Old logo ID markings guide

[d42jeep]

Here is one that is pretty obscure.
-Don

 

[Provincial]

Stiletto, a brand of Baker and Hamilton Hardware, of Sacramento, California. It was used on tools and cutlery. The trademark is now owned by Milwaukee Tools.

A good summary is located here:

Stiletto Tools History

Another view of the logo:

 

[d42jeep]

I posted a few Stiletto tools on your “cool logo” thread here.
-Don

I like the Stiletto logo although I don’t run across them very often.
-Don

 

[RTM]

Stiletto, a brand of Baker and Hamilton Hardware, of Sacramento, California. It was used on tools and cutlery. The trademark is now owned by Milwaukee Tools.

A good summary is located here:

Stiletto Tools History

I need to drop the site owner a note. He's missing about the first 50 years of their history, including the famous owners who started it all, then branched out to Railroads, and Land Baroning

 

[Provincial]

I need to drop the site owner a note. He's missing about the first 50 years of their history, including the famous owners who started it all, then branched out to Railroads, and Land Baroning

Why don't you put a bug in Woody's ear and start a thread on the Stiletto history? It would be a nice place to host our photos of the cool logo, and flesh out the history for posterity!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Wasn't much if not all of the history posted or linked in your 'Stiletto Hammer' thread of last year, Jock? By you, RTM, as well as 4.c? It attracted a bunch of other Stiletto tools as well, from Ed (Oregon rock crusher) and Don (d42jeep) as I recall. Now that we can edit thread titles you can make it a more centralized thread. And any additional research on the history of the brand that people find could be appended. Just an idea. Linked here.

I've yet to find one in the wild. Perhaps unsurprisingly on the right coast.

 

[d42jeep]

Here is a quick summary of what I know of the Baker Hamilton Stiletto pre-history. I will start a new thread sometime soon with a bit more of the details (Hopefully do Woody73 proud). This is mostly assembled from the UC Riverside California Digital Newspaper Collection, Google Books, and other internet sources. This may be slightly out of order, as my notes aren't real clean yet.

Here is the twisted family tree, with several parallel paths combining over time. Every time I dig up a new branch, or root, it creates a whole ton of more digging to be done. This has been mostly untouched since 2013... And, as they keep adding more articles to the CDNC and Google Books, I get more sources.

Company started as
(Marcus C Hawley moved to SF in 1849)
Hawley Bros 1852
Hawley & Co 1867
Hawley Brothers Hardware incorporated 1882
LA: Hawley Kind & Co
San Diego: Hawley & Todd

Bought by Miller Sloss Scott 4/1/99

Sloss & Co started in 1856
Sloss Bros started 1894

Miller Sloss Scott started in 1891 as a mercantile. (Charles Miller president)

Huntington and Hopkins (Collis Huntington Treasurer, Mark Hopkins)
Unknown date EH Miller added to firm. Some of those names may be familiar in this article.
1868 Charles Miller added to firm
1871 SF Branch of Huntington Hopkins & Co formed

Huntington Hopkins Co incorporated (Feb 1888) Charles Miller onboard

1894 HHC sold to Miller Sloss Scott

1901 Firms of George Gibbs (no prehistory yet) and Miller Sloss Scott consolidated, to be know as Pacific Hardware and Steel

1908 Sloss Bros sold out to Pacific Company

Baker Hamilton (no prehistory) merged with Pacific Hardware and Steel, to be known as Baker-Hamilton Pacific Company

Eventually they dropped the Pacific.

RTM had a good start here.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Agreed. And that's the thread I'm referring to and linked above. For efficiency, if Jock changed the title to something more generic, we'd be all set.

 

[four.cycle]

Filson / Henley Filson Co., North Vernon, IN / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385635 /

(photo image courtesy Private Lugnutz)

 

[four.cycle]

Plomb / (see PROTO) / http://alloy-artifacts.org/plomb-tool.htm / http://alloy-artifacts.org/plomb-tool.html#history / https://toolarchives.com/node/268 /

(photo image courtesy d42jeep)

 

[woody 73]

The Brand is Shang Gong and it is made by the Wenling Fenghua Tools based in China.

Post Story:

Needing some information today.

I never know what I will come across in my many tool searches and as it just so happens today I found a wrench that I think (key word here) is of Chinese origins but I am not sure about that? Anyhow I do not even know which is right side up or the other way around so I have taken several...

www.garagejournal.com

Company information:

ZHEJIANG POTENT TOOLS MANUFACTURE CO.,LTD

 

[d42jeep]

Here is the logo of the Irwin Auger Bit Co.
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

Goldblatt / Goldblatt Tool Co., 1910 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO / est. 1885 / specialty tools for masonry trade /

 

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Larco / Larco Wrench & Mfg. Co., 7800 Woodlawn Ave., Chicago, IL / patent 1389581 / acquired Cochran Pipe Wrench Co. 1920 / https://toolarchives.com/node/202 /

(* photo image courtesy Antique Ben *)

 

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Worth / Bigelow & Dowse, 229 Franklin St., Boston, MA / manufactured by Peck, Stow & Wilcox / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6375720 / http://fishinghistory.blogspot.com/2011/08/52-for-52-bigelow-dowse-of-boston.html /

(* photo image courtesy Username already in use *)

 

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Kastar (early) - Long Island, New York
(photo image courtesy Dave455)
Kastar now part of A & E Tool
A & E / (see Lang) / http://alloy-artifacts.org/a_e_manufacturing.html / http://alloy-artifacts.org/a_e_manufacturing.html#history / http://toolarchives.com/node/366 /



Moore Drop Forge, Springfield, MA
"M in a circle" LOGO
Moore / Moore Drop Forging Co., 336 Birnie Ave., Springfield, MA / http://alloy-artifacts.org/moore-drop-forging.html / http://alloy-artifacts.org/moore-drop-forging.html#history / http://toolarchives.com/index.php/node/236 /




PEXTO - Peck Stow & Wilcox - Southington CT
(photo image courtesy d42jeep)
Peck Stow & Wilcox / Peck Stow & Wilcox Co., Southington, CT / P.S. & W. / PEXTO / PESCO / patent 553059 / http://alloy-artifacts.org/peck-stow-wilcox.html / http://alloy-artifacts.org/peck-stow-wilcox.html#history / https://toolarchives.com/index.php/node/261 / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=2721 / https://wrenchwiki.com/peck-stow-wilcox/ /

 

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Steelcraft / Steelcraft Tool Corp., 36-50 31st St., Long Island City, NY / Spiegel Bros. Corp. (same address) / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478374 / https://books.google.com/books?id=7U66AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA2190&dq=Spiegel+Brothers /

 

[RTM]

Here is a new one to me. Swear I've seen their name pop up somewhere on here, but google is drawing a blank. Yellow screwdriver in the first pic.

HiT, Hardware Ind. Tool Co, Phila 21

Looks like it was the Hardware Industrial Tool Company, Philadelphia, now currently a redevelopment site

Hainesport getting money from state for HITCO site

HAINESPORT — The municipality has learned that it is getting more money back from the state to use at the former Hardware Industrial Tool Co. at Creek Road and Route 38. Township Administrator Leo S…

www.burlingtoncountytimes.com

Couple of patent items (Design, not in DATAMP)

USD318602S - Handle grip for a hand tool - Google Patents

Which lists then as HARDWARE & INDUSTRIAL TOOL CO., INC., ONE COMMERCE DRIVE, P.O. BOX 307, DELANCO, NJ 08075-0307

One of their properties was a redevelopment site in 2014

Hainesport getting money from state for HITCO site

HAINESPORT — The municipality has learned that it is getting more money back from the state to use at the former Hardware Industrial Tool Co. at Creek Road and Route 38. Township Administrator Leo S…

www.burlingtoncountytimes.com

Looks like there were listed in Retailing catalogs from 1985 - 88 per google books, so just barely vintage

Oops, just turned up a patent from 1968, again not in DATAMP

Official gazette of the United States Patent Office : United States. Patent Office : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Title from caption

archive.org

Sorry for the poor pic, curved chrome, stamped on a screwdriver shaft, leaning at a angle, thru a magnifier, with my phone.

 

[four.cycle]

Union / Union Tool Co., 48 E. River St., Orange, MA / screwdriver, rules, squares, gauges, etc. /

(* photo image courtesy Keep on Jeepin *)

 

[four.cycle]

Page-Storms / Page-Storms Drop Forge Co., Chicopee, MA / patent 531628 / http://alloy-artifacts.org/other-makers-p3.html#page-storms / http://toolarchives.com/node/256 /

 

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(* photo image courtesy Private Lugnutz *)

 

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Mossberg / Frank Mossberg Co., Lamb Street, Attleboro, MA. / http://alloy-artifacts.org/frank-mossberg-company.html / http://alloy-artifacts.org/frank-mossberg-company.html#history / http://toolarchives.com/index.php/node/239 / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=11693 /


Williams / J.H. Willians & Co., 38 Richards St., Brooklyn, NY / J.H. Williams Tool Group / Snap-on Industrial Brands / http://alloy-artifacts.org/williams-supercompany.html / http://alloy-artifacts.org/williams-supercompany.html#history / http://maggieblanck.com/BrooklynRedHook/Williams.html / http://toolarchives.com/node/332 /

 

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Peck Stow & Wilcox / Peck Stow & Wilcox Co., Southington, CT / P.S. & W. / PEXTO / PESCO / patent 553059 / http://alloy-artifacts.org/peck-stow-wilcox.html / http://alloy-artifacts.org/peck-stow-wilcox.html#history / https://toolarchives.com/index.php/node/261 / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgIndex/detail.aspx?id=2721 / https://wrenchwiki.com/peck-stow-wilcox/ /

(photo image courtesy Private Lugnutz)

 

[Old Radar]

Here's a logo I hope someone can identify. It is on an tool I picked up at an estate sale the other day.
It appears to me to be a pseudo-surfers cross with either a vertical line or number 1 rampant.

I'm using an image off the internet because the logo on mine is difficult to see.
My tool is shown in the thumbnails and the logo on mine is located on the other side of the tool than depicted in the internet image.

 

[four.cycle]

Dayton Electric Light Company (aka "Delco")
Delco / Delco-Light Co., Dayton, OH / Delco Light Plant / https://www.farmcollector.com/farm-shows/delco-light-plant-zmlz13janzbea / http://www.papawswrench.com/vboard/index.php?topic=7911.0 /

They also used a "D in a circle" logo on some of their tools. More Delco logos HERE:

Another CAN YOU Identify post./

The emblem is a D inside a circle on the compressor. nsi

www.garagejournal.com

 

[Old Radar]

Thanks 4.c! I don't get how Delco hoped that design would serve as name recognition for them, but what do I know?

 

[d42jeep]

This one is self explanatory but still quite rare, as it mentions Emeryville.
-Don

 

[leg17]

Thanks 4.c! I don't get how Delco hoped that design would serve as name recognition for them, but what do I know?

Possible that 'cross' mark, as well as the Circle D, were identifiers of the casting suppliers who actually made the wrenches.

 

[woody 73]

Shapleigh Diamond Edge.

A Mark of the letters...DE with a horizontal Arrow running through the letters DE.

The post story.

Vintage Ball Peen Hammer ID -- DE on top of arrow

Haven't been able to identify this hammer. Any help would be appreciated. Logo is a diamond shape filled with an arrow inside it and the letters DE on the shaft of the arrow. TRADE and MARK on either side of arrow. Thanks.

www.garagejournal.com

 

[woody 73]

The letters GTW = Germantown Tool Works.

The poist story with some information for you.

Germantown Tool Works

As first reported in the 2018 Garage Sale thread, I found a primitive 4-oz ball pein with an original handle today at the flea market. Couldn't read the marking ("GERMANTOWN") until I got home and de-rusted it. It's the first Germantown Tool Works tool I have ever found. I searched GJ, and I...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[wrenchguy]

Here's a logo I hope someone can identify. It is on an tool I picked up at an estate sale the other day.
It appears to me to be a pseudo-surfers cross with either a vertical line or number 1 rampant.

I'm using an image off the internet because the logo on mine is difficult to see.
My tool is shown in the thumbnails and the logo on mine is located on the other side of the tool than depicted in the internet image.

From my Implement wrench days it reminds me of Milwaukee Harvester. Maybe post on tooltalk, a few farm tool guys over there.

 

[woody 73]

It would appear that the consensus of a triangle followed up with the words Forged steel USA are the coming from the Harrold tool Co.

The post in question:

Pair of longnose ID?

For the life of me I cannot find the trademark or company name or anything about these long nose pliars. I've gotta say, these feel so good in my hand. Whoever is the maker they did an excellent job on them.

www.garagejournal.com

 

[woody 73]

The Letters M.T.D. & M.C. are made by the following Company.

Morse Twist Drill & Machine Company; the post story in question:

Rectangular tap wrench ID made - Morse Twist Drill & Machine Co.

Hi, Picked this up at an estate sale yesterday. Marked “M.T. D??M Co. PAT. FEB. 23”. “O", "28” & “A28” on the blocks, “28” on handle. Any ideas? Thanks!

www.garagejournal.com

 

[woody 73]

A very special 1/4 ratchet that we sometimes come across on the GJ that is made by the following company G.M. Co. Mfg. Inc.

The post story in question:

Help Identifying This Ratchet

Wondering if someone has seen one of these before - No markings on it that I could find. 1/4" with side button for direction change, similiar to the old SK "Frankenstein" ratchet design. Seems to be nicely made.

www.garagejournal.com

 

[four.cycle]

^ I have been holding off on posting any more logos in this thread until I can devise a means to make it more user-friendly.
Currently it's kind of a mish-mash and requires a person to scroll through no fewer than five pages. It's not working as it is, or we wouldn't see questions on the same logos over and over.
I posted everything I have in the "Morse" thread.
That "Harrold" one still puzzles me. I'd want to see another example before I chiseled that one in stone, particularly after running into an "HHC" logo earlier which looked surprisingly similar. (Heavy Hardware Company)
The rather enigmatic G.M. Mfg. Co. ratchet had everybody here stumped until I started grabbing screen shots of every one I saw here and on Ebay and doing some comparisons (and buying a few myself.) Gerald wrote up an article on G.M. on his "Progress is Fine" website, but people are going to be asking "What is this thing?" about that one until Hell freezes over, I think. It's just too weird and there is still a glut of them in the second-hand market. I see them all the time listed on Ebay at ridiculous prices.

Current file count in the "LOGO-dump" folder: 151 files (that's how many have accumulated since I last posted any logos in this thread.)

Focusing currently on getting the list "completed" with the entries from Europe and Asia. Ran into another batch of stuff yesterday that I'm still sorting through... I would never have imagined there could be so many varieties of "hoof nippers" and "hog tools".

 

[d42jeep]

Here is the Vlchek Flying V logo on a #2 Phillips screwdriver.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I have been holding off on posting any more logos in this thread until I can devise a means to make it more user-friendly.

If by "more user-friendly" you mean something other than a random mess, A-Z is the only approach.

One solution would be to start a new 'Logos and TM's Guide' thread organized like your A-Z Mfgr's thread, where you control the first 20+ posts. Everything after that would be queries ("What is this logo?" "Help please, I can't seem to find this TM anywhere") or new entry recommendations. GJ'er (or non GJ'ers) who have found a tool with an unknown logo could page through the thread alphabetically looking for it. Let's say someone finds an ignition wrench with a "GB" logo on it. They go to the thread and scroll to the G section to look for it and they find it under Gilfillan Brothers. Logos that are symbols with no words or letters (e.g., Buffum ********) might have to have double entries, one under the word describing the symbol (the Buffum ******** would be found under S, for example, 'see Buffum'), and one under the Mfgr's name (Buffum). Another example might be a wrench with a large 4 and the image of a scythe on it. They go to the thread and the numerical entries preceding A and see Forsythe's logo under 4.

It would be a monumental task, but I still think the ideal solution would be for you to add logos and trademarks to your A-Z Mfgrs' list. It is already organized alphabetically. This thread here (Woody's thread) could serve as the queries and suggestions thread.

 

[four.cycle]

^ that's a different idea!

I have to think about that one.

I've back-burnered "logo" until I can get kinda-sorta done with list (most recent update here ). I'm still working in entries from little notepad *.txt files that have accumulated over the last year that are scattered in different folders.
(Also at the same time trying to add in English, Australian, German, Spanish, and other offshore makers.)

I have to think it through, but that might well be the way to go, as it would allow future edits and additions.

And yes, stuff like Gilfillan and Forsyth and Buffum (among others) pose challenges.

 

[RTM]

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One solution would be to start a new 'Logos and TM's Guide' thread organized like your A-Z Mfgr's thread, where you control the first 20+ posts. Everything after that would be queries ("What is this logo?" "Help please, I can't seem to find this TM anywhere") or new entry recommendations. GJ'er (or non GJ'ers) who have found a tool with an unknown logo could page through the thread alphabetically looking for it.

Here is a thread on old handsaw medallions, organized in a similar way to what Lugz is suggesting. very picture heavy. Great reference.

Saw Medallion Reference Guide

www.lumberjocks.com