Old logo ID markings guide

[d42jeep]

This logo has cropped up a couple of times lately and it was suggested that I post my Litton Pocket Socket set here.
-Don

Edit.… More recent and hopefully clearer pictures.

 

[Old Radar]

Reed & Prince.

Discussed in several other threads, they were the American producers of Fearson's cross recess screw drive fasteners and drivers.

 

[MR.X]

I have I guess what is an old valve wrench with what looks like a "Z" in a circle. Can't find this logo anywhere. I'm assuming it would stand for the drop forge company? The opening isn't a true square. Also has what looks like two overlapping X's. It's a mystery to me.

Hi. The "overlapping X's" are a W and an A.

 

[Provincial]

Hi. The "overlapping X's" are a W and an A.

Or an A and a V, with two little W's.

 

[PSCo1867]

I'm looking for the definitive identification of this logo: a keystone with PS inside. I'm thinking Pennsylvania Steel, but this is only a (somewhat educated) guess. Anyone? Examples here are a W&B "S" wrench and an unknown spud wrench, both stamped with the "Keystone PS" stamp.

 

[four.cycle]

in my inbox earlier this morning:

Woo-hoo! I just found a goldmine of forge mark logos .. do a google books search for 'custom forging capability' and there's a chart of companies with their logos ..
I was able to identify an HT-circle logo as Harris-Thomas Drop Forge .. never thought I'd find that one.
AA

 

[d42jeep]

I think this Thor logo is pretty self explanatory.
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

well... kind of, yes...

Independent / Independent Pneumatic Tool Co., Aurora, IL / formerly Aurora Machine & Tool, Aurora Automatic Machinery Co. / "Thor" pneumatic power tools, impact sockets / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=1985 /

better known for the rattle guns than for sockets.

 

[Eric Brown]

Oswego / Oswego Tool Co., 119-27 W. First St., Oswego, NY / "Giles Patent wrench" / patent 391957 Oct 30 1888 J.A. Giles / http://alloy-artifacts.org/other-makers-p2.html#oswego / https://www.vintagetools.net/product/oswego-tool-co-8-inch-stilson-wrench-561pc / http://toolarchives.com/node/253 /

I think I have a Oswego Tool Company wrench. The only logo is a circle with a "T" inside. A similar logo was used by Osaka Tanko. This wrench is 8" long and is also marked with matching numbers on the jaw and wrench. It features a easily removable adjuster. Simply unscrew the jaw and then the adjuster can be moved to the side and lifted out. I have a 1920 ad showing this feature on a "S" wrench. Cannot locate any straight wrenches with this feature and logo. Any thoughts on if this wrench is earlier, later, or same time as the "S" model?

 

[wrenchguy]

just put here, move to better place if u want.
pic stoled from fb.

 

[woody 73]

Keystone drop forge

Recognize this tool, or logo?

Anyone know what this is - or recognize the logo? It's 17.3 inches long. It has a keystone logo with what looks like a diamond inside. (See thumbnails).

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[woody 73]

Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co.

Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co. pliers - just found. Anyone seen a similar one?

Just found this at a junk store - quite a nicely-made pair of pliers. Great logo stamp, finely checkered handles. Hadn't heard of them previously; seems to have been a Chicago company, disappeared in the 1960s or thereabouts. Anyone have any pics of H.S.B. hand tools?

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[woody 73]

Japanese Industrial Standards logo.

Post #2 by four.cycle a good picture of that logo.

Anyone heard of Newland tools?

Has anyone heard of Newland tools? I bought this socket set in New Zealand. The only thing I can find on the net is 2 x adjustable spanners on UK ebay. Ratchet is missing.

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[four.cycle]

Japanese Industrial Standards LOGO

 

[four.cycle]

H.D. Smith & Co., Plantsville, CT

Smith / H.D. Smith & Co., 24 West St., Plantsville, CT (Henry D. Smith) / "Perfect Handle", "Gettatit" pliers / patent D33468 Oct 30 1900 & 666029 Jan 15 1901 & Amos Shepard & D34136 Feb 26 1901 & 737179 Aug 25 1903 & D37214 Nov 8 1904 William S. Ward & 793324 Jun 27 1905 Amos Shepard & 855079 May 28 1907 William S. Ward & D44327 Jul 8 1913 Lucius V. Walkley & 1061339 May 13 1913 & 1123423 Jan 5 1915 & 1216886 Feb 20 1917 & D45919 Jun 4 1919 William S. Thompson / TM 45334 Aug 15 1905 first use 1871 / http://alloy-artifacts.org/hd-smith-company.html / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/h-d-smith-company-plantsville-ct.389945/ / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._D._Smith_Company_Building /

 

[DetailSeeker]

The Trade Mark for Brown & Sharpe Tools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_&_Sharpe

An aside on this: the machinist square with B [dot] S logo appears as early as the 1905 catalog.

However, the same logo with the words "TRADE MARK" underneath first shows up (that I can find) in illustrations in the 1952 catalog. In the 1954 catalog, new illustrations of the logo with "TRADE MARK" no longer have the dot between "B" and "S".

The 1959 USPTO trademark registration, with no dot, claims a "First Use Anywhere" date of July 28, 1955.

However, the 1967 USPTO trademark registration for a version with shaded letters and no dot claims a "First Use Anywhere" of 1897. It also claims ownership of the related registration 56130, which (if you look to the registration certificate) was filed in May 18, 1905. Unfortunately, the "accompanying drawing" was not scanned, and I actually need to leave the keyboard at some point today.

Short version: logo was used since about the first of January 1897, logo with "TRADE MARK" underneath it appears to date from 1950s?

 

[Leviton]

General Tool, Portland, Oregon.

A "G.T." in a smooshed hex like the hex outline for the P&C logo.

For more info on this company, see the Thorsen thread.

 

[Leviton]

International Harvester Corporation (IHC). An I and an H inside a larger C.

 

[RTM]

This is a dental supply company. I found it once before:

SS White Dental

Unknown plier markings

I found a few needles nose pliers today with a bunch of wire gauge high speed drills and a few other very small machinists items. Is anyone familiar with the markings inside the handle on these? To me it looks like a paw with claws and a monogram with a "W" and two "S's". They are US made...

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[wrenchguy]

if i remember correctly this logo was discussed, but i haven't been able to find the posting... its stamped on a solid bar slide of a vise. thanks for any hejp.

 

[RTM]

if i remember correctly this logo was discussed, but i haven't been able to find the posting... its stamped on a solid bar slide of a vise. thanks for any hejp.

That’s usually a Pexto mark for their Worth sub brand. Check the names in this post for others who used it, see who you like for vises.

@Private Lugnutz may have clues

Ben Hur Tools?

Just found a 6" stillson pattern pipe wrench with an unfamiliar brand name thats apparently so esoteric that even garagejournal's search engine failed to shed any light on. So what's the deal? Theres got to be at least a couple of you gear heads with some Ben Hur tools in your toolbox and maybe...

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[d42jeep]

As RTM says, possibly Pexto.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

if i remember correctly this logo was discussed but i haven't been able to find the posting...

It was discussed in the Pexto thread, including here...

Peck, Stow, and Wilcox owned a bunch of TM's for various brands, including Worth (reg. 1935, first use 1914), and Boro, Iroquois, Tool Island, and - believe it or not, a giant asterisk symbol (which may solve a long-standing GJ mystery!

...and more substantively, HERE, when I found and posted the TM that Don just reposted.

As RTM alludes at the end of his post here...

That’s usually a Pexto mark for their Worth sub brand. Check the names in this post for others who used it, see who you like for vises.

@Private Lugnutz may have clues

...and his linking you to the Ben Hurs tools thread, a large asterisk was used by others, believe it or not, despite the PEXTO TM, complicating the ID.

Those are usually a little different from each other and the PEXTO version, however, with more radii, or the entire symbol is oriented (turned, if you will) so that the radii are not pointing the same directions.

Having said all that as a caution, the symbol on your vise slide sure does look PEXTO-ish.

PEXTO did sell vises. I've seen them in the back of catalogs with clamps.

 

[wrenchguy]

It was discussed in the Pexto thread, including here...

...and more substantively, HERE, when I found and posted the TM that Don just reposted.

As RTM alludes at the end of his post here...

...and his linking you to the Ben Hurs tools thread, a large asterisk was used by others, believe it or not, despite the PEXTO TM, complicating the ID.

Those are usually a little different from each other and the PEXTO version, however, with more radii, or the entire symbol is oriented (turned, if you will) so that the radii are not pointing the same directions.

Having said all that as a caution, the symbol on your vise slide sure does look PEXTO-ish.

PEXTO did sell vises. I've seen them in the back of catalogs with clamps.

thanks, i'll go with pexto using this ad posted from years back.... it shows vises and explains tm good enough for me.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

^ Perfect. Glad you followed link and saw that. I completely forgot I posted that. Oh, and nice find! Post a pic of the whole vise in the PEXTO thread when get the opportunity.

 

[Eric Brown]

^ Perfect. Glad you followed link and saw that. I completely forgot I posted that. Oh, and nice find! Post a pic of the whole vise in the PEXTO thread when get the opportunity.

I am currently doing a study on handplanes with short lever caps. There are some with the six pointed asterisk design, including:
Worth, True Value, Red Diamond, Pritzlaff and Shapleighs. All of them are oriented up except the Shapleighs. Up? i'm guessing that if you draw a line vertical (up) and the make an X across it you will have the basic shape. On the other hand if you draw the line horizontal and then make an X it would be rotated one position. Here is a picture of a Worth box that explains the asterisk.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

^ Interesting. That kind of somewhat surprising proliferation and variance in the use of the same basic symbol, not strictly unique to PEXTO, is what RTM was alluding to me having alluded to before. Other than pointing out the Ben Hur, Vlchek and SK examples, I never studied it further, though.

 

[Eric Brown]

^ Interesting. That kind of somewhat surprising proliferation and variance in the use of the same basic symbol, not strictly unique to PEXTO, is what RTM was alluding to me having alluded to before. Other than pointing out the Ben Hur, Vlchek and SK examples, I never studied it further, though.

Something else is the actual shape of the six arms. The trademark indicated they are teardrop shaped with a center dot. Some of these I've mentioned are more like rectangles. Close, but not exactly the same. what they do all have in common are six arms. A regular asterisk has five. I also noticed many of them are used on tools sold by hardware stores. Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett started a association of hardware stores in about 1932. Could they have combined orders for similar tools with only the name changed and a few other details like paint color, nickel plating, etc. specified?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

....what they do all have in common are six arms.

Might be true for the tools you are including in your study, but not overall. If you go in to the "Ben Hur" tools thread that RTM linked above, because that's the thread I kind of made fun out of the false asterisk situation, there's one with six (6) radii and one with eight (8) radii! As I commented there, whether it was a mistake or they just didn't care, and any old asterisk or star-like shape will do, I don't know.