54T5 - High Output - Fluorescent High Bay - Length 48 in. x Width 11.4 in. - Full Specular Mirror Reflector - PLT HBC454M23MV

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Platonic -- looking for just rough suggestions for 24x24 garage. Finished 8ft ceiling. I want TONS of light, from all angles. Considering wall mount panels?

In any case, looking forward to your input!

See this thread (link).

 

[Platonic Solid]

Platonic -- looking for just rough suggestions for 24x24 garage. Finished 8ft ceiling. I want TONS of light, from all angles. Considering wall mount panels?

In any case, looking forward to your input!

Or if you really want to go off the deep end, see this thread (link).

 

[burton391]

just moved into this home. I just put down light grey epoxy on the floor. will have the walls dry walled and painted white on top light grey on bottom. I like having more then adequate light. Thinking of going LED. Would like each bay to be on its own switch so i dont have to always run all the lights. I am a machinst and do a lot of side jobs.

 

[evoluzione]

Platonic Solid; thanks for this great thread. Just read through most of it and am trying to pick out what lighting setup would work best for my case.

I really like the new 2x4 flat panel led's you've suggested Link to others. Is there a solution to mount them flush to the ceiling drywall?

Also, construction is moving forward and it's almost time for the electrician. If you have a moment, could you recommend a setup for my garage? It's a 2 car garage, with a workbench at the end (near the hallway where there's the 5' wall). It's a bit quirky, but it's what I have so it will have to do! 11ft ceilings

Any tips?


thank you!

 

[HellaFab]

HellaFab - Here you go. 3 identical layouts using different lumen output Maxlite fixtures. The numbers at the end of each file indicate individual fixture lumen output as provided by their IES file. Your space is rather small for a 10ft ceiling height, thus a narrower beam spread might work better. Of these 3 I like the 4759 best.

HellaFab-4472.pdf

I omitted the two along the bottom wall (garage door interference) and evenly distributed things in a similar fashion using 11 fixtures and your layout. Just having the boxes up on the ceiling now I can tell it will be amazing lighting.

Thanks for your time putting this together Platonic! I do wonder what omitting the two lights over the door will ultimately mean for the lighting distribution.

 

[George Hill]

Platonic,
Thanks for all of the great info you have shared so far. I was wondering if you could give me an opinion on my shop.

It's a 40x60x16 with a 3/12 roof. It is sheet rocked to 12' and everything is spray foamed. All walls and ceiling are bright white. I have 2 car lifts and 1 motorcycle lift. Lots of workbenches and tall shelving. I have (2) very large garage doors that have high lift track and follow the roof line. I'm not afraid to put lights above them, but space is an issue as there is only 12" or so. Above my built out area is an open second floor mezzanine that I'm not to concerned about getting carried away with the lighting.

My biggest concern is shadows. I do lots of work on my lifts and getting lighting under the hood is tough. I am leaning towards lots of 4' LED fixtures, maybe 40+. What are your thoughts?

Thanks, George

 

[Platonic Solid]

George Hill (& all others I've passed over) - Sorry, I don't have time for layouts at the moment. Too busy working my own projects that must be finished before winter. Yours in particular requires a DWG or DXF CAD drawing to do it right. Pictures of the space helps too. Try searching 40x60 in this Lighting & Electrical forum.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Here are a couple reference layout threads for you guys with big spaces and higher ceilings:

ronzmtrwrx 50x60x12 (16' @ peak)

moserjj 40x56x14

kram02 40x48x16

 

[GirlnAgarage]

Platonic Solid, I appreciate all the guidance and knowledge you've provided to the forum. I capitalized on your suggestions to other members on layouts and products. Every time I flip the light switch I'm happy with the result and glad for your expertise. Thank you.

I threw 10, yes 10 4' LEDs in my garage. You can see if from space now I think. It's a 18.5 x 20.5 x 8.3. Probably overkill but at the time I wasn't taking any chances of falling short. My reasoning, I can turn lights off if it's too bright, but I can't add them if it's too dark. So, too bright it was.

Anyway, been a joy working in my garage now. When I go without the new lights and flip on only the garage door, I can't believe how long I lived in such dimness.

 

[Platonic Solid]

I'm glad I've been able to help brighten up peoples lives. I believe This Lighting ***** (link) is the thread GirlInAgarage is referencing.

 

[George Hill]

Thanks PS for all you have done for this forum...

Looking at the lights listed in post #1, when is it worth going to a high bay vs. a LED retrofitted strip light? I thought I saw you mentioned strip lights are best below 12', but I've also seen you recommend them on higher ceiling projects.

Actual light height will be minimum 15' up to 20' can I get away with a bunch of strip lights, or are the high bays a better option?

 

[Platonic Solid]

George Hill - Linear highbay is the best option for your height. The 110W 16400 Lumen Greentek (link) is a good choice - also available here (link) at lower cost if you are purchasing $1000+ to get free shipping. Keep in mind that older layouts may have been done prior to the existence of low cost linear highbays.

 

[George Hill]

PS,
Thanks for confirming, that is what I had gathered from reading your prior posts.

 

[shaggyant]

George Hill - Linear highbay is the best option for your height. The 110W 16400 Lumen Greentek (link) is a good choice - also available here (link) at lower cost if you are purchasing $1000+ to get free shipping. Keep in mind that older layouts may have been done prior to the existence of low cost linear highbays.

How would I go about mounting the high bay lights you link above directly to a Sheetrock ceiling 16 feet up? I am looking for a bracket to allow flush mounting without the chains but haven’t seen one yet.

These will replace 8 foot two bulb t12HO fixtures currently in place screwed up to the ceiling.

 

[rd65]

Platonic - thanks for all the time you commit to this group. The pics are with half the lights installed. The rest have been installed and I am more than pleased at this point. The units are brighter than the Costco LED that are in the house garage. The lighting will change as I outfit the shop with gear, wall coverings, and some shelving. 16 Maxlight fixtures with Lumegen 5000K.

 

[Platonic Solid]

How would I go about mounting the high bay lights you link above directly to a Sheetrock ceiling 16 feet up? I am looking for a bracket to allow flush mounting without the chains but haven’t seen one yet.

These will replace 8 foot two bulb t12HO fixtures currently in place screwed up to the ceiling.

3 options:

1. Buy the Maxlite - Surface Mount Kit - BLHE90-SMK for $6 and hope it fits - or modify as necessary.

2. Buy the Diva Light LHB-SMB2 - 2 Feet - Surface Mount Kit for LHB LED High Bay for $15 and hope it fits - or modify as necessary.

3. Buy the 110 Watts - LED High Bay - 14410 Lumens - 250W MH Equal - 5000K - Diva Light LHB-110W-U-50K-D10 for $89.25 plus option 2 Surface Mounting Kit for $15.

 

[69XR7]

New build 22x27 garage/workshop lighting help

Hi Platonic,

I've been following this thread for a while now and really appreciate what you are doing for everyone.

Now I'm building my garage/workshop and hope you can give me some direction on lighting.

I've attached a PDF with the overall dimensions and approximate locations for the lift and workbench area.

The trusses will have a tray, so the outer band of the garage will have an 11' finished ceiling height and within the tray it will be 12'

Planning on white painted ceiling and walls - I may paint the bottom 3' a light gray gloss, but haven't decided yet. The floor will be polyaspartic in a light gray with full flake.

I'm thinking that I'd like to divide the lighting into three zones, 1 for the "lift bay", one for the left side bay and one for the remaining "workshop" area.

Thanks

 

[Platonic Solid]

Platonic - thanks for all the time you commit to this group. The pics are with half the lights installed. The rest have been installed and I am more than pleased at this point. The units are brighter than the Costco LED that are in the house garage. The lighting will change as I outfit the shop with gear, wall coverings, and some shelving. 16 Maxlight fixtures with Lumegen 5000K.

Nice job I see you made use of the side knockout.

 

[Platonic Solid]

69XR7 - I wouldn't bother with zones in a 22 x 27 space. Consider using 3-Lamp strip lights like this one: https://www.prolighting.com/commerc...ommercial-lighting/t443ssubcxx00p0-18w5k.html

 

[shaggyant]

3 options:

1. Buy the Maxlite - Surface Mount Kit - BLHE90-SMK for $6 and hope it fits - or modify as necessary.

2. Buy the Diva Light LHB-SMB2 - 2 Feet - Surface Mount Kit for LHB LED High Bay for $15 and hope it fits - or modify as necessary.

3. Buy the 110 Watts - LED High Bay - 14410 Lumens - 250W MH Equal - 5000K - Diva Light LHB-110W-U-50K-D10 for $89.25 plus option 2 Surface Mounting Kit for $15.

I’m assuming the wattage listed from these lights is the total draw of the fixture. When replacing an 8 foot 2 bulb T12HO fixture I should have over 220 watts available if I do a 1 for one swap. Do you see a reason not to bump up to a 165 watt LED fixture like this one? I am thinking more light but still lower power draw and the four foot frame will cover the existing holes in the Sheetrock. I am even pondering the 225 watt version. Do you think it’s possible for the fixtures to be too bright?

https://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/ZY-H3-165W-p/zy-h3-165w.htm?CartID=4

https://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/ZY-H3-225W-p/zy-h3-225w.htm?CartID=2

According to a reviewer on the Bees Lighting site the Diva lights are made by James Industries. The spec sheets show the same dimensions but it looks like the cheaper ones from Greentek are missing the nut-serts in the sheet metal. That’s is easy enough to do in the field assuming the holes are punched the right size. I’ll attach screen shots of both lights below.

 

[Platonic Solid]

shaggyant - How big is the hole that you're trying to cover in your sheetrock? Diva Light and Greentek are both made by James Industries. Exceeding 16400 Lumens at 16ft mounting height is not ideal unless you put them on dimmers. You'll far exceed the recommended 93fc @ workplane (depending on qty and layout - naturally).

 

[69XR7]

69XR7 - I wouldn't bother with zones in a 22 x 27 space. Consider using 3-Lamp strip lights like this one: https://www.prolighting.com/commerc...ommercial-lighting/t443ssubcxx00p0-18w5k.html

My original thought was to use 2 light LED fixtures, from the best lighting fixture thread. I figured I'd need 12-14, which if my math is correct would be
18w x 2 = 36w per fixture x 14 fixtures = 504 watts. For those times when I'm just working on the bench, I didn't want to burn up all that electricity.

Are you recommending the 3-lamp strip due to ceiling height?

 

[Platonic Solid]

69XR7 - Rather than play the inevitable 20 questions game, here are both options:

69XR7 2-Lamp 5300Lm.pdf

69XR7 3-Lamp 8000Lm.pdf

 

[69XR7]

69XR7 - Rather than play the inevitable 20 questions game, here are both options:

69XR7 2-Lamp 5300Lm.pdf

69XR7 3-Lamp 8000Lm.pdf

Sorry if I've offended you. I wasn't looking to play 20 questions, just wanted to understand. I spent the morning trying to figure out how to do this in the Dialux program without great success, so this is a big help.

Clearly the 3 bulb fixtures are the way to go.

 

[Platonic Solid]

69XR7 - You didn't offend me at all. I didn't intend to come across crass. Either layout will serve you well.

 

[grabera7]

Hello! Need some lighting layout assistance with my 24x32x14 garage. I'd prefer a clean ceiling (nothing hanging, no exposed wires). Garage will house 2 cars side by side and I'll have a workbench on the back wall. Drywall ceilings and walls painted white.

 

[grabera7]

Hello! Need some lighting layout assistance with my 24x32x14 garage. I'd prefer a clean ceiling (nothing hanging, no exposed wires). Garage will house 2 cars side by side and I'll have a workbench on the back wall. Drywall ceilings and walls painted white.

I was reading through your recommendations for smalltown using the 2x2 flush mount panels and I have to say I like that idea. I originally wanted recessed lights but was convinced otherwise.

 

[pbon]

I was going to do about 18 Lumegen 5000L 5000k 1x4 panels for about $40 each from Lightip but the surface mount kits are about $20 each, in my 23x29 with 15x6 bump out on one of the 23’ sides. I think it would have worked fine and looked good. But I went with 18 James 5000L 5000k 4’ strip lights with diffusers instead from ledlightingwholesale instead for $42 each. Plus 10 more for the 2nd floor of the garage, which is mostly storage and 23x29.

 

[grabera7]

I was going to do about 18 Lumegen 5000L 5000k 1x4 panels for about $40 each from Lightip but the surface mount kits are about $20 each, in my 23x29 with 15x6 bump out on one of the 23’ sides. I think it would have worked fine and looked good. But I went with 18 James 5000L 5000k 4’ strip lights with diffusers instead from ledlightingwholesale instead for $42 each. Plus 10 more for the 2nd floor of the garage, which is mostly storage and 23x29.

Thanks pbon. I did see the prices for the surface mount kits are a little high. I was almost considering a little DIY surface mount kit using some 1x2 pine and some drop ceiling grid. Might be cheaper?